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tschaeikaei
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:15 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's exactly the same with me like CM says. CRAP, CRAP, CRAP. Lot's of ads in between.
If my girlfriend would not watch, there was no TV in our appartment.
I never thought about adapting the projectors to the cable connector which is about 2m away.
Never!
My everyday TV is internet. I can watch what i want, when i want, skip the ads.
Use an adblocker, there are things like "magic actions for youtube" (ad remover, country filter disabling) which i recommend.
Bad thing about the internet is tracking. Google does it, facebook (i don't use facebook and never will for that reason) and so on.
But we don't discuss this here, do we?
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cmjohnson
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:43 am Post subject: |
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I make such agressive usage of every sort of ad blocker on my computer, that I almost never am bothered by any ads at all.
Some websites even try to tell me that they won't let me watch their content if I don't disable my ad blockers, to which my response is simply, screw 'em. I'm not going to watch the content, then.
The greatest thing about the internet in its early days was its relative lack of advertising.
The worst thign about it today is that advertising is becoming almost as pervasive as it is on TV. I resist that as I am able.
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tschaeikaei
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:05 am Post subject: |
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Again, full agreement.
What's even much worse to me on the internet is the tracking and observation various companies do.
That's where most of the money is made nowadays.
They'll record every website you visit, every thing you buy on fleabay, build up user profiles, sell the profiles to the
advertisers. Or even worse, to the government in all it's appearances.
Buying cigarettes or alcohol on the internet? Your health insure will know about that (if they are paying enough).
And there will come a time in the not so far future when you get a letter from the health insurance saying you got to pay more monthly.
Simple example for something really threatening.
We will live in the Matrix very soon ( i think you Americans like exaggerations  .
Regards, Julian
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Spanky Ham
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| cmjohnson wrote: | Honestly there is not a single TV show running today that interests me enough that I schedule time to watch it. Not a single one.
Even if I DVR a show or movie, I'll watch it "whenever", usually that's late at night if I can't sleep that night. |
Not one? What have you sampled? You haven't walked by your parents watching something and decided to give it a try?
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| garyfritz wrote: | | These days I hardly use mine at all. I now have a housemate living in my basement, and I have to go through his living room to get to the theater. |
You should grab a beer out of his fridge on the way to the theater say "sup". 
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cmjohnson
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | | cmjohnson wrote: | Honestly there is not a single TV show running today that interests me enough that I schedule time to watch it. Not a single one.
Even if I DVR a show or movie, I'll watch it "whenever", usually that's late at night if I can't sleep that night. |
Not one? What have you sampled? You haven't walked by your parents watching something and decided to give it a try? |
How old do you think I am? Well, the correct answer is 50. The days of seeing what my parents are watching are decades in the past.
Frankly, no, I give so TINY a turd nugget about TV and the media in general that I would much rather indulge my spare time
in taking broken things apart, figuring out why they failed, and fixing them, or reading a book, or visiting a friend, or doing SOMETHING more useful with the limited number of hours allotted to my life than wasting them watching what's on TV, which I do FAR less than the average person does.
I do not have a TV addiction. I am one of a handful of people I know of who can say that.
In actual fact I care so little about network TV that I haven't even bothered to sample many shows that are currently or were recently very popular.
I have never watched a full episode of Seinfeld. Nor do I wish to. Hunger Games? Game of Thrones? Those are just words to me. I hear there are some zombie apocalypse TV shows on, too, but I've never seen a single second of one. DON'T CARE.
The last show I made an effort to catch was Futurama.
I do enjoy a good movie, though. As much as anybody does. When I turn on my PJ, it is for the sole purposes of watching movies. There isn't even a cable source connected into my system. It's purely disc based, at this time. I may change something in the future, but if I do I haven't even formulated a vague idea of what I may want to do. Probably a server based media library is in my future, if I ever decide to pursue it. I'd like to remodel the room, at some point, too.
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tschaeikaei
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I know this is the totally wrong forum section, but CM, if you're a movie enthusiast (we all are) I'd propose you to watch game of thrones.
At least one episode. It is not the average TV series you think it could be, but more of an epic (hopefully) never ending movie.
Like a grown up version of the Tolkien based movies Peter Jackson made.
I think a PC based setup is best for home theater, because you'll have the most possibilities.
If you use the internat harddrive, NAS or a server is not too important.
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cmjohnson
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I might give it a shot. Thanks.
