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**Curt Palme** · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject:

OK, so you guys are all good on these docs to be posted on the site? I need to write the convergence one, then I'll consider these to be complete...

Curt

hansilili · Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 302 Location: Köln, Germany

Currently doing my first setup of a 6PGxtra (only 342h and as new optical appearance of the internals) and had a look at your doc about a day too late. What I like very much is the comments like

"Additional disclaimer: ... these do normally not need adjusting..."

because I kinda get confused about what you should do, what can be done and what you better should not do. (Shouldn't have started reading this community stuff in the first place)

On some other board you stated not to be too specific in some settings because this is your company knowhow. Also you don't advise homemade mods but try to stick to the factory design. I think it would be worthwhile mentioning that in the Disclaimer.

It is good that you sometimes quote other widely spread advice and comment if you agree or not. You could do it more often. I could also understand if you only want to install good working projectors rather than convert some other "experts" opinions.

Appreciate quantitative statements over vage ones when appropriate. E.g. "Usually I find that the left and right edge focus need to be high on the positive side, something between +50 and +90. " is better then nothing and much better than "you can carefully adjust the x trimpot on the y-board"

Finally I should wait for the PG doc to be posted but I just can't keep my shabby fingers of this toy Mr. Green

Thousand thanks to you and your team for the company philosophy and sleepless nights.
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Mark_A_W · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject:

There already is a PG setup guide on this site. Tinman and Feathers wrote it. Tinman is Marc, I dunno who Feathers is, he disappeared years ago.

Tinman · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:30 pm Post subject:

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:14 am Post subject:

With the setup stuff, I'm not really hiding anything. Your settings will vary, they vary from set to set, so saying something like 'focus should be +80 on the left and right side. I'm accumulating these articles from memory, the sets that are in the shop now and corrections by others here.

I think most people here would agree, those that will tweak stuff they shouldn't will do so regardless of any warning. THey then come back, tail between their legs going 'ummm, can someone help, I played with stuff I shouldn't have'.

or

'you sold me a projector that doesn't work. Fix it. Now. I know I bought it 2 years ago, I just got around to installing it yesterday'.

<grin>

(I don't think I've ever had that call or email before... Smile

)

Actually, the main reason I wrote is to try and reduce as many emails and tech support calls as I can. Everyone agrees the NEC manual stinks. My writeup with more color pictures should be better, but probably not perfect.

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:40 am Post subject:

Here's the convergence document. Yes, I forgot about the sub linearity controls, revisions coming on the weekend.. Sad

Mark_A_W · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject:

You almost need a second chapter - Linearity Balance, Line Distortion, Coarse/Medium/Fine Point...etc..

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Tinman · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject:

acrawley · Joined: 20 Jun 2006 Posts: 18 Location: Redmond, WA

The really great part of this (for me) is all the little side notes. For instance, how it's OK for Keystone to require a large setting to get straight sides, and that it's OK to have to crank the side focus way up. I'd always heard that turning any of the settings up past +/-20% or so put a lot of stress on the electronics, so I was rather worried about the fact that I had to go higher than that to get a well-converged picture.

I think that this is the real value of such a document. Most of the rest you can get from reading the manual (although for NECs, that's a bit of a test of linguistic gymnastics), but information like that can only come from years of experience.

Thanks!

Mark_A_W · Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:56 am Post subject:

Curt, you call Pincushion "Bow" in the doc.

Also, do you want to mention turning the Deflection Yokes to minimise TILT?

NateTTU · Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 297

Hey Curt,

How is the document coming along? I'll be needing this soon when I start to setup my new XG 1101LC. Are there any major points missing in this current rev. that I should know about? I only setup my original XG once so I'm still a newbie at this.

Barry · Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 186 Location: Los Gatos , Ca.

Fresh eyes always have questions:

NateTTU · Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 297

You definately should zero out the setup prior to the inital one done by yourself. I would guess do it again for the next one that way you will get the chance to touch every control when you go back through setup hopefully improving everything. I'll probably set mine up 3 times and zero out everything each time.

Jesse S · Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 209 Location: Etobicoke

Thanks Curt. I know my PG inside/out but your docs have lots of good tips for setting up my new XG.

NateTTU · Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 297

Curt,

I know your a very busy and important man Thumbs Up

, but have you gotten a chance to do any of the changes to this document? I'm looking to begin round one setup on my XG and this document is a great place for me to start, just want to make sure I won't miss anything major. Thanks!

Nate

nautikal · Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 116 Location: Rockville, MD

Wow... I just found this. Curt, you should really get this posted on the site! Get Kal on it!

dbaisey · Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:22 am Post subject:

You guys with PGs dont forget to look over the PG set up guide that Marc wrote. Doug
http://www.curtpalme.com/NECPG_MechSetup1.shtm

Also take this into account before deleting entries. https://www.curtpalme.com/forum_archived/viewtopic.php@t=6744.html

dc_pilgrim · Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 225 Location: PA

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:37 am Post subject:

It's my fault, I have not been motivated to do much on the site for some reason. AS luck has it, I have an XGLC on the bench now to take the last of the linearity balance and coarse/med/fine point convergence. I'll check out the other links above next week when I get back from out of town, and will get this thing up on the main site.