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redfox001
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This is the best I get with vga mac adapter. No focus astig etc only bandwidth.
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stridsvognen
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| redfox001 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | redfox001 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | redfox001 wrote: | | What are the experiences with the Marquee without mods does it resolve 1080p 100% from a Moome? |
If you run a 03VIM with trimpots you will be able to adjust a close to perfect 1:1 but you wont have the low noise and higher contrast as the mods give you. |
Ok that seems to suggest that my vga card is the problem because I resolve the 1:1 (much better than the Barco but) not 100%. The vga is better than the old Moome version that I had. |
So you have a 03VIM adjusted to a reference source/ DAC.? |
Oh wait I have a vim 02. So that should not resolve 1080p 100%? But it has an old version of the MP mods. |
Its hard to tell when not knowing how your moome and vim card behave.
Standard neckboards have some peaking, not sure about the older MP mods.
I think the game has changed a lot the last 2 years regarding the MP mods, seems he had some massive improvements lately.
Still i think the standard Marquee might still holds the highest real bandwidth if you compare to others.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| redfox001 wrote: | This is the best I get with vga mac adapter. No focus astig etc only bandwidth.
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And how do HDMI into the Moome card look like
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redfox001
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I only have vga at the moment but it was worse than this.
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redfox001
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I mean some people say they get perfect 1:1 from a Nec with a vga card. Is the Nec better than the Marquee even with mods?
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stridsvognen
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| redfox001 wrote: | | I mean some people say they get perfect 1:1 from a Nec with a vga card. Is the Nec better than the Marquee even with mods? |
I have been trying to ilustrate how you need to evaluate how the 1:1 looks from black to white, and how i made a G90 have better 1:1 on off with a moome card with a lower bandwidth, so its not as simple as you make it, when peaking filtering and limited bandwidth stuff have to play together.
Its impossible to say what did what and why not knowing how each step of the chain is behaving, so you might see a perfect 1:1 at full on off, but low level 1:1 is totally cut off.
So its possible you get a better 1:1 with a VGA card or VGA solution who is filtered harder than your Moome card, or the other way around, its not a proof of bandwidth, unless you can document that there is no peaking distortion/ overshoot, and it will do perfect from black to white 1:1.
The cool stuff about the latest MP mods is that he have removed peaking on the neckboards, and improved the real bandwidth, and removed a lot of noise who washes out the image.
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draganm
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | If you run a 03VIM with trimpots you will be able to adjust a close to perfect 1:1 . |
03 VIM with trip pots? I've never seen a 2035-03P with trim pots, who did this?
The standard VDC VIM with trim pot peaking circuit is a basic 2035-02P VIM and 250mghz Quadrupler
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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low left corner.
And its factory made for sure.
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| stridsvognen wrote: | low left corner.
And its factory made for sure. |
wow, cool, but no way it's factory made IMHO. the 03P was made one year only by electrohome Candada circa 1996. Christy digital never made them and AFAIK VDC never made them. Scott, the lead Engineer at VDC who designed the peaking circuit , didn't even believe the 03P was a superior board until some forum member sent one to him for testing.
What's the date on your 03P with peaking circuit, should be a 1996, about 16 years before the peaking circuit was designed.
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stridsvognen
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| draganm wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | low left corner.
And its factory made for sure. |
wow, cool, but no way it's factory made IMHO. the 03P was made one year only by electrohome Candada circa 1996. Christy digital never made them and AFAIK VDC never made them. Scott, the lead Engineer at VDC who designed the peaking circuit , didn't even believe the 03P was a superior board until some forum member sent one to him for testing.
What's the date on your 03P with peaking circuit, should be a 1996, about 16 years before the peaking circuit was designed. |
Its 1996 as the rest, i guess they must have had some left, and addet the peaking and sold it with a projector later on.
It looked like factory work, no indication of DIY work.
With the latest MP mods, the MP 02VIM is better than any factory 03VIM with or without trimpots.
So there is not much reason to hunt for those hard to find 03VIMs anymore.
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Impressive picture those VIM's 
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redfox001
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Well ok it turns out to be a Vision 2 slight miss communication I guess but beautiful case anyhow. The only thing is that the front openings have been made bigger to fit the 9 inch but it does not look bad this way so I keep it so.
One question this case seems again different from the other Vision 1/2 cases I see. Is this an older model? I think I find it a little bit more beautiful and i like the iron sides more although they need some black spray. I think the other case work easier when you have to adjust the tubes?
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please tell me you not going ot paint over that beautiful black piano- lacquer finish with a flat-black spits-can? 
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redfox001
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| draganm wrote: | | please tell me you not going ot paint over that beautiful black piano- lacquer finish with a flat-black spits-can? |
No  The side panels down low are the normal mesh iron panels. One of them is black and the other was not finished and is gray. I might only take these meshes and spray them. The pictures don't show it very clear.
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Curt Palme
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There were 2 versions of the Vidikron case. I don't know why the change, or which one is older/newer.
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redfox001
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| Curt Palme wrote: | | There were 2 versions of the Vidikron case. I don't know why the change, or which one is older/newer. |
Ok. I was thinking perhaps the other one works easier when doing astig? On the other hand astig is not done daily.
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RaWsHaRk
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| redfox001 wrote: | | draganm wrote: | | please tell me you not going ot paint over that beautiful black piano- lacquer finish with a flat-black spits-can? |
No The side panels down low are the normal mesh iron panels. One of them is black and the other was not finished and is gray. I might only take these meshes and spray them. The pictures don't show it very clear.
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now that is a smooth looking crt. the best looking "factory" case for sure.
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Could there be a problem with airflow? In fact it doesn't matter much to me if it is vision 1 or 2 the material feels very good in my hands much better than the cheap plastic pvc stuff I like the material better than the barco casing too.
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