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nidi
Joined: 17 Aug 2008
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Location: Switzerland
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Remember your boards were tested for days to make sure they were right. Not sure what happened when you got them back, or why I show nothing indicating you were having a problem with them. We talked about lenses and me shipping you a set, but no mention of the boards and their problem. I have nothing for months not indicating to me a problem existed.
Anyway, my decision to to stop doing them has a lot to do with problems like this. For a period i was also having problems with my hands as was the case with another medical problem I was having. I just burnt out but failed to throw the towel in. |
Then there seems to be something really wrong with your testing.
I'm still waiting to hear from you HOW you tested the boards.
Always excuses, excuses and more excuses.
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nidi
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:14 am Post subject: |
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the problem exists, why can't you just admit you did a less than satisfactory job, now that would be something.
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mp20748
Joined: 12 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| nidi wrote: | | the problem exists, why can't you just admit you did a less than satisfactory job, now that would be something. |
How would I be able to admit to doing a less than satisfactory job, when for months I had no idea you had a problem with the boards. There is nothing email/PM indicating that I had been informed. I find out for after maybe 4 months, you send the boards to someone else to be checked out (without my knowing), and I've never had a chance to look at any reported problems first hand myself or knew any existed until a few days ago. So are you saying, your sending the boards to my adversary to be checked out should confirm there was a problem with them for me?
If you purchased a Ford Taurus from a Ford dealership, would it be common for you to take it to a Chevrolet Dealer 5 months after there supposed to have been a problem with it. And after the Chevrolet dealer checks the car out, you then notify the Ford dealer where you purchased the car that it has a problem. And after the Ford dealer remind you of what's in your contract, that say "Do Not Take To Chevrolet dealer for any reason" you then ask the Ford dealer to admit to not doing a satisfactory job, when the Ford dealer did not know a problem existed, nor was giving an opportunity to, check, test, verify and confirm that a problem exist and still do not have excess to confirm a problem...
Is that how you solve problems with your automobile in your country also?
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jbmeyer13
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| mp20748 wrote: |
If you purchased a Ford Taurus from a Ford dealership, would it be common for you to take it to a Chevrolet Dealer 5 months after there supposed to have been a problem with it. And after the Chevrolet dealer checks the car out, you then notify the Ford dealer where you purchased the car that it has a problem. And after the Ford dealer remind you of what's in your contract, that say "Do Not Take To Chevrolet dealer for any reason" you then ask the Ford dealer to admit to not doing a satisfactory job, when the Ford dealer did not know a problem existed, nor was giving an opportunity to, check, test, verify and confirm that a problem exist and still do not have excess to confirm a problem...
Is that how you solve problems with your automobile in your country also? |
Conceptually I 100% completely agree with MP's analogy above. However, there are extenuating circumstances surrounding Nidi's situation. This was a quote by Nidi from earlier in the thread:
"my first impressions were good, sharpness good, but you keep forgetting that I informed you
about the problems after we tried to dial in , couldn't do it , sent them over for repairs , had to wait a long time for you to do it, and get back this.
So Nidi did inform MP of the problems AND sent the boards back for repairs. He then waits a long time to receive the repaired board and then when it arrives it produces the horrendous results captured in the calibration reports posted yesterday. So in short:
1) He informed MP
2) He paid to have the board sent back and forth for the repair
3) Waits a long time
4) Finally receives boards that have horrendous performance
That would be the equivalent of you buying your Ford out of state and then shipping it back to the Ford dealership once there was a problem. After you wait several months they send the car back to you but it's still not repaired properly. At that point, you would start looking at local independent mechanics to resolve the situation for you. When you approach your Ford Dealership about the problem which was discovered by the independent mechanic the dealership fails to remember that you informed them of the problem several months prior. At that point, any reasonable person would be upset.
