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Person99
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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Location: Flower Mound, TX
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| CRT_Ben wrote: | | Phil Smith wrote: | | jingrjackey was just venting, that he had no intention of actually doing such a thing. |
How can you say that? None of us would have written what he wrote, for good reason (we're sane). There's truth behind every joke, and every word spoken, even in anger. I never would have written those words because they never would have crossed my mind...he had to think of them, and then decide it was a good idea to write them down   |
I was with you to the end. When your angry, you don't reflect on things and "decide it [is] a good idea". That is completely counter to how information processing occurs when you are angry.
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erikjohn
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
Posts: 636
Location: Florida
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| CZ Eddie wrote: | Guys,
I won't use this opportunity to add more CJ bashing, because enough was done in the very first post on this thread.
Let me simplify my stance by stating that I cringe whenever forced to do business with CJ. And I groan whenever he says he's going to invent this, do that, show us something, etc.
But the guy has never given me the impression of being a thief (chief, as per this thread).
I would suggest that someone who is actually friends with the guy, call him up on his phone or talk to his parents whom he was living with and ask if he is OK. For all we know, he might be in a hospital.
Or he's just really, really slacking off like I assume is the case.
The last thread regarding him was closed due to a similar nature as this one. But the buyer in that case stated that after posting the thread about CJ, that he was finally contacted. I'm sure that will be the case again. |
Eddie I think you nailed here and we have had this conversation privately before beacaue I have delt with Chris and even met him face to face. I used to have his phone number and I can not find it. He is extremely s l o w at shipping stuff out which is why due to proximity last time I delt with him I just went to his house.
Now jingrjackey, I have a Red Lug that I would be willing to part with it for a small fee. PM me if you are unabe to resolve your issue with Chris and still need a tube.
He had a bunch of cases that he sold. a few months back. Anyone know how that went?
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Phil Smith
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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CRT_Ben
Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Posts: 1684
Location: Northern Virginia
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Person99 wrote: | | CRT_Ben wrote: | | Phil Smith wrote: | | jingrjackey was just venting, that he had no intention of actually doing such a thing. |
How can you say that? None of us would have written what he wrote, for good reason (we're sane). There's truth behind every joke, and every word spoken, even in anger. I never would have written those words because they never would have crossed my mind...he had to think of them, and then decide it was a good idea to write them down |
I was with you to the end. When your angry, you don't reflect on things and "decide it [is] a good idea". That is completely counter to how information processing occurs when you are angry. |
That is true, and I may someday experience such blind anger. But never over $120!!
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Phil Smith
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| dculberson wrote: | | phil smith wrote: |
As far as jingrjackey is concerned, I think you guys are letting a poor choice of words, said in the heat of the moment, overshadow the core of this thread--CJ ripping the guy off. We've all chosen what to focus on. Most of you the rant. Dave, I and a few others on the business transaction.
(and in another post)
Both of you know jingrjackey was just venting, that he had no intention of actually doing such a thing.
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How is the $120 ripoff the core of the issue to me? It isn't. It's good information, to be sure. And I don't know he didn't mean it - I don't know the guy from Jack or sh*t.
Words have weight, and your choice of words do matter, no matter what the circumstances. If you chose the wrong words, you cause yourself problems. Try threatening to rape the police officer's wife the next time you get a speeding ticket and you'll find out what I mean.
In the meantime, it's obvious that you choose to protect some jerkoff's right to rant over his $120 more than our right to tell him he's out of line. So be it - no skin off my back. But I'd be here, doing my part, if he said the same thing to/about you/your family. |
| CRT_Ben wrote: | | Phil Smith wrote: | | jingrjackey was just venting, that he had no intention of actually doing such a thing. |
How can you say that? None of us would have written what he wrote, for good reason (we're sane). There's truth behind every joke, and every word spoken, even in anger. I never would have written those words because they never would have crossed my mind...he had to think of them, and then decide it was a good idea to write them down |
You guys make good points. Very few people would choose to go off like jingrjackey did. Everyone's seen me go off on countless occasions, and I've never said anything remotely that offensive.
