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My definitive CRT projector setup document...
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject: My definitive CRT projector setup document...

I've been working on a full CRT projector setup document that explains everything (almost) from taking it out of the box to having a VERY watchable pix.

I asked Kal to post it, but since it's probably going to be revised a few times, he said to post it here for download/as an attachment for you guys to comment on.

This is the first part, email me directly with changes at curtpalme@shaw.ca and I'll change stuff around as required. The final document will then get posted on the site.

(Edit: Curt attached the same file twice by mistake... I erased one - Kal)



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drice1234



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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject:

Curt,
This is very timely for me. I will be doing my first full CRT setup this week. I will let you know if a novice can follow this.
Thanks
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject:

At first glance, the 2 files look the same. Are they (yes, I'm lazy...)?

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Curt Palme
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject:

Yes they are, sorry 'bout that.
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Axatax



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TV/Projector: Sony VPH-G70Q (aka Barco Cine8 Onyx)

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject:

I'm not seeing any of the images in that doc. ?
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Zebu Fellenz



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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject:

All the images work for me using office 03
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:08 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
Yes they are, sorry 'bout that.
Shouldn't that say "Yes they are, sorry aboot that." Eh? Wink
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SYC



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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:46 pm    Post subject:

Thanks for your effort. I have two suggestions. One is to change to the first picture about raster set-up. You used a Barco one so that it may mislead some newbies with XGs. Another suggestion is not to use internal test patterns. For example, I used the fine cross hatch to adjust my width-height radio and made a mistake because I thought it should be a square. I was told that by Doug when I asked my set-up question on A site. Regarding the cross hair pattern to adjust toe-in, I remembered my cross hair pattern wan't in the middle obviously when I got it. It needs to be centered before using it to adjust toe-in.

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CZ Eddie



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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:29 am    Post subject:

I don't have MS Office installed right now, so hopefully you post the final version as a .PDF or I'll have to download openoffice.org's stuff. Smile
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Mark_A_W



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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:04 am    Post subject:

Curt

It's missing the critical Service/User Passcode setup for getting into Service mode, to then access Raster Centering.

Also the statement that Position Shift is the fine raster position control is incorrect. Shift moves the image within the raster, not the raster itself. It is used to position the image in the center of the raster.
Fine raster movement is done with Static (keep below 5).

Also Raster Centering is Global, so you set it for your primary res, and use Static on secondary res's.

Lots more could be added about using the corners of the image to do toe-in, and levelling deflection yokes.....god, it could take yonks to get it all in there.

Mark
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kschmit2



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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject:

please include Phase settings with pictures. Phase seems to be the most confusing setting for noobs Smile
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject:

OK, duly noted!
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drice1234



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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:01 pm    Post subject:

In comparing your instructions with the manual, as a newcomer I would like some more clarification on the bow, skew and linear adjustments and if there are any tricks to performing these adjustments to make it easier. Maybe there are no tricks and it just takes time and practice. Also, details on the ways that memory settings an be utilized and how to apply them to different sources.
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Dan
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Alaric



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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject:

Hi There,

I thought you did toe in before Scheimpflu....Oh and it seems very NEC biased....May be worth a cut and paste into a new document with details for other models, eg a barco and a marquee....or extending to point out the differences ???

Also when finished its probably good to publish it as a PDF...

http://www.primopdf.com/

Is a good free one that i've used sucessfuly...Once installed you just print and save as the PDF Thumbs Up

Cya,
Lee
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dc_pilgrim



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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: PDF

Here it is as a PDF if anyone needs it that way.

Haven't had time to read it yet, but will offer a rookies opinion (and in a few months experience) when I do.



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Mark_A_W



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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject:

Alaric wrote:
Oh and it seems very NEC biased....


Cya,
Lee



Umm, it's called NEC XG Setup.doc. Smile The other's don't count anyway.



I would do check Toe in after flapping....back and forth, back and forth.

Nothing is ever done once.
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:04 pm    Post subject:

Alaric wrote:
Hi There,

I thought you did toe in before Scheimpflu....Oh and it seems very NEC biased....May be worth a cut and paste into a new document with details for other models, eg a barco and a marquee....or extending to point out the differences ???


Hey, when someone can invent a way that I can work 24 hours a day instead of 16 without crashing hard at least once a week, I'll have no problems devoting a full 8 hours a day to putting articles on the site.. Mr. Green

Other brands will be forthcoming, but every time I click on something on the site already, I see crap that I've missed. Unfortunately this site costs instead of generating money while I sleep, no effort or skills required.





At least that's what the ad on the back of the comic book said! Thumbs Up
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:

At least that's what the ad on the back of the comic book said! Thumbs Up


Lemme guess you were once a 98lb weakling?

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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:12 am    Post subject:

Good...!

I think I'll be able to use this soon...=))
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:11 am    Post subject:

Jaric00n wrote:
Good...!

I think I'll be able to use this soon...=))


Which the document or the back of the comic book?

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