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Marquee 9500 Failed the drop test :(
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Joust



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Location: Almonte, Ontario, Canada

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject:

drice1234 wrote:
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Now I need to find a local shop that will assess the damage and provide a repair quote for the insurance company.


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Chris is in Ottawa Ontario, Curt is in Surrey BC. a difference of 4800Km. a generous maximum average speed limit of 90km/h = 6.66 days (8hours) of driving.
hardly falls under the category of Local. They are both in Canada though. Smile

Perhaps Curt can contribute as a known expert from the pictures though. Thats not a bad idea if the insurance adjuster needs a shove in the right direction.
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Tim in Phoenix



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject:

Elaine Benes wrote:

Your insurance is there EXACTLY for this kind of thing.

You do NOT want an assessment of "repairable", because your exact projector is still being manufactured by VDC.

If it is deemed NOT repairable, the insurance company cannot argue with an exact replacement; get ready to receive your brand new VDC 9500LC.

Also, if you demand repair to the condition it was before the accident(ie. brand new tubes, brand new replacement boards for the glycol damage/exposure, etc.) it will cost MORE to repair it than to replace it. Have you ever checked the cost of actual, brand new replacement parts for these things ?



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madpoet



Joined: 30 Mar 2006
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject:

When my Ampro flooded, I tried getting an insurance claim for it. It turned out to be a total nightmare, and completely worthless for me in the end sadly. I hope your insurance company treats you better than mine did.
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JustGreg



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject:

Why is it always the good that die young. Crying or Very sad
Good news bout the insurance tho!!! Who's your insurance company? I got nothing but grief from Kemper when I filed for wind damage to my roof years ago....like I had something to do with controlling the weather.

Best of luck!

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CZ Eddie



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject:

nuttall_chris wrote:
So there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.

I spoke with my insurance company and it looks like all those crazy high insurance premiums that I've been paying for all of these years may actually pay off. It appears that my policy covers accidental damage to the contents of my home. I will be required to pay my $500 deductable and I will loose my claims free status discount (10%) for the next three years.

Now I need to find a local shop that will assess the damage and provide a repair quote for the insurance company.

Chris.


CHRIS!!!!!!

I'm so sorry to read this. I perked up though at the mention of Insurance.

If it hasn't been said already, then you may know that Tim from www.etechvideo.com is a licensed retailer of the Marquee line. You may want to call or email him and ask for a replacement quote.

Could be that a refurbished Ultra 9500LC with brand new tubes and www.etechvideo.com reliability is in your future and all you have to do is pay $500 + 10% of your premiums for the next three years.

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kal
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject:

Elaine Benes wrote:
Your insurance is there EXACTLY for this kind of thing.

You do NOT want an assessment of "repairable", because your exact projector is still being manufactured by VDC.

If it is deemed NOT repairable, the insurance company cannot argue with an exact replacement; get ready to receive your brand new VDC 9500LC.

Methinks a lot of people are going to start dropping their 9500LC's with worn tubes very soon.... Smile

CZ Eddie wrote:
Could be that a refurbished Ultra 9500LC with brand new tubes and www.etechvideo.com reliability is in your future and all you have to do is pay $500 + 10% of your premiums for the next three years.


... and this thread may go from "That sucks!" to "YOU suck" quicker than I thought!

Kal

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Joust



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject:

kal wrote:
Elaine Benes wrote:
Your insurance is there EXACTLY for this kind of thing.

You do NOT want an assessment of "repairable", because your exact projector is still being manufactured by VDC.

If it is deemed NOT repairable, the insurance company cannot argue with an exact replacement; get ready to receive your brand new VDC 9500LC.

Methinks a lot of people are going to start dropping their 9500LC's with worn tubes very soon.... Smile

CZ Eddie wrote:
Could be that a refurbished Ultra 9500LC with brand new tubes and www.etechvideo.com reliability is in your future and all you have to do is pay $500 + 10% of your premiums for the next three years.


... and this thread may go from "That sucks!" to "YOU suck" quicker than I thought!