I'm going to let you guys debate the rant. I'm going to stick with the transaction, the joy of doing business with CJ. Some, maybe most, have been lucky only to suffer a long delay. Others--not so lucky.
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CZ Eddie
Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Posts: 1601
Location: Austin, TX
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| Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Ben, that is absoulte bull!
I never ever think before I type!
doh!
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Willie
Joined: 13 May 2006
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Location: Green Bay
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:08 am Post subject: |
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| Phil Smith wrote: |
I don't disagree with you Matt, and I personally wouldn't never say anything like that. But you and others let jingrjackey's ill advised venting overshadow the fact that CJ ripped him off, which is even more offensive to me. |
Phil,
I would guess you have never experienced having a family member raped or killed; if you had, I am pretty sure being bilked out of $120 would not register on your offended meter next to jingrjackey's words.
There are those reading this forum who have those experiences. I would expect that some of them would never return to this forum had they read the unedited version of the original post. Kudos to Curt for editing it.
The original posters words are patently offensive and should be recognized as such. They are the words of a bully; not merely someone who is upset. People who will use such language and issue what is in reality a veiled threat often act out their "wishes". The original poster goes well beyond civility. It is very serious stuff, and should not be taken lightly.
If ever there was a reason to ban anyone from a forum dedicated to a hobby such as home theater and CRT projectors, it is jingrjackey's offensive rant; IMO it was immature. abrasive, and offensive, and has no business in this forum.
Willie
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Phil Smith
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:38 am Post subject: |
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Willie,
I'm not saying what jingrjackey said isn't offensive, I'm just not putting the weight in his words that most of you are. That's not how I would vent if I was angry, but it might be how jingrjackey does. I'm not going to tag him a rapist and serial killer for saying something in the heat of the moment.
As far as being insensitive, what he said definitely is. Am I going to hold his feet to the fire over it? No I'm not.
Can I bow out of this debate? I'd much prefer to talk smack about CJ. 
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CZ Eddie
Joined: 23 Mar 2006
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Location: Austin, TX
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| erikjohn wrote: |
He had a bunch of cases that he sold. a few months back. Anyone know how that went? |
At least a couple of guys, including myself, got their cases fairly quickly. But not all parts were as described.
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jask
Joined: 17 Mar 2006
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Location: kamloops BC
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:32 am Post subject: |
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I think the forum is a great place to publicly flame anyone who abuses our community,be it heavy handed mods,wanna be rock stars, or people that just plain have a problem doing what they agreed to (-AFTER they take the money-) and not responding to e-mails etc...
The OP may not be a native english speaker,but the point is made and I would guess that a large number of people on this forum knew nothing of Chris and his history...
How long would this thread have lasted on the old forum?
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blagosaurous
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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It sucks getting burnt. I also agree that your wording was probably inappropriate but thats your issue - not mine. Just be careful in the future, you may find yourself losing out even MORE money if you were charged with assault.
Legal issues aside, please look up your records about this guy and gather any information about him at all. I would suggest filing a police report in his locality if you know where he lives.
Send him a letter (a nice one - asking about your product and when you should expect it) and be sure to send it certified mail or with tracking and signature confirmation for proof that he recieved it.
If your issue isn't so much with the money but the prinicipal of the concept that he's scamming people, you should consider hiring a proxy server to hand him his supeona to show up in small claims court for your money. This might be something you can add in your letter as a "threat".
You don't need the proxy server to give out the letter (the cops will do it for free) but they will MAKE SURE he gets it if you have no luck with the police.
I feel the need to reiterate this point DO NOT THREATEN HIM OR HIS FAMILY - "threatening" with small claims court is fine. As an added bonus, since this is most likely out of state commerce, he'll be forced to drive to your state just to appear at court. That would be enough of a hassle for 90% of people to just pay up..
