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9500 Ultra Software version 6.1?
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Melifluonze



Joined: 25 Nov 2013
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Location: Upstate NY

TV/Projector: 9500LC Ultra

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:08 pm    Post subject: 9500 Ultra Software version 6.1?

So, that's what comes up! Version 6.1

Tubes look 100% unused, but the hour meters are in the 20-30 THOUSAND hours...

The projectorlooks unmolested.

Mfg. January of 2008.

Is this an unused projector???

It came to me on a pallet of 5, the others vastly used and essentially crushed...

- Melifluonze

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gjaky



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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:30 pm    Post subject:

Dust on the fan blades are usually a good indicator of use. Otherwise if the tubes look good and they have good emission I wound't care about chassis hours, it's not even that old anyway.
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Melifluonze



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TV/Projector: 9500LC Ultra

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:15 pm    Post subject:

Some pics...


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Melifluonze



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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:19 pm    Post subject:

Part Number is different too....


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gjaky



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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:41 pm    Post subject:

IT HAS THE LATEST VNB WITH THE SANYO TRANSISTORS !!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked
No matter what, stick to this machine!

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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:42 pm    Post subject:

Looking nice.

Check what kind of tubes it have, if its PT22 tubes its no good.

And what kind of lenses are those.? GT17, or HD10E.?
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:42 pm    Post subject:

Well, I've got 10 of these as well. Very Happy Will be up for sale shortly once I go through them...
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:43 pm    Post subject:

gjaky wrote:
IT HAS THE LATEST VNB WITH THE SANYO TRANSISTORS !!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked
No matter what, stick to this machine!


Was it not you that had the diagram of those and told it had 7 peakings on those VNB.?
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Melifluonze



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TV/Projector: 9500LC Ultra

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:44 pm    Post subject:

Here's the green tube part number...

Going to check if that's normal...

I'm trying to figure out why it says SIM In the description, and why the part number was rev'd...



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Melifluonze



Joined: 25 Nov 2013
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TV/Projector: 9500LC Ultra

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:50 pm    Post subject:

Sweet on the neck boards!

Curt, you sure you've got these? My other three are not SIM machines... 09 part number...

No... All are HD-10L...

So, is the LUG a better tube? And is the "43" the fast response phosphor?

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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:55 pm    Post subject:

LUG are nice, not sure if those neckboards are made for LUG tubes, normal neckboards need a mod to run with LUG tubes.

And no 43 is not fast phosphor, be happy about that.

Are they all LUG tubes.? Wink
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gjaky



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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:58 pm    Post subject:

stridsvognen wrote:
gjaky wrote:
IT HAS THE LATEST VNB WITH THE SANYO TRANSISTORS !!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked
No matter what, stick to this machine!


Was it not you that had the diagram of those and told it had 7 peakings on those VNB.?


Yes, it was a response to your statement that everything is better without peaking, I was to show that the right ammount of peaking is inevitable for the good performance... Wink
When this board was new, Mike Parker checked these boards briefly at VDC and he said that these boards are masterpieces and tuned for perfection, these VNBs need a special matching VIM (because the clamping was removed from the VNB).

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Curt Palme
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:59 pm    Post subject:

Just look what you've started Meli.. I haven't seen so much instantaneous activity on a thread since someone (Cliff) posted a topless pix of a hot woman! Very Happy
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gjaky



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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:02 pm    Post subject:

stridsvognen wrote:
not sure if those neckboards are made for LUG tubes


They are.

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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:05 pm    Post subject:

gjaky wrote:
stridsvognen wrote:
gjaky wrote:
IT HAS THE LATEST VNB WITH THE SANYO TRANSISTORS !!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked
No matter what, stick to this machine!


Was it not you that had the diagram of those and told it had 7 peakings on those VNB.?


Yes, it was a response to your statement that everything is better without peaking, I was to show that the right ammount of peaking is inevitable for the good performance... Wink
When this board was new, Mike Parker checked these boards briefly at VDC and he said that these boards are masterpieces and tuned for perfection, these VNBs need a special matching VIM (because the clamping was removed from the VNB).


Would be interesting to see the performance of a set of those neckboards, at the moment im running neckboards with 0 peaking, and they do 200Mhz without any trouble.

Whats the bandwidth of those SANYO transistors, and the old Motorola transistors, i thought they had to redesign the board as they were unable to find a transistor who matched the specs of the old Motorola.?

Special VIM.. And whats the name of that one.?
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Melifluonze



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TV/Projector: 9500LC Ultra

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:07 pm    Post subject:

Errr... sorry... I'm a hardware junkie and these projectors are up there on my list of SUPER COOL. Digital is too easy... These things are moving electron beams around in the analog domain. That's magical mysterious "Black Arts" in my world.

The VIM is really modified!

Here's the CLM too...



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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:10 pm    Post subject:

Thats a 02VIM with peaking trimpots and vertical line mod who should be removed for a decent black level performance.

My 2004 VIM is just like that one, or at least it was. Very Happy
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Melifluonze



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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:16 pm    Post subject:

Vertical line mod... I'll see if I can find a thread with that...
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gjaky



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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:19 pm    Post subject:

stridsvognen wrote:
gjaky wrote:
stridsvognen wrote:
gjaky wrote:
IT HAS THE LATEST VNB WITH THE SANYO TRANSISTORS !!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked
No matter what, stick to this machine!


Was it not you that had the diagram of those and told it had 7 peakings on those VNB.?


Yes, it was a response to your statement that everything is better without peaking, I was to show that the right ammount of peaking is inevitable for the good performance... Wink
When this board was new, Mike Parker checked these boards briefly at VDC and he said that these boards are masterpieces and tuned for perfection, these VNBs need a special matching VIM (because the clamping was removed from the VNB).


Would be interesting to see the performance of a set of those neckboards, at the moment im running neckboards with 0 peaking, and they do 200Mhz without any trouble.

Whats the bandwidth of those SANYO transistors, and the old Motorola transistors, i thought they had to redesign the board as they were unable to find a transistor who matched the specs of the old Motorola.?

Special VIM.. And whats the name of that one.?


As you can see it is a "peaking cap" -02p, with modifications, not a big deal, but still not compatible with the plain VIMs.

Scott (aka. tse) designed the new board, the output transistors are not better than the original Motorolas (~700 vs. ~1000MHz) but the driver transistors are significantly better (2,2