My story is somewhat similar but fortunately had a happier ending. I purchased my 03 VIM (which had the older mini board) back in early 2015. When I first received it the board was awesome; huge step forward in terms of performance. However, after a few weeks we ran into a problem with the red channel cutting out so I sent it back to MP for repairs. He repaired it very quickly, sent it back and it worked. However, the gain structure was screwed up on one of the channels. MP spent several hours working with me as I replaced multiple components on both the VIM and VNB to resolve the issue. We chose this option to help educate me on the boards and to hopefully speed up the repair process. After having no luck I ultimately sent the VIM back to MP. It sat on the floor of MP's workshop for several months until Kurt arrived in the fall of 2015 (the now infamous PJ deal that broke their relationship). Kurt cleaned off potting material, begged me to remain patient as MP worked tirelessly to fix the 03 VIM (which ultimately received a new mini board). I then received the 03 VIM and it has worked properly since that time. So Mike did resolve the situation but it took quite a long time and thanks to Kurt I was quite patient. However, had I received a board that still didn't work properly I'm sure things would have gone differently.
A little while after this I sent my 02 VIM to MP to have the new mini board installed to serve as a back up to the 03. However, when I received the board back it failed to work. I notified MP of the issue but didn't send the board back as we were in the middle of moving to a new home so this was put on the back burner until the fall of 2016 when the new theater was being built and Kurt arrived to help calibrate my PJ. After calibrating the PJ with the 03 VIM he took a look at the 02 VIM and identified the following problems and proceeded to repair them; cut traces, component legs off backside, mounted termination resistors, put the ground pin on the mini board that was bent and had shorted a power rail. We then did multiple set ups and compared the 02 and 03 VIM's (which were both coupled with Kurt's lightly modded VNB's) and found the 02 VIM to be the board of choice. And that is how my setup has been ever since; happy as a clam.
So the short version for 03 VIM:
1) I had problems and informed MP
2) He worked closely with me in what I consider to be good customer service
3) Couldn't resolve issue, so sent boards back
4) Waited a long time
5) Kurt arrives with my working VIM
02 VIM:
1) Receive non-working boards
2) Contact MP but chose to hold on to it
3) Kurt fixes QC issues during calibration
My overall opinion is that the mini board modification was a massive step forward in terms of performance and is arguably MP's best contribution to the hobby. I also think that he does care about customer service and has always tried to rectify any issues. The downside is that the wait time is excessive and quite frankly the issues regarding QC are/were very irritating. MP will perform some of the best and most delicate soldering work you will find from any tech but then be careless on a simple cap replacement resulting in blobs of solder and shorts. It's akin to building an F1 car and then forgetting to tighten the lugs on the wheels prior to leaving the pits.
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mp20748
Joined: 12 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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So Nidi did inform MP of the problems AND sent the boards back for repairs. He then waits a long time to receive the repaired board and then when it arrives it produces the horrendous results captured in the calibration reports posted yesterday. So in short:
1) He informed MP
2) He paid to have the board sent back and forth for the repair
3) Waits a long time
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There were problems with one of the boards, but as I said, it was a problem already on the board. It had nothing to do with the section I had modified, but I still worked with him on this. The PM would show that he was willing to give up on it altogether, but I told him i would work on it more. And we moved on from there. It surfaced once more, and was addressed as well.
The point I'm trying to make here is that once he got the boards back after that final repair, the emails indicate that we had other discussions, some included me sending him lenses. During those discussions, there was also no mention of a problem with the boards. This has been the case for months. So the wait and long wait was more like last year or soon after, but for the most part of this year, I had no idea there was a problem with these boards, nothing no where. Ive looked in my PM's, where some were deleted, and emails that are many, mainly this year.
But regardless of whatever happened months ago, let's look at how long he has had those boards and that I was never informed that there was a problem. My understanding after he had got them back was that he was pleased. the discussions on the lenses were talking about further improving his image. He had contacted me asking if he should buy a different set of lenses for his projector, something I did not agree with and told him I did not think he would notice a difference, so save your money.
Bottom line here is that I was not informed there was a problem. I should have been made aware that a problem did exist, and giving an opportunity to correct any problems. None of that happened, to later being informed that he sent them to someone who several people let me know that same person has been trying to get them to send my boars them, and that is why I had included and made it clear to him to not send my boards to that anyone other than myself. So he was made aware of this, because i was someone is trying to make my work look bad and spends a lot of time doing so.
Anyway, I'm no longer doing mods, but have been 100% positioned to deal with ANY warranty issues, even if they were not mod related. But if I'm not informed, there is nothing I can do. And any warranty issues most be honored as what is Usual and Standard. I will not get involved in trying to solve a problem where someone else has been involved, especially when I've already mentioned what my position on this would be.
