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rebaygsda · Joined: 16 Jan 2015 Posts: 28

i was intrestied in gaming purposes With guns on 72 inch crt khz signal on Televisions same hz for crt projecting
i understand by using a vga card that support diffrent vga modes and using a Board i can split it to 15khz and get the lines for ligth gun to support guncon or other Device on my computer.

i am intrested in buying a barco crt projector.
i have alle the guns coming and most of the consoles
i am ready
i read that older projectors dont use teqnology to postprocess upscale image so 1980 cool for 15 khz and duck hunting

**kal** · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:57 am Post subject:

I've split your post into a new thread as you posted in something completely unrelated to wanting to buy a CRT projector for gaming. I nuked your account originally because you talked about wanting to upload torrent music files or other illegal activities. We have no interest in that.

To purchase a CRT projector, please contact Curt at curt@curtpalme.com.

Cheers,

Kal

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

Almost all CRT projectors display an unchanged 15.7kHz signal, with the exception of two Barco models that i know of, one being the Cine 9 which you wont aim for to do this, and im not sure about the 1609 but you wont find one of them anyway.

They almost all have RGB inputs, some have component, almost all have composite and s-video. All will be bright enough for gun games on a 72" 4:3 screen in my experience. I used a Sony VPH1001 on a 100" screen to play Point Blank! on the PS1 with genuine Namco Guncons for ages many years ago.

rebaygsda · Joined: 16 Jan 2015 Posts: 28

well i asked Curt palme got answer. i also bidded 400$ on ebay i lost did not meet mininum winner
i asked one guy in france With Google translator. anyone intrested in selling me one?
when it comes to buy one they sh*t about 1000$ shipping

**kal** · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:55 pm Post subject:

Where are you located?

CRT projectors are large and heavy. A $50 projector can easily cost you 2-4 times that amount to ship, and even 10 times that amount if going international.

When did you email Curt and how long did you wait?
No offence, if the email you wrote was anything like the PM you sent me, he probably erased it because it appeared like spam and was very hard to understand.

Kal

rebaygsda · Joined: 16 Jan 2015 Posts: 28

im located in norway i found a type i can get for euros 200 + shipping 1900 local currency
http://www.finn.no/finn/torget/annonse?finnkode=53988145&searchclickthrough=true&searchQuery=projektor
they also got a 100 kg that was 270000kr quart of a milion in 1978 idk know this one.
yes i want to buy smal one i can have in my small room for 50$ pluss shipping i dont want to pay price for big a one and get another one before i can get small one

i want one now or i cant fit itto my room i read 70 inch thats what i want in room 2
anyway this is a Seleco 3 i think it work With my guncon svideo Dreamcast Saturn playstation Xbox also this http://www.ebay.com/itm/171591253033 best i found to use crt on computer for mame Arcade sega model 2 and 3
my gun work too away from my Television Panasonic it was bad Connected so black white 28 any recommendations.
i still want the small one for 100$ pluss shipping i read 72 inc fit to my room 3 meter

i read that seleco work 7 mhz also models i go for it if not Curt got better idea soon feb?
will this one work http://www.finn.no/finn/torget/annonse?finnkode=53845300&searchclickthrough=true&searchQuery=projektor
Sony VPH 1252 QM projector i have read New crt used a hz khz splitter addin Board to register the gun on screen

also i read most will work. and i read that braco dont Works on guns

**kal** · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:16 pm Post subject:

Your best bet is to find something local.

It doesn't make any sense to ship a $50 projector for $500 from Curt in North America to you in Norway.

Kal

rebaygsda · Joined: 16 Jan 2015 Posts: 28

Yeah but Sony VPH 1252 QM projector this is cheaper 1400kr cheaper and newer
will this one work With the games i think sony gotalot replacement lamps if i shoot the lamps out.
i got a dlp and want a crt projector for gaming i even use soft15khz even converter for mame Arcade sega saga model 2 3
sony or seleca i dont know what 700 lines are it not compatible With duck hunt anything compatible With that can play all 3d consoles With gun Very Happy

**kal** · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:43 pm Post subject:

As CasetheCorvetteman mentioned above, pretty much all CRT projectors will work at 15Khz (480i).
You can check here to see which ones have H scan that can go as low as 15KHz: http://www.curtpalme.com/PJSpecs.shtm

rebaygsda · Joined: 16 Jan 2015 Posts: 28

is 700 lines a Upgrade making some titles on someconsoles not compatible With the Sony VPH 1252 QM ?

**kal** · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:55 pm Post subject:

The 1252 will scan and display just about any resolution you'd throw at it.

You really need to read this to understand some of the basics, including how resolution on CRT works:

http://www.curtpalme.com/CRTPrimer.shtm

Kal

rebaygsda · Joined: 16 Jan 2015 Posts: 28

as i understand A standard North American video (NTSC) video signal consists of 525 horizontal lines that make up the TV image.

These 525 lines do not change whether you are watching a 14” TV or a 10’screen. This is why many larger pictures look grainy, as
or 480 pal. i can not use line doublers guns dont work is sony 700? lines good?
seleco uses sony ok Razz

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

KAL, 15.7kHz for gaming is almost never 480i. 15.7kHz refers to a H scan rate and has very little to do with resolution, there are quite a lot of resolutions that are 15.7kHz rate and arcade boards especially, but also home consoles can ( and do ) operate anywhere between 50Hz and 62Hz V rate.

480i is the visible resolution of the 525 line NTSC60/PAL60 standard 15.7kHz broadcast and has no relevance to video games.

Other guy, you dont need to downconvert Sega Model 2 arcade boards from their original 24.5kHz output to use the guns. The guns will work at any H scan rate, it is the game and console that matters, and the H scan rate must match all the way through with no delays due to image processing.

The 1252 should do the job just fine. Connect the games to the RGB input and run them in their original format.

Dont buy a Seleco, alot of them will be 15.7kHz only and you need to sync at 24.5kHz and 31.5kHz as well as the usual 15.7kHz.

And forget about the NTSC/PAL thing, it is totally irrelevant. There is no NTSC/PAL in an RGB signal, and television broadcast standards are also of no importance.

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

rebaygsda · Joined: 16 Jan 2015 Posts: 28

Yeah i own benq dlp and its very long lamp life 200000 hours more i think its New standard i buy another lamp later but for gaming i will require crt only aiming is precise. i did try ems top gun 3 for lcd all display and it completly f*ck*** to garbage

rebaygsda · Joined: 16 Jan 2015 Posts: 28

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

rebaygsda · Joined: 16 Jan 2015 Posts: 28

is there refill tube for cinemas running Movies all the time refilled the tubes? this sold as carhode small bottle off transitors for conemas like IMAX 3d other Places refilled tubes after countless hours of Movies only got New one when exploded due to heat. iknow sed silverscreen IMAX full depth 3d early 1990s 2000 before hdmi stuff. this was the real 3d using Virtual world demos and simposn horror portals and real life video 100% 3d you can see all around glasses take hand in rocks trees. it was battery driven fat crt eyeglasses Very Happy

. it was only demo availbe in my region and IMAX 3d Movie list to other countrys

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

Im not quite sure what you mean there.

cosaw · Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:05 pm Post subject:

Maybe you mean reconditioned tubes. And confusing them with the bulbs in digital cinema projectors and also the old film projectors - of which IMAX still use both. I'm not ruling out CRT projectors being used in the odd small commercial cinema years back but I think if that was the case they'd be highly infrequent.

It seems you are mentioning some early CRT driven virtual reality headset too, able to do 3D.