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Tim in Phoenix · Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 4409 Location: Phoenix

Uh oh

The projectors are too far apart...........they should be almost touching

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:11 pm Post subject:

Pretty much everything in the room was free, save for the projectors and HD DVD/BR player. I actually have more HD DVD than BR, once the theatre fell into dis-use, I stopped buying discs.

Receiver came from the recycler, free, seems to work fine save for the occasional iffy connection to the HDMI source. Switch between sources a couple of times, and it comes back. Will try a firmware update, but need to run a CAT5 line to the receiver.

PS3 and XBoxes were free from the recycler. Can't remember where the VHS machine came from.

SACD player- bought at closeout, I've never used it, so that's connected fir the first time.

Power amps- bought at dealer cost- $400 each I think. INter M brand, 200W RMS X 4 each, 2 in the rack.

Speakers- EAW- taken in on trade from a pub, didn't allow anything for the trade-in when we installed the new gear.

Projectors and mounts- bought from the military, and a customer in North Carolina when I bought the 2 Runco DTV 1200s. I sold the 1200s, neither customer needed the original BArco mounts, so those are in my system.

All I noticed last night is a hint of wear on the used blue tube, but only when I really look for it. I've got a surplus of new blue LUG tubes, so I'll put one of those in.. at some point in time. Effort will be spent now on getting the second set up and running, tweaking the crap out of the system, then working on audio. Hopefully by Christmas, I'll have the AT screen in as well, and a bunch of the sound absorbing panels.

Barb has seen both Craig's and Cliff's setups, and is assisting in getting my room to somewhere around that level. Nothing that time and money can't cure. Smile

Spanky Ham · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central

Ok, we got it. You don't have to repeat yourself three times!! Razz

Same thing happened to me. I copy the post and check to see if it went through before hitting submit again.

Free sounds good for the sources. You may not care now, but you may want to look into Atmos for the future. I think you can get away with two ceiling speakers, but four is the recommended number.

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:51 pm Post subject:

Well, seeing the 7.2 layout for the Onkyo setup screen, I am missing a crapload of speakers. Smile

I have Mordaunt Shorts for the side surrounds, but might consider putting up 4 matched surrounds for the side and rears. Not sure if I'm going to bother with all of the speaker locations that they show behind the screen (once I go AT). Wiring it up isn't an issue, nor are finding speakers, but I don't know if it's worth it. I do actually have two dual 15" woofers behind the screen, so I may do the .2 sub system. Not sure if it will make much difference, but that's what the playing is going to be all about.

Once I'm semi happy with the setup, I'll also play with lenses and compare the Fury to the Moome.

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

stridsvognen · Guest

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:18 pm Post subject:

Far more keystone, pin and lin adjustments than any other projector.

both sets are up, but of course now I need to repair something for a customer, so I will see if I get two images overlapped tonight. Both sets hit dead centre within 2 cm.

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

Nashou66 · Joined: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 16171 Location: West Seneca NY

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:16 am Post subject:

All good so far...

bbfarmht · Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:29 am Post subject:

mmmm A blend sounds good!!

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:14 am Post subject:

So I fired up the one set tonight. It's got a tiny issue, I hear a chirp out of the projector every 2-3 minutes, and the pix jumps. Not HV arcing, but it sounds like something is up with the H deflection board.

Still, the 909 is a kickass projector! Man, talk about SHARP! Convergence, after about 5 minutes, is ROCK SOLID, well on par if not more than Cliff's G90 sets. I am sooo loving this setup! Will do more this upcoming week, I'm already making a laundry list of what needs doing... AC.. Lutron dimmer installed... blah blah blah... Smile

the big E · Joined: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 1928 Location: speedwell Tn.

Man curt your bringing back my idea to do a blend

I just recently got a htpc installed so if I wanted I could try a pc blend or triple projectior setup(mobo supports three display feeds at one time)if I had room

The atmos is something I will have to prep for also(more infinity speakers Smile

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Francisco · Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 305 Location: The Netherlands

Poeh I'm glad there is some positieve talking about the Barco 909's for a change Thumbs Up

Even from the "holy master himself"
Good work Curt looks very promising, I think if you put 2 sets of Manakin.1 lenses on you could make a 90C curved screen Wink

redfox001 · Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: The Netherlands

I think you could simple upgrade the 909 to Cine Max by adding a little temp controlled fan circuit. I would be happy to draw the schematics as it seems very simple. The connector on the controller is already there. Would this not make it possible to upgrade all 909 to Cine Max? I myself could not find another difference as the fans on the back are exactly the same on both models and I know that if the fans in the tray start spinning they produce all the noise.

stridsvognen · Guest

CasetheCorvetteman · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 6326 Location: Australia

More keystone makes no real difference on a 909... Its all digital control.

redfox001 · Joined: 16 Mar 2009 Posts: 2257 Location: The Netherlands

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:33 pm Post subject:

Redfox is right, it doesn't matter if the adjustments are analog or digital, what it comes down to is the RANGE of the controls. Still, with the location of the projectors right now, I am using no more adjustment range than any other installation. I have seen some planetarium dome installations where some adjustments are maxed out to get the image to blend with the next projector, and the sets are reliable and stable.

Once I start aligning the second set (hopefully today, to at least FOCUS the damn thing!), I will post some numbers, but I expect the settings to be well short of max or minimum on any setting.

BTW, I was told by a Barco tech that the big advantage is that the adjustment signals on everything are kept fully digital right until the last second, where they are converted to analog. that's indeed true, every adjustment is right on the controller board, and at the output of the board, it turns to an analog control signal that then feeds the convergence/focus/astig output boards. Wiring runs are all within the controller tray, and the same cannot be said about any of the older Barco projectors.

Damn set is stable as hell, I checked convergence at startup, 15 minutes in, and at the end of the 90 minute movie. Love these sets all over again!

stridsvognen · Guest

What i have always wondered about, when i was thinking about side stacking, is if pressing the lines together in one side of the image, and the other side on the other projector dont effect sharpness, the ability to have the same scan line thickness, and space between.?