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jbmeyer13
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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But regardless of whatever happened months ago, let's look at how long he has had those boards and that I was never informed that there was a problem. My understanding after he had got them back was that he was pleased. the discussions on the lenses were talking about further improving his image. He had contacted me asking if he should buy a different set of lenses for his projector, something I did not agree with and told him I did not think he would notice a difference, so save your money.
Bottom line here is that I was not informed there was a problem. I should have been made aware that a problem did exist, and giving an opportunity to correct any problems. None of that happened, to later being informed that he sent them to someone who several people let me know that same person has been trying to get them to send my boars them, and that is why I had included and made it clear to him to not send my boards to that anyone other than myself. So he was made aware of this, because i was someone is trying to make my work look bad and spends a lot of time doing so.
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When exactly did you send back these boards to Nidi; i.e. how long was Nidi in possession of them?
Regardless of what the problem was he already gave you the opportunity to fix it once and you didn't. While I think it's prudent that he contact you to advise the problem wasn't resolved, he really doesn't owe you any further opportunity to correct the problem. Especially, when factoring in that he's on the hook for the back and forth shipping costs and the excessive wait times.
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mp20748
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It was his idea to have them looked at again, and he was very appreciative that I decided to do. He even gave me a tip the last time to show his appreciation. Again, we are talking about a problem on a board that was not mod related. How long ago, it's been months all I can remember
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nidi
Joined: 17 Aug 2008
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:36 am Post subject: MP Mod |
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| mp20748 wrote: | | It was his idea to have them looked at again, and he was very appreciative that I decided to do. He even gave me a tip the last time to show his appreciation. Again, we are talking about a problem on a board that was not mod related. How long ago, it's been months all I can remember |
the question still remains:
how did you test the boards?
why do you insist that it was a problem not mod related?
why didn't you tell me what the problem was?
why didn't you fix it?
you had those boards modified for the last years.
you knew about problems but didn't tell me and didn't fix them?
very interesting.......
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mp20748
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:22 am Post subject: Re: MP Mod |
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| nidi wrote: |
the question still remains:
how did you test the boards? |
No, a better question would be how did Kurt test the boards and why was he allowed to test them...
From PM's (last year)
"mp20748 wrote:
Part of the agreement on mu boards is that you not send them to anyone. You've chosen to do that, on something as silly as stock boards being better based on screenshots. That has to be the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time.
Kurt baited you and you took the bait to send my boards to him.
Thanks for being the only person who did that"
"just fyi, I never broke this agreement , your boards have never been sent to anyone."
So here we see the stock boards being better agenda preexisting this new push to convince you against my mods. Why this keeps happening, not sure, when for the past 15 years this is the ONLY times that stock board have been mentioned to be better.
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why do you insist that it was a problem not mod related?[/quote
from PM's (last year)
nidi wrote:
"Good Day Mike,
just wanted to know how far you have come along and if you found something wrong with the neckboards
especially the green one.
Thanks
have a nice weekend
Michael"
"Great Mike, can't wait! posted on Curt's today.
what contrast setting are you running on those?
have you found any fault on the neckboards?
Michael
nidi wrote:
"are willing to have another look at the boards and the Moome?"
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| nidi wrote: |
why didn't you tell me what the problem was? |
The first time I fixed that green neck board, I replace one of the output transistors. The I forgot what I replaced the second time, but did find it quite strange that he had a very different problem on the same board.
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why didn't you fix it?
I did twice (two separate times)
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| nidi wrote: |
you had those boards modified for the last years.
you knew about problems but didn't tell me and didn't fix them?
very interesting....... |
You got the set back last tear fully functioning, and that was after I fixed the same green neck board the second time (two different problems), that would be the exact same neck board you pointed out to me that had a problem. That problem was corrected twice on two separate send backs. You were made fully aware of the problems with that same neck board that had a failure when you sent it to me. You wanted to pay me to fix it, but I chose instead to charge you nothing.
