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johnyfazer
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:32 am Post subject: Barco 908 Retroblock |
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I have a Barco 908 retroblock. Only one new remote control is attached to the housing. I have a second 808 retroblock projector that has an old type wireless remote control. I have a wireless control sensor for 908, but I don't have a wireless remote control. The old wireless remote does not work with the 908. What can I do? What should I remove from 808 to 908, what should I do to run the old type of wireless remote to work with 908? Can this be done? The new type of remote control 908 screwed to the housing can not work wirelessly. Soft 908 - 2,22 ,soft 808s 7,22
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km987654
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Those remotes work on two different systems. I know you can get the 908 remote to work on an 808 with the right firmware, RWI version and the sensors from a 909 but I doubt the reverse could work. You need to to obtain a remote from a 909 that looks just like the one embeded in the retroblock.
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johnyfazer
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Not good. Will it work from cine 7?
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km987654
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The remote that is fixed in the unit will also operate the projector.
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johnyfazer
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Is it technically possible to re-make this remote control from the housing? Is it possible to solder the system, give it energy - a battery for wireless operation?
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km987654
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| johnyfazer wrote: | | Not good. Will it work from cine 7? |
I don't believe so although I have not seen a Cine 7 remote. The Cine series projectors are not the same. The Cine 7 and 8 are nothing like a Cine 9.
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km987654
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| johnyfazer wrote: | | Is it technically possible to re-make this remote control from the housing? Is it possible to solder the system, give it energy - a battery for wireless operation? |
They are completely different systems. If you have a Cine 9 you need Cine 9 or 909 or 919 gear including the remote.
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km987654
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Put a WTB in the buy sell forum for a 909 or Cine 9 remote. You just might get one for not much money. You have nothing to lose by trying.
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johnyfazer
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Well. Thank you for the information. For now, I will extend the cables and fix the remote control elsewhere. Then I will look for a wireless remote control and buy it
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johnyfazer
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| Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:42 am Post subject: |
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and it looks like cine 7. They all look the same but may or may not work. It is best if it is certain that Barco 909. For now I have extended the cables and that's how I work. I will buy the remote control at the end when I start and set up the projector. I replace the lenses and the "C" element. I threw out HD 117/12, I chose colorful glasses and Sony G70 lenses. I don't like this job, hideous glycol. 
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km987654
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Its certainly looks the part
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gjaky
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| johnyfazer wrote: | | and it looks like cine 7. They all look the same but may or may not work. It is best if it is certain that Barco 909. For now I have extended the cables and that's how I work. I will buy the remote control at the end when I start and set up the projector. I replace the lenses and the "C" element. I threw out HD 117/12, I chose colorful glasses and Sony G70 lenses. I don't like this job, hideous glycol. |
Mind you the HD117/12 lenses are better than the HD-18s of the G-70.
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johnyfazer
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| gjaky wrote: | | johnyfazer wrote: | | and it looks like cine 7. They all look the same but may or may not work. It is best if it is certain that Barco 909. For now I have extended the cables and that's how I work. I will buy the remote control at the end when I start and set up the projector. I replace the lenses and the "C" element. I threw out HD 117/12, I chose colorful glasses and Sony G70 lenses. I don't like this job, hideous glycol. |
Mind you the HD117/12 lenses are better than the HD-18s of the G-70. |
I just noticed . You couldn't write yesterday?  I wanted to get a better contrast with Sony G70 "c" elements. Unfortunately, hd18 are not as sharp as hd 117/12. I think I will return to HD 117/12. Again the glycol robot  . A few years ago I dumped the original colored glycol from Sony vph1270 07mp lamps, the glycol in this projector was colored, although it was not the LC version. I have it in jars, the lamps were new when pouring. Is it worth pouring this colored glycol for retroblock 908 and use the original colorless elements "C" hd 117/12? I do not know if this glycol is enough for me, but the thinned version probably would help a little contrast.
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gjaky
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Coloured glycol won't work with LC systems as the thickness of the fluid varies around the C-element, causing uneven colour filtering. You have to live with the uncoloured C-elemnts, or use aftermarket stage filters in front of the lens.
Here the green filter is the biggest deal as unfiltered green tube is not sitting on the right spot of the IEC.709 colour space. Green tubes with P43 fast green phosphor (don't your retroblock have this?) are even worse: almost hopeless to properly calibrate.
The red tube is also somewhat out of where it should be, as it is undersaturated, but the red C-elemets are oversaturating red, so that isn't exactly correct either.
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johnyfazer
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my green: pt18-244gd, red and blue P16
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gjaky
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The fact that the green has a different part number scheme would suggest it is indeed a fast green tube (as indicated in the product brochure as well) but I can't tell for sure...
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johnyfazer
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It is probably "fast", otherwise it would also be p16. OK, I will return to the original 117/12. Thanks for the information
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Decibel
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| johnyfazer wrote: | | Is it technically possible to re-make this remote control from the housing? Is it possible to solder the system, give it energy - a battery for wireless operation? |
| km987654 wrote: | | They are completely different systems. If you have a Cine 9 you need Cine 9 or 909 or 919 gear including the remote. |
I think a Cine7 remote control will work in your 908.
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johnyfazer
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| Decibel wrote: | | johnyfazer wrote: | | Is it technically possible to re-make this remote control from the housing? Is it possible to solder the system, give it energy - a battery for wireless operation? |
| km987654 wrote: | | They are completely different systems. If you have a Cine 9 you need Cine 9 or 909 or 919 gear including the remote. |
I think a Cine7 remote control will work in your 908. |
I borrow a cine 7 remote control from a friend and check. How it works, I'll try to teach a universal remote control
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