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R7627165 EHT compatibility with 1209/sE
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alb_qwerti



Joined: 30 Sep 2008
Posts: 54
Location: Italy

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 9:25 am    Post subject:

Hi, maybe I've not understand correctly the two test points.

I measured with a multimeter between the core and the mesh of the feedback cable.

A great spark and the HT gone away!

Fortunately re-switching the tubes light up again.
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Hulio



Joined: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 494
Location: Belgium

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:15 am    Post subject:

No, no. You put the positive (red) probe on the core and the negative (black) grounding probe on the metal chassis of the projector.
And do that before starting the projector. You might solder an extension wire from the core solder point.
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alb_qwerti



Joined: 30 Sep 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:49 am    Post subject:

OK, I made the test.

The tension rised slowly until 26v and then another spark.
This is a too difficult test with my equipment.

I ask to the forum if someone in Europe have a tested splitter R762718

Thanks,
Alberto
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alb_qwerti



Joined: 30 Sep 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:17 pm    Post subject:

Hello Hulio,

Now I have another splitter but I think that the last test on the splitter voltage made a big damage.

The green tube does not light on, with the EHT red led.
If I remove the green HT lead from the splitter the set is ok.

How to check for sure if the green tube is shorted?
Is it possible that with the test voltage to measure 34,7 volt finally shorted the tube ?

Thanks,
Alberto
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Hulio



Joined: 15 Apr 2006
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Location: Belgium

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:21 pm    Post subject:

Hello Alberto,

Hard to say if the spark killed the tube, or the excess of HV ( due to that melted potentiometer on the splitter ).
But indeed, removing a tube's connection with the splitter after a red led on the EHT, if the projector starts up normally with the other two, indicates that the disconnected tube is shorted (or lost his vacuum).
Does the green tube have that orange glow at the end of the neck ?
Without trying the tube in another projector, is hard to say if the tube is shorted. You could try to swap HV inputs on the splitter ( use the "OUT" of red or blue tube ) ?
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alb_qwerti



Joined: 30 Sep 2008
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:08 am    Post subject:

Hi,

The end of the tube make a blu spark and than put the EHT on protection mode.
No orange glow on the green tube.
If I change the leads has the same behaviour, always the green is dead.
If I disconnect the lead from the splitter the pj start normally without green.

But what mean exactly a shorted tube? Is dead, not repairable?
What happened inside?
I don't think that it lost his vacuum but probably that spark during the voltage test.

Anuway, is it possible to change the tube on a 1209 hanged on the ceiling?

Thanks.
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Hulio



Joined: 15 Apr 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:43 pm    Post subject:

Yes, a shorted tube is mostly dead, not to be saved anymore. This because components inside the tube are touching each other, broken or loose. Also a fine crack in the glass will lead to arching.
From all crt projectors models, Barco 9" series have the easiest way of replacing tubes, especially when ceiling mounted. After removing the four bolts that holds the tube in his place (in the front of the projector), the tube is secured by only 2 pins. Pulling down on the tube neck will release the pins from their spring holes.
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virusc



Joined: 11 Apr 2007
Posts: 358
Location: Massachusetts

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:34 pm    Post subject:

If you go to replace the tube I would recommend replace with a test CRT of a different color or burned tube in place of the green in case the problem is not resolved and you break another tube. Green is the rarest and most expensive tube to replace unless you happen to have some spares.
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alb_qwerti



Joined: 30 Sep 2008
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Location: Italy

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:45 pm    Post subject:

Thanks for your answer.

The problem should has gone.
I replaced the splitter with another one and swapping the HT leads only the green is dead.

Now I open another thread "Shorted Tube" to understand better what's happened.

Thanks,
Alberto
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