Also, and why you should not have sent the boards to Kurt to evaluate. The Overall Low gain problem was because of the Gain Structure being different on those boards. Sending to the boards to someone 1, that's clueless as what what Gain Structure is and it's technical relevance here would be, would raise an alarm about the boards having a low output. I'll rather not get into an open seminar on this, because sending the boards to someone else should have never happened. And in the future, if you wanted to send anyone's work to anyone. It would have to be someone that has the professional ability to not be biased and allow their personal opinions and motives play a part in rendering a fair and proper end result. You would also need to recognize the people or those who have proven this required ability and are would be well known for being impartial.
I'll help you out here and list some names that would qualify and I believe are true professionals in this regard:
Tim Martin - very mature (stable) and still to this day is recognized by former Electrohome experts/professionals as one of the best out there when it comes to the Marquee
Curt Palme - another giant when it comes to professionalism. And is also one of the best component lever technical experts I know of.
Barclay - I've never met the guy, but based on what he has displayed over the years, he has shown both technical ability and finesse in my opinion to be considered up there with Tim and Curt.
Gjaky - for the most part, he's still a kid or wet behind the ears (young'n), but clearly a giant in technical capability and and I would trust to be impartial.
There are a few others, but I'd like to make it clear if you have any of my work, these are the people I would recommend you send it to to if they agree to check it out for you. Or for any and all other general consulting on the matter. The know already how the honor system, or what is also Known as Professional Courtesy.
I don't want to keep going back and forth with this, when your sending my work to someone else and not honoring our agreement is my main reason to not keep posting on this. At no point have I fail to repair your boards, because that one board with the problem was repaired twice. And concerning those other problems, there is a reason why I won't touch that. You and your calibrator indicated why the overall gain was low. That was a problem that was not on the VIM or neck boards, but was also corrected. After that correction, you reported great light output, much like what someone noticed with those boards. And it seems from then on after getting the boards back, and I mean months and months later, we discover that a problem exist with the boards. And of the problems that were reported, the one about the neck board blanking out of failing entirely. I can tell you that would have absolutely nothing to do with anything I've already done. Not only is it an entirely separate section of the board. That problem did not exist when you got the boards back.
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thewolfman
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I paid more than double than nidi, how do you justify that?
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jbmeyer13
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:06 pm Post subject: Re: MP Mod |
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You got the set back last tear fully functioning, and that was after I fixed the same green neck board the second time (two different problems), that would be the exact same neck board you pointed out to me that had a problem. That problem was corrected twice on two separate send backs. You were made fully aware of the problems with that same neck board that had a failure when you sent it to me. You wanted to pay me to fix it, but I chose instead to charge you nothing.
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This entire thread has been about the fact that Nidi DID NOT receive fully functioning boards. Apparently, the issue with the green VNB was not corrected on two separate send backs, hence there would be no need for a send back if it had been fixed.
There's two separate things:
1) the modded boards working properly
2) your agreement regarding sending boards to Kurt
You can argue that Nidi violated the agreement by sending boards to Kurt, however the fact remains that you never sent him properly functioning boards to begin with. Nidi would never had needed to violate the agreement if you could have delivered on the first part. Nidi could turn around and state that you violated the agreement by not sending him working boards and you guys can keep going around in circles until you are blue in the face.
I'll tell you this Mike, if there really was a non modded problem on those VNB's and you knew about it then why the hell were you modifying them? You've been doing this long enough to know that is a recipe for disaster.
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mp20748
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: MP Mod |
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| jbmeyer13 wrote: |
This entire thread has been about the fact that Nidi DID NOT receive fully functioning boards. Apparently, the issue with the green VNB was not corrected on two separate send backs, hence there would be no need for a send back if it had been fixed.
There's two separate things:
1) the modded boards working properly
2) your agreement regarding sending boards to Kurt
You can argue that Nidi violated the agreement by sending boards to Kurt, however the fact remains that you never sent him properly functioning boards to begin with. Nidi would never had needed to violate the agreement if you could have delivered on the first part. Nidi could turn around and state that you violated the agreement by not sending him working boards and you guys can keep going around in circles until you are blue in the face.
I'll tell you this Mike, if there really was a non modded problem on those VNB's and you knew about it then why the hell were you modifying them? You've been doing this long enough to know that is a recipe for disaster. |
At this point you should stay out of this, because you keep going back and forth on things, and being persistent to justify what was done wrong.
