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[Nashou66]

Well Jim Has Un Officially announced the new RadiancePro !!!

[CIR Engineering]

Thanks for posting this Tom. It's a relief for me because I've been talking to Jim about this for nearly three years now and have had to keep my mouth shut about it.

whew

craigr

[Nashou66]

[km987654]

What time frame to market?

[Nashou66]

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Much sooner I think.

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The way Lumagen has released new product recently is as follows. There will be an early beta program and then a late beta program and then final release. The beta programs will use final revision hardware and will only need the field upgradeable firmware installed.

I think early beta starts very soon, but the processor will have terrible deinterlacing at first and a lot of bugs most likely. This is because Lumagen is working on a proprietary in house deinterlacing system unlike anything else. So unless all you watch is progressive video only, the early beta will not be suitable for most users as a stand alone unit. This is another reason Lumagen is allowing for "loaner" 2143 units.

craigr

[donaldk]

Pity, just bog down standard 1.4a i/o. Of course the base-line for any HDMI version is the same, just the high limit is different, so one can refer to it as 2.0. If this unit is really still a year away, then full bandwidth chips should available at launch. If sooner, that will be much less likely. Calibre chairman told me July/Infocomm for his 4KP60 10bits 4:2:2 or higher unit(s). Calibre was launching its new FPGA based 4K scalers at ISE last month. I guess this answers my questions posted in your AVS thread.

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It looks like Lumagen will be ready to ship final hardware units with beta software in less than two months. The units firmware is field upgradeable as usual so you can move up with the beta versions and then install the release versions of the FW.

The chips are HDMI 2 compliant and HDCP 2.2 compliant. You need HDCP 2.2 for native 4k sources.

I'm not sure of your original question though.

craigr

[Nashou66]

Still not sure if I want to participate with such a big cash outlay if Jim can not assure me that at least two outputs will be able to have individual calibrations.


That is really bumming me out, Id love to do it but I would need two then and no way will I be able to afford it. I could get a good 4k digital if that was the case.

Athanasios

[donaldk]

2.0, but regular 1.4 bandwidth not 18 Gigabit+, otherwise it would do 60P 4:4:4, and 10 bits.

"The base unit has two HDMI 2.0 outputs that support 4k60 8-bit 4:2:0."

[donaldk]

Indeed Anthanasios, the VW300 lists for €6,999.- That's less than a pair of these scalers. If you could you probably could spring for an ex-demo/used NEC (smaller) or perhaps even Barco/Christie. I find even the TV-One units too much. TV-ONE is strictly 1080P max, nothing approaching 4K at all.

What do you think of the Coretronic blend box? It has two colourcalibration options according to the announcement on the ISE show's website,I posted probably in Hampies thread. BTW, that Blendbuddie appears to be a multidispolay colourmatching app,not a blending software, 20 usd would be cheap for a blender;-).

The narrow blendzones in the driving simulator do show more than in real live situation with ambient light:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGSbeyS2Ppg

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Also, Lumagen has NOT said that they will not not support 10 or 12 bit 4k on the Pro though.

craigr

[donaldk]

Indeed the latest greatest DCi projectors work internally at 16-24 bits per colour. The Barco E2 scaler/processor works at 12 bit. The Analogway Ascender at 10 bits, and it is scheduled for 4K60P 4:4:4 output firmware upgrade this quarter. That will go the tried and trusted route of 4 outputs.

Craig that's why I asked Nashou about the capabilities of the FPGA, in my in initial reply over at AVS. The outputcards are clearly scheduled to go full bandwidth HDMI 2.0 at a later date.

Crestron also boasted its new progammable scaler chip, but it turned out to be the same 4K60P 8 bit 4:2:0 limit as the competition that is using chips limited to 300Mhz bandwidth.

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[Nashou66]

So Craig Jim told me that the outputs wont be( well might be but dont count on it) individually CMS'ed but if you say they want to do the idividual 4k outs then I would think they have to have not only 2 outs that discrete CMS but 4 ! It look horrible if someone wanted to do the 4 k hard edge blend and the 4 displays were not equal in CMS.


Nashou

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[Nashou66]

Yeah I understand. But if I am going to spend the money for a beta unit and I NEED dual CMS capability , and it is not sure it will be implemented at all I'd have to pass. It would really suck if later they do add it when I could have gotten the beta trade in deal. And I'd only be able to trade one XS towards it( totally understandable).

Keep pushing Jim and Pat for dual CMS capability. I think that a lot of other Lumagen owners would love that. It could do dual duty
for the theater display and the main living display.


And In may that other company I am talking to will release their beta edge blend unit with what they say will have CMS. How much CMS is another question, and I need them to add 1056x800p@72 to the resolution outs. they will not offer user adjustable timings

Nashou


Just my thoughts.

nashou

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