Kal

KAL!!!! Shocked
I'm shocked at that suggestion. You would comit fraud like that for a new projector?
Tell you what, I'll come over and have a look at your mount. I think it looks loose from here. It 'might' just fall down onto the floor from above there. Wink
You can come and check mine out Wink
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zaphod



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject:

yep, i tore the cantilever and needle off a shinon red boron cartridge back in 91 or so. i was tired, didn't get anything out of the music so picked up the tonearm, missed and the bouncing killed the cartridge.

after several "it cost HOW MUCH" conversations and a note from the dealer confirming the price (and receipts, and, and...) i got replacement value of $1200.

but when water leaked in a few years back and cost me $800 in repairs i got nothing. insurance is strange.

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nuttall_chris



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject:

Wow this thread seems to be taking a bit of a turn for the worse.

I guess I should make it clear that my busted Marquee 9500 was in mint condition and there would be no motivation to "drop" it on purpose. I was rock sold and the tubes were perfect and sharp. It may not be an "Ultra" but for home theatre purposes there are few to no advantages.

I am going to due as Curt suggested and clean all the boards with alcohol and try to recover as much as possible. I only contacted the insurance company as I know that the tubes are destroyed and I don't have the $$$ to replace them right now.

I look at insurance fraud as a serious offence as it drives up the premiums that we all pay and in the long run costs us a lot more than any projector.

Chris.
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Elaine Benes



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject:

nuttall_chris wrote:
Wow this thread seems to be taking a bit of a turn for the worse.

I guess I should make it clear that my busted Marquee 9500 was in mint condition and there would be no motivation to "drop" it on purpose. I was rock sold and the tubes were perfect and sharp. It may not be an "Ultra" but for home theatre purposes there are few to no advantages.

I am going to due as Curt suggested and clean all the boards with alcohol and try to recover as much as possible. I only contacted the insurance company as I know that the tubes are destroyed and I don't have the $$$ to replace them right now.

I look at insurance fraud as a serious offence as it drives up the premiums that we all pay and in the long run costs us a lot more than any projector.

Chris.


There is no suggestion of fraud whatsoever in the validity of your claim, none whatsoever.

It is EXACTLY why you've been paying premiums for years.
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zaphod



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject:

nuttall_chris wrote:
Wow this thread seems to be taking a bit of a turn for the worse.

I guess I should make it clear that my busted Marquee 9500 was in mint condition and there would be no motivation to "drop" it on purpose. I was rock sold and the tubes were perfect and sharp. It may not be an "Ultra" but for home theatre purposes there are few to no advantages.

I am going to due as Curt suggested and clean all the boards with alcohol and try to recover as much as possible. I only contacted the insurance company as I know that the tubes are destroyed and I don't have the $$$ to replace them right now.

I look at insurance fraud as a serious offence as it drives up the premiums that we all pay and in the long run costs us a lot more than any projector.

Chris.



i don't think that anyone here is seriously suggesting fraud - just joking about the temptation to have an "accident".

just like i don't think you are seriously calling into question my using insurance to replace my cartridge after what was an honest accident.

or are you?
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject:

Elaine Benes wrote:
I told my insurance broker I had gotten it from a yard sale, etc., he said it made no difference since I had "replacement cost" insurance; said it didn't matter what it COST, only what it cost to REPLACE it...


But you have to ask for replacement cost insurance. It is a much higher premium than regular insurance. They have two levels,one for replacement cost of the house and a separate one for replacement cost of contents. The replacement cost of the house is almost always suggested by the agent. The contents sometimes is not. If you do not have replacement then it will be depreciated cost.

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nuttall_chris



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject:

zaphod wrote:
nuttall_chris wrote:
Wow this thread seems to be taking a bit of a turn for the worse.

I guess I should make it clear that my busted Marquee 9500 was in mint condition and there would be no motivation to "drop" it on purpose. I was rock sold and the tubes were perfect and sharp. It may not be an "Ultra" but for home theatre purposes there are few to no advantages.

I am going to due as Curt suggested and clean all the boards with alcohol and try to recover as much as possible. I only contacted the insurance company as I know that the tubes are destroyed and I don't have the $$$ to replace them right now.