Here is a few things for you to chew on:
1) Nidi was aware of the problem on his board, and was the ONLY reason the modded boards were not working properly, beside the gain issue which was another subject, but had nothing to do with a failure or something not working. It was a misunderstanding, and we got beyond that.
2) Your justifying a wring by saying since the problem was not fixed, it was or would have been OK to send the boards to Kurt. I'm not at all shocked by seeing you write something so ridiculous. And can use a thousand examples of why that is so ridiculous, but thought would rather not. Here's how it works in the service industry. When an item or device is under a warranty, and the warranty has explicit rules stated on what NOT TO DO. To include, if there is also an agreement in place saying what has to be done. You'll just have to throw your opinions on this out the window and try to understand the rule governs, and let's not leave out that he's been like others persistently pursued to send my boards to someone he agreed to not send them to.
Purchase aboard from Curt or Tim then indicate that it has a ongoing problem. Send that board to someone else that these two guys not only advised to not send their board to, and then notify these seasoned service professionals that the same person who agreed to NOT send their board to, that they have found problems with it and this was done with consent.
Question, what do you think the results would be here, especially if it would be someone who others have been informing them that this particular person has been trying to get them to send their boards to. And let's not forget that the person is clearly seen as being an adversary.
I think at this point you either learn the rules of the service warranty industry, or just stay out of this going back and forth trying to justify something because of your motivation here.
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nidi
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:58 pm Post subject: mods |
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Mike,
rules? what rules?
I expected fully working boards, THE FIRST TIME.
going back and forth and still not getting working boards , that NOT SERVICE.
you told me that everything is working, you tested adjusted ain , match it
and they are the best work you every done.
the PM's you quoted are months before you fixed the VNB's.
so they say nothing.
but we are past this, as I said earlier, I do want to have an unmodified 03 , and a set
of unmodified VNB's
you agreed to this.
there's NO MORE DISCUSSION.
I expect those boards shipped the next week.
and please dont charge other people too much for your work, it's not worth it.
do other people on this forum had this much problem with Mike?
now's the time to speak up
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nidi
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Justin's Projector: Modded 9501LC ULtra- MP VIM, Vold VNB, ETECH LVPS, Silver VIM Cables, HD10F's & a V1 case!
why does Justin only use Mike's VIM and has Kurt modified VNB's , Im wondering?'
it looks like Mike's new mods on the VNB's might be less than optimal.
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nidi
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| thewolfman wrote: | | I paid more than double than nidi, how do you justify that? |
did you have problems with your mods, Wolfman?
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nidi
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| racerxnet wrote: | | Quote: | | I would also like to keep on the table an open option to correct what you purchased from me, because I can't fill in the blanks of a long period of not hearing or knowing what was the status of those boards. And also know your being pleased with the stock boards, would be because you are used to them. |
Carrot and stick approach to keep you coming back. Long period because he takes so damn long to complete something, he forgets what’s going on. I admire his quick action on collecting someone’s money though.  Nidi, take the boards untouched and Moome card and move on as quickly as possible. Don’t shed one more cent on MP’s mods.
MAK |
MAK, can you tell us the experiences you had with Mike please?
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mp20748
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: mods |
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| nidi wrote: | Mike,
rules? what rules? |
OK, maybe the wrong word. How about agreement...does that sound more accurate?
| Quote: | | I expected fully working boards, THE FIRST TIME |
Yes, and as mentioned, one of the neck boards you sent me had a problem. The back and forth dealt with that neck board. there was another problem, but that was the Moome card, that somehow slipped through the cracks. It had to also be modified for the very different Gain Structure of the video chain. That only required making changes to the Moome.
The other problems were ALL related to your defective or problematic green neck board. That I labored to correct or fix, yet now you and justin has been trying to convince me that it was because of the work I had done to your boards, or was caused as a result of what the mods. When you yourself knew and made it clear up front (as I've already pointed out previously here). Solet's get this straight, you had informed my of a green neck board that had a defect and had replaced defective components on it, and the problem seem to still exist. And I'm being held responsible for a problem that hadd nothing at all to do with anything that I've done.
let me try this one here:
You took your car to have the transmission upgraded, and when you got there, you informed the service facility that the transmission also had a problem staying in gear. The Service guy told you he would look at the problem while also making the other changes to the transmission. You get your car back and the problem staying in gear came back. you then take it back again and the Service Facility makes another attempt to service solve your problem, and after the second try, and you picked up your car. You once more contact the serviced months later asking about a set of tires and their opinion of them. He makes his recommendation and has not heard from you as more months pass by. Then all of a sudden, you contact the service facility letting them know that gear slippage problem came back, but you instead took it across the street to their competitor, and the guy there who hates your guts tell you he found more than that one problem.
