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macgyver655



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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:37 pm    Post subject:

Ok, remove C84 from the board and then test across the pads on the board.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:52 pm    Post subject:

removed it, the -20v fuse pad now reads .434
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:54 pm    Post subject:

Luuk neele wrote:
removed it, the -20v fuse pad now reads .434


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'What does it do across the capacitor pads on the board? That is what mac is asking.

Check that for continuity as well as with the diode.

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:02 pm    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
Luuk neele wrote:
removed it, the -20v fuse pad now reads .434


'
'What does it do across the capacitor pads on the board? That is what mac is asking.

Check that for continuity as well as with the diode.

Nashou


Yeah, he did not do what I asked but he jumped ahead and the short is now gone. But were not done yet. Laughing
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:05 pm    Post subject:

Luuk neele wrote:
removed it, the -20v fuse pad now reads .434


As I noted above to nash, you do have some problems following instructions, LOL. Laughing

So I see the short is now gone but you do have to do a few more things on that board. So pull it back out.

Now locate C85, should be right there nearby also and do a diode test across it.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:06 pm    Post subject:

macgyver655 wrote:
Nashou66 wrote:
Luuk neele wrote:
removed it, the -20v fuse pad now reads .434


'
'What does it do across the capacitor pads on the board? That is what mac is asking.

Check that for continuity as well as with the diode.

Nashou


Yeah, he did not do what I asked but he jumped ahead and the short is now gone. But were not done yet. Laughing


sorry, i sometimes confuse things as i am not a native english speaker.
However a continuity test (with the board out) gives me no beep on the pads. it just silently stays at "1"
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:08 pm    Post subject:

macgyver655 wrote:
Luuk neele wrote:
removed it, the -20v fuse pad now reads .434


As I noted above to nash, you do have some problems following instructions, LOL. Laughing

So I see the short is now gone but you do have to do a few more things on that board. So pull it back out.

Now locate C85, should be right there nearby also and do a diode test across it.


reads .678 on c85
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:08 pm    Post subject:

Luuk neele wrote:


sorry, i sometimes confuse things as i am not a native english speaker.


OH, ok, that explains it, sorry.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:10 pm    Post subject:

Ok, 1 more thing to test. CR17 should be near there also. has 3 legs. Do diode test across various legs looking for a short.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:14 pm    Post subject:

macgyver655 wrote:
Ok, 1 more thing to test. CR17 should be near there also. has 3 legs. Do diode test across various legs looking for a short.


reads .673 on cr17
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:31 pm    Post subject:

Luuk neele wrote:
macgyver655 wrote:
Ok, 1 more thing to test. CR17 should be near there also. has 3 legs. Do diode test across various legs looking for a short.


reads .673 on cr17


There are 3 legs. give me some more readings.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:41 pm    Post subject:

bottom two legs read 1.932
left leg and top leg read .673
right leg and top leg read.673
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:41 pm    Post subject:

Yes CR17 is a BAV99 https://www.fairchildsemi.com/datasheets/ba/bav99.pdf


it is a dual diode .

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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:59 pm    Post subject:

was my second measure okay?
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:05 pm    Post subject:

Those numbers look fine. Should you should be done with testing. And the +40v line tested ok so now you can order parts.

So I have:

2) 75kohm, 2 watt resistors
1) 2.2uf Tant SRF mnt
1)LM320T-12
Whatever fuses are needed.

I would change that regulator even though it did not test shorted. Also, the 2 watt resistor may be a little tight in between those 2 caps but if the legs are long enough you can get them mounted ok.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:09 pm    Post subject:

thank god i have an SMD rework station with a hot air gun so i can mount surface modules.
ill have to see where i can order those parts. which regulator did you mean?
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:10 pm    Post subject:

The one that you already have removed. You said it came out by itself.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:14 pm    Post subject:

Luuk neele wrote:
thank god i have an SMD rework station with a hot air gun so i can mount surface modules.


I just use 2 soldering irons.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:20 pm    Post subject:

oh yeah, thats the lm320t-12 that came out.

are these the right parts?

https://www.conrad.nl/nl/pmic-lm340t-12nopb-to-220-3-texas-instruments-1014073.html
https://www.conrad.nl/nl/kemet-t491b225k035zt-tantaalcondensator-22-f-35-vdc-10-l-x-b-x-h-35-x-28-x-19-mm-1-stuks-501176.html

i need to find the resistors, i see a lot of watts but not 2watt.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:40 pm    Post subject:

You need a 320. Your link is for a 340. So no, that will not work.
The cap has enough voltage but you need to check the size to make sure it will fit on the board. You don't want one to big that you cannot solder in on correctly.
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