1 more issue - if you paid using paypal or some sort of escrow, that would be another option to look into.
Make copies of the letters you send. Consider getting them notarized even. Anything you can do to make it appear that you've done anything in your power. If you don't know a notary or don't want to pay for one, get multiple signatures - your SO, neighbor, ect.
Print out any communications you have had with him and print a copy of your bank statement and checks or whatever you used to pay him with. Request tracking numbers from him if he says he's already sent goods. DOCUMENT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT
Best of luck and F*** scammers
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JustGreg
Joined: 07 Mar 2006
Posts: 3098
Location: Kenosha, WI
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Not to keep this going any longer that it already has because IMO it should have died shortly after birth...but I would have thought jackinthebox would have replied by now. 50 replies to his post so far, 2 days later, and not a peep. I don't know what more I would expect him to say, but hearing him say anything additional would be entertaining to say the least.
I don't think he's from the North American continent so filing anything legal is probably not going to happen. I base his locale on pure conjecture due to his use of Engrish. Then again, I could be way off and the truth is he's local and so pissed his writing came across apoplectic rapidly approaching embolism status.
I definately sympathize with him; nobody tolerates getting got very well.
Hindsight being what it is, IMO he should have used his first posts to this forum (and at AVS) to ask about the seller before entering into a transaction. Hopefully CJ is just his usual slow shipping self and jacko will get what he paid for. If he's going to continue making purchases on the web, he better get educated the easy way; not like this.
Greg
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Phil Smith
Joined: 08 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| JustGreg wrote: | | Hopefully CJ is just his usual slow shipping self and jacko will get what he paid for. If he's going to continue making purchases on the web, he better get educated the easy way; not like this. |
Looks like you're not following your own advice Greg. Two months of unanswered e-mails and not receiving the merchandise, might just be due to CJ being his usual slow shipping self?  Back to class Greg! 
You guys are loser enablers! The most f*ck*** up people can pull the most f*ck*** up sh*t, and a good portion of the forum will make excuses for them.
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dculberson
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Jeez, Phil, come off it.
(Definition of "it" in this case: jumping to conclusions, overreacting to Greg, generalizing single post to all members.)
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Phil Smith
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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jumping to conclusions
Logical conclusions.
overreacting to Greg
See the winky face. Embrace the winky face. Become one with the winky face.
generalizing single post to all members.
Not all, just most.
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Person99
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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Location: Flower Mound, TX
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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I think Phil's point is simple:
How many people have to complain about CJ's business practices before people stop cutting him slack and making excuses? Given the number of complaints we've seen about CJ, it seems that number is VERY high. 
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Chuchuf
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Person99 wrote: | I think Phil's point is simple:
How many people have to complain about CJ's business practices before people stop cutting him slack and making excuses? Given the number of complaints we've seen about CJ, it seems that number is VERY high. |
Amen.
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Willie
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Location: Green Bay
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Phil Smith wrote: |
Can I bow out of this debate? I'd much prefer to talk smack about CJ. |
Permission granted
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jingrjackey
Joined: 25 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:24 am Post subject: Re: cmjohnson(Chris Johnson) is a swindler and chief,P19LUG |
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Guys,thank you very much!
Everything that I tell you is fact.My eBay ID is Jingrjacky,and the same ID of auidogon,you will find I have very nice feedback.
I cost more than $20000 on Web shopping every year,this is the second time that the seller play a trick on me.I hate and was angry for CJ's dishonesty,not for the $120.I was waiting for the red tube for my Barco 1209s,but he delayed my time.I had no choice but to buy another tube on Videogon last week.
I hope you will understand my intensive experience of CJ's swindle.
I am sorry that I say something about his family.
I tell the truth here,just hope you won't be the next victim.
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Phil Smith
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Person99 wrote: | I think Phil's point is simple:
How many people have to complain about CJ's business practices before people stop cutting him slack and making excuses? Given the number of complaints we've seen about CJ, it seems that number is VERY high. |
Well put!
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