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Tim in Phoenix · Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 4409 Location: Phoenix

So sad

Not a post for a week?

Someone turn off the lights when you leave

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**kal** · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:48 am Post subject:

I turned off my CRT lights in 2013. It was a good ride while it lasted and loved every minute of it!

Kal

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:34 am Post subject:

You mean I shouldn't turn on one of my 50+ CRT's? Shocked

gjaky · Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 2802 Location: Budapest, Hungary

To be honest summer is not the season of the CRT either.

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:12 am Post subject:

I'm staying indoors mostly. I don't run much because it's 30 C and 80% humidity in here and that's at 3am

gjaky · Joined: 05 Jun 2010 Posts: 2802 Location: Budapest, Hungary

sevs · Joined: 19 Sep 2017 Posts: 39 Location: Norway

I am not dead. This post isn’t about CRTs either. What a toxic forum. I don’t want to be active on a forum where I feel guilt for not posting. Especially when 100% of posts get derailed into «it’s not worth it» «you should stop trying» «dlp is better» by the same people who complain that «crt is dead». Pull yourselves together. Instead of complaining, try fixing the problem yourself. You are all grown up men.

Tim in Phoenix · Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 4409 Location: Phoenix

Hmmm

I've yet to see a DLP I liked. Board-flat, no depth or dimensionality, not drawn into the action at all. However DLP and some LED flat panels are likely the future off this hobby as only one company anywhere still makes new tubes. I am told that the Sony crystal led systems are awesome but very pricey; they are scalable to huge at about $5000 a square foot. Oooofff. Samsung just put in a massive LED system on the roof at SoFi Stadium, California, near a thousand tons worth, dang!

pj-toso · Joined: 19 Mar 2015 Posts: 69 Location: Norway - Oppland

Here in Norway 95% of crt-users was done by 2008.

I was done in 2006. I have used a G90 for nostalgia a few years back. It was cool, and I liked the picture. But it came quite fast apparant why we do not use crt anymore. In midst of the G90 euphoria I bought a couple of unused Barco Cine 9's. I have realized that I will never use them, they will go to the recycle plant pretty soon.

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:27 pm Post subject:

Sevs, your response is ridiculous.

**kal** · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:07 pm Post subject:

Zebra · Joined: 02 Jul 2020 Posts: 93 Location: NJ USA

CRT is still highly desirable for retro gaming fans (my other hobby). I have 4 CRT monitors and I've been looking for a deal on a Sony G90 somewhere close to the NY, NJ, CT border for over a year now.

There are certain things CRT is still best for. It's ability to switch res instead of scaling everything to a fixed native res is a huge advantage. As anyone who went to Sunday school knows, scaling makes baby Jesus cry. Some CRTs can display everything from old 240p games up to 1080p Blu Rays with no scaling artifacts.

CRTs have the best motion resolution. LCD and Lcos both have horrible motion res. A 1080p or 4k Blu Ray can often look like standard def on fast moving scenes with lcd or lcos displays. They have to resort to frame interpolation which changes the look of a movie from what the director intended. Or they use black frame insertion which makes 24fps content look dark. DLP is a little better than LCOS but still nowhere near CRT.

CRT is the only projection tech to light pixels individually which allows for awesome contrast. What JVC describes as their "native contrast ratio" requires the use of wiregrid polarizer filters in the light path. Those filters help produce great black levels and OK whites but CRT has better real world contrast for everything in between.

Old school arcade light guns only work on CRT and none of the newer flatscreen compatible light guns are anywhere near as accurate. Time Crisis with a real light gun on a large CRT = pure magic.

CRT has no input lag. A flatscreen using scaling and frame interpolation can make games unplayable due to lag. Or you can use game mode with no interpolation but then you suffer motion blur...

Anyone with collections of older movie content should hang onto their CRTs. DVDs and Laserdiscs look revolting on my 77" 4k oled. You need a CRT to get an acceptable image and there are some movies that are only available on older formats. The original versions of Star Wars, for example.

Most of what I watch is still 1080p (or less) or streamed 4k which looks no different to 1080p. Given that 9" CRTs still offer some of the best image quality for 1080p and below, I'd say they aren't dead yet. They've um.... Just become more niche.... N stuff.

**kal** · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:34 pm Post subject:

I think Mr. Zebra's going to fit in here just fine! Wink

Kal

thehockeytowner · Joined: 02 Apr 2020 Posts: 18

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:33 am Post subject:

HaydnG90 · Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 1356

I'm watching Knives Out on my vintage tech, super-charged G90 and loving it. Don't write the obituary just yet.

AFryia · Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:53 pm Post subject:

dvh99 · Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Posts: 2158 Location: nederland

**kal** · Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:26 am Post subject:

dvh99 · Joined: 25 Dec 2009 Posts: 2158 Location: nederland

i know all this and i am sure everyone is very grateful you put in this much time helping out other forum members but that doesn`t answer my question honestly.

i meant have you seen a pj 9 inch solely (still don`t understand why you had an 8 inch but ok) with the changes made on the boards to make them resolve the hd signal better and bring the noise floor down.

what`s your opinion about mike parkers mods for example on the marquee, have you seen them or his work on the g90 (though i am not sure he continued working on the g90) or gjakys work/mods on the marquee.

again kal i am not here to offend you if you feel like i did and can only applaud the many contributions you made for the crt community and still do be it to a lesser degree and wish you nothing but the best with your brewery endeavour.