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kal
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| cmjohnson wrote: | | why would I want to waste tube life on something I'm not even watching? |
You originally said "I do not burn those expensive, limited lifespan CRTs on wastes of time like regular daytime television. Movies only." which everyone took to mean that you use something else to watch TV, not "I don't watch TV at all" which is fair enough.
I don't watch much TV at all either other than the odd Netflix series or a documentary. Haven't seen a commercial in over 10 years (mostly Netflix now but we have a satellite PVR too).
| Quote: | | Back in the day, the standard for a half hour TV show was 22 minutes run time and 8 minutes of commercials. Even that was too much. Now they're down to 18 and 12. |
20-22 is still standard. Lots of what I watch on Netflix is 20-22 minute episodes ripped from other places.
What shows have 12 minutes of content in a 30 minute timeslot?
FWIW, saying all TV is bad is short sighted. There's some phenomenal TV out there and there's some crap movies out there.
There are shows that are as well produced and interesting (and have bigger budgets) than a lot of movies. Many a-list actors have moved to TV because now the money's that good because the studios can pay them that well. HBO is a good example. Pretty much everything they put out is fantastic. Netflix has a ton of exclusive shows that are also excellent.
I rarely watch the 'major' networks like ABC, NBC, CBS however as that's the stuff I'm generally not interested in.
If you're truly choosing to watch only content that you consider "movies" instead of "TV" then you're missing out on a lot of good content. The lines are completely blurred today.
Kal
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cmjohnson
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18 minutes run time, 12 minutes of ads is now standard practice in some markets. Not 12 minutes show time, 18 minutes of ads.
But I predict it'll eventually get to that point!
There isn't even a TV source in my theater room. Well, actually there is but it hasn't even been plugged in for a couple of years.
I briefly tried watching regular TV on my projector but quickly lost interest in that.
I'm sure there are some good shows to watch, but I just don't want to. I'm happy NOT watching so much TV. I choose to do other things that I find to be more rewarding.
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larryp
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How do you keep up with the Kardashian's if you don't watch tv?
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Spanky Ham
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| cmjohnson wrote: | | Spanky Ham wrote: | | cmjohnson wrote: | Honestly there is not a single TV show running today that interests me enough that I schedule time to watch it. Not a single one.
Even if I DVR a show or movie, I'll watch it "whenever", usually that's late at night if I can't sleep that night. |
Not one? What have you sampled? You haven't walked by your parents watching something and decided to give it a try? |
How old do you think I am? Well, the correct answer is 50. The days of seeing what my parents are watching are decades in the past.
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Well, I didn't think you were a kid and I knew you were older. Based on your comments recently about your pj not moving in a decade, I assumed it was still in your bedroom at your parents house. IIRC that is where you set it up back then.
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Frankly, no, I give so TINY a turd nugget about TV and the media in general that I would much rather indulge my spare time
in taking broken things apart, figuring out why they failed, and fixing them, or reading a book, or visiting a friend, or doing SOMETHING more useful with the limited number of hours allotted to my life than wasting them watching what's on TV, which I do FAR less than the average person does.
I do not have a TV addiction. I am one of a handful of people I know of who can say that.
In actual fact I care so little about network TV that I haven't even bothered to sample many shows that are currently or were recently very popular. |
That is great, but other people really like to watch quality entertainment whether network or movie based.
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kal
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | | That is great, but other people really like to watch quality entertainment whether network or movie based. |
Yup. That was the point I was trying to get across.
@Chris: You should sign up for a free month of Netflix and check out some of their exclusive content. They have some amazing stuff. Like I said, the idea of TV / movies is completely blurred in 2016. I'm not a "TV" watcher in the classic sense (don't watch network TV) but some of the stuff you get out there now for $7/month is fantastic. I'm buying less movies in fact.
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cmjohnson
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| larryp wrote: | | How do you keep up with the Kardashian's if you don't watch tv? |
Why would I even want to?
Trash TV has no place in my viewing schedule.
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cmjohnson
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| kal wrote: | | Spanky Ham wrote: | | That is great, but other people really like to watch quality entertainment whether network or movie based. |
Yup. That was the point I was trying to get across.
@Chris: You should sign up for a free month of Netflix and check out some of their exclusive content. They have some amazing stuff. Like I said, the idea of TV / movies is completely blurred in 2016. I'm not a "TV" watcher in the classic sense (don't watch network TV) but some of the stuff you get out there now for $7/month is fantastic. I'm buying less movies.
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Not feeling any interest in that. Sorry, but I persist in believing that there's more to life than watching TV. I am FREE of TV, and I don't want to change that.
There was a time when I was about as much of a vidiot as any other average guy my age.