I look at insurance fraud as a serious offence as it drives up the premiums that we all pay and in the long run costs us a lot more than any projector.

Chris.



i don't think that anyone here is seriously suggesting fraud - just joking about the temptation to have an "accident".

just like i don't think you are seriously calling into question my using insurance to replace my cartridge after what was an honest accident.

or are you?




Sorry if I came across a little harsh with my last post. I just don't want my insurance company to be poking around on the net an come across some post which might question the validity of my claim.

I appreciate all the comments from everyone on the forum. I have sent Tim an email requesting pricing info as no doubt my insurance company will be looking for that info. Hopefully my insurance company will follow through and I'll be back up an running sooner than later.

Chris.
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nuttall_chris



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject:

papalek wrote:
Elaine Benes wrote:
I told my insurance broker I had gotten it from a yard sale, etc., he said it made no difference since I had "replacement cost" insurance; said it didn't matter what it COST, only what it cost to REPLACE it...


But you have to ask for replacement cost insurance. It is a much higher premium than regular insurance. They have two levels,one for replacement cost of the house and a separate one for replacement cost of contents. The replacement cost of the house is almost always suggested by the agent. The contents sometimes is not. If you do not have replacement then it will be depreciated cost.


I have replacement cost for the house and contents with no depreciation.

Chris.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:15 pm    Post subject:

Hi Chris,

I'd almost be crying too if my 1200x dropped to the floor and looked like that. Let's hope the insurance comes through, so who are you with.

Kal, yes that could be a way to get new tubes in the future, hmmm better check my policy. Course my pj has less than 2k hrs so it has some viewing time left.

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CZ Eddie



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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:17 pm    Post subject:

nuttall_chris wrote:
It may not be an "Ultra" but for home theatre purposes there are few to no advantages..


Absolutely incorrect. Neutral

mp20748 wrote:

They have substantial technical changes over the standard Marquee. The Ultra has four boards (not including the main PCB) that are re-designed specifically for the Ultra's. According to my tech stuff, they are:

HDM (260303-09P iss2) Horizontal Deflection Module.
FG (260354-02P iss2) Focus / Geometry Module.
Stig (260310-02P iss2) Stigmator Module.
DPB (250356-01P iss1) Deflection Processor Module.


And Mike didn't even mention the upgraded HVPS & LVPS components.

It may not be a huge visual difference, like going from an 8500LC to a 9500LC, but if home theater is after getting the most detailed, highest quality image possible, then YES.... the Ultra 9500LC does offer advantages over an older 9500LC!

And don't forget about the higher bandwidth that comes with an Ultra 9500LC (and 8500). If you're going to play with 1080P, then you will notice the difference!

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject:

WTS wrote:
Hi Chris,

I'd almost be crying too if my 1200x dropped to the floor and looked like that. Let's hope the insurance comes through, so who are you with.

Kal, yes that could be a way to get new tubes in the future, hmmm better check my policy. Course my pj has less than 2k hrs so it has some viewing time left.


I'm with the Co-Operators Insurance Group

Chris.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject:

papalek wrote:

But you have to ask for replacement cost insurance. It is a much higher premium than regular insurance. They have two levels,one for replacement cost of the house and a separate one for replacement cost of contents. The replacement cost of the house is almost always suggested by the agent. The contents sometimes is not. If you do not have replacement then it will be depreciated cost.



Which is why I suggested Tim at etech, since he also deals in refurbished units at lower than new prices. But it looks like Chris is set with a no-depreciation plan. I didn't even know there was such a thing. Thumbs Up

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject:

zaphod wrote:
i don't think that anyone here is seriously suggesting fraud - just joking about the temptation to have an "accident".

Exactly. Your 9500lc was an accident... was just thinking that some people may be tempted to 'accidentically drop' their 9500lc's with worn tubes. Smile

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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject:

Nahh, the CRT crowd is 99% honest from my experience. Smile


Not like those freakin digital guys who are always trying to do things the easy way. Laughing Wink

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