Do you really think that service facility would be responsible for that same problem?
let me tell you how the law deals with a situation like this here in the US. And it also respects whatever agreement that's in place, but in general, the law would require that you first inform the service facility that the SAME problem had came back. It also requires that you give that service facility an opportunity to correct that problem. You may however stand before a judge and say you don't want them to do anymore work on your car, and then ask the service rep to respond to your request. The service rep only has to mention, that the problem existed before he did his work, and he volunteered at no charge to correct it.
| Quote: | nidi wrote:
"are willing to have another look at the boards and the Moome?"
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You have been very nice to have been asking me if I would be willing, because we both knew, I was helping you with a problem that had absolutely nothing to do with what we originally agreed to, nor was it caused from what I had done.
| Quote: | going back and forth and still not getting working boards , that NOT SERVICE
you told me that everything is working, you tested adjusted ain , match it
and they are the best work you every done |
And by not hearing back from a customer letting me know the boards were not working, and this went on four months on months back into last year. Heard nothing from you about any problem with the boards, to include a couple of contacts asking me about other things over that period, that included my opinion to go with better lenses and would you notice a difference, yet still nothing about a problem. And let me throw in there that I have been asking you about your setup and you kept letting me everything was fine all up to a few days ago...Kurt tested my board and found something wrong. It took Kurt to let you know your boards were not working..
| Quote: | the PM's you quoted are months before you fixed the VNB's.
so they say nothing |
And how long has it been after i had fixed the boards. I have that info also...
| Quote: | but we are past this, as I said earlier, I do want to have an unmodified 03 , and a set
of unmodified VNB's |
you agreed to this.[/quote]
No not exactly, what to replace depends on what I determine is defective. and that is what I meant when I said let's start with this. Sending my work to Kurt to evaluate was WRONG and improper. I would have to check things out myself and determine what is going on. And from there, we can talk about what I will be willing to exchange or swap. I still need to confirm that a problem exist and where and what the problem is.
| Quote: | | there's NO MORE DISCUSSION |
Should I send you some rules on how this should be dealt with?
| Quote: | and please dont charge other people too much for your work, it's not worth[/quote you lok at what's at the bottom of my page and please inform both Kurt and Justin that I really have burnt out on the mods and have no intention of doing them again, so they can relax.
now's the time to speak up |
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HaydnG90
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: mods |
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| nidi wrote: |
do other people on this forum had this much problem with Mike?
now's the time to speak up |
Well since you asked, I have a prototype MP modded BA board in my G90 and it has given me zero problems in over 5 years of use. The improvements were immediately noticeable. I spoke with him at length on the phone and found his knowledge and passion for the field rare to find in this digital age. So many like William Phelps left analog behind long ago.
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jbmeyer13
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| nidi wrote: | Justin's Projector: Modded 9501LC ULtra- MP VIM, Vold VNB, ETECH LVPS, Silver VIM Cables, HD10F's & a V1 case!
why does Justin only use Mike's VIM and has Kurt modified VNB's , Im wondering?'
it looks like Mike's new mods on the VNB's might be less than optimal. |
Actually MP modded my original ehome set of vnb's and they worked well. I liked those boards quite a bit and there were never any issues with that version of his mods which are 3-yrs old. In MP years; that's like 30-revisions ago 
Kurt's boards were hand picked with components that had matching tolerances and then lightly modified. The slight smpte issue that I had was resolved by Kurt's neck cards, they tracked with perfect linearity from 0-100ire and could be used with either my 02 or 03 vim.
Mike's vnb's were good but Kurt's just performed better. Mike has altered the gain structure so radically that his latest mods probably bare little resemblance to my version from 3-yrs ago. That was before MP's philosophy on light output changed.
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