I don't ever want to go back to being that again. Life is too short, there are too many activities to do, and TV just cuts into the time it takes to do those things.
I'm perfectly happy with the way things are for me. I have the complete freedom to do all the things you've suggested. I could hook up the HD DVR/cable box again. I could get Dish. I could get Netflix. And I want to do NONE of them. Why are you pushing me to try to do something I don't give a crap about?
No, sir, I'm not joining the herd. Speaking of which, this evening I'm hoping for a horseback ride.
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Spanky Ham
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I don't believe he is pushing you, but you seem dead set on bashing anything but movies. I guess I am the vidiot you speak of. Personally I would rather watch an episode of The Americans over any movie I have seen in the past year.
I am glad that you have other interests to keep you occupied. On the other hand, there are others that like to relax and unwind with quality entertainment. Crabb has mentioned that he loves unwinding at the end of the day with his wife and/or kids in the theater.
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cmjohnson
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We have different ways of relaxing and unwinding. I will admit, perhaps spending time on the internet serves the same function for me that watching The Americans does for you. But I like to get out (some) evenings and see if I can make a few good photographs in gorgeous evening lighting, or go to a book store and find a new book to go home with, or go visit a friend and just shoot the breeze, or...anything, even try to fix my broken down projector so I CAN watch another movie soon!
And of course I must occasionally attend to my ebay-based business.
Which reminds me, I need to set up about five auctions this evening.
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kal
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| cmjohnson wrote: | Not feeling any interest in that. Sorry, but I persist in believing that there's more to life than watching TV. I am FREE of TV, and I don't want to change that.
There was a time when I was about as much of a vidiot as any other average guy my age.
I don't ever want to go back to being that again. Life is too short, there are too many activities to do, and TV just cuts into the time it takes to do those things.
I'm perfectly happy with the way things are for me. I have the complete freedom to do all the things you've suggested. I could hook up the HD DVR/cable box again. I could get Dish. I could get Netflix. And I want to do NONE of them. Why are you pushing me to try to do something I don't give a crap about? |
You're not getting it. We're saying that there is content available on exclusive "TV" stations like Netflix now that is equal to whatever you can get in movies.
What you're not getting is that "TV" in the classic sense has changed because it now includes exclusive content like Netflix and HBO which is every bit as good and often better than most movies.
The lines have completely blurred given that places like Netflix and HBO will spend $100M on a miniseries, no different than many movies. You seem stuck with the idea that all TV means you're watching Urkel in the ABC/CBS sitcom Family Matters.
I've never watched "TV" like that, but I watch "TV" now because of HBO, Netflix, etc.
The differentiation between TV and movies you make no longer exists so when you say you don't like "TV" and that you only like "movies" it doesn't make any sense at all in 2016.
Kal
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cmjohnson
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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The point is that I completely totally understand what you're saying and still don't care to spend more of my time watching WHATEVER you want to call it, be it TV, a movie, or some hybrid thereof.
It's like you're trying so hard to get me to join up with netflix that I wonder if you don't get a cut for signing people up to it.
It's not going to happen.
There are actually a few shows I will sit down and watch if I'm not busy. But not many, and I'll wander away from any of them
if there's something else I want to do. TV (any kind other than a movie I decide to watch on the projector) just doesn't hold my interest very much.
This started with me just saying that I use my projector fairly rarely, only for watching movies and doing so as a special occasion, so it's maximally enjoyable as it's not an everyday thing.
Ever since then people are trying to get me to watch more of the idiot box.
You can stop now. I'm not interested. And I don't understand why trying to get me to watch more TV is important to you. It's
almost like you want to get me hooked on the same drug you're hooked on or something.
Just stop. I don't care what you watch. I'm happy with my choices. I see all I want, when I want, how I want, and don't
care about what I'm not seeing.
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kal
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| cmjohnson wrote: | | The point is that I completely totally understand what you're saying and still don't care to spend more of my time watching WHATEVER you want to call it, be it TV, a movie, or some hybrid thereof. |
This is confusing.
You said previously movies = good, TV = bad. This doesn't make any sense at all in 2016 and is all that we've been trying to point out. You admit you don't actually subscribe to or get anything that we consider good TV which makes it more confusing why you'd say this given that you've never actually seen anything good on TV. But still for some reason you classify anything that is "TV" as not as good as movies.
I couldn't care less what you watch. Just trying to stop you from making nonsensical statements.
Maybe we have different definitions of TV. Let's just leave it at that. Watch whatever you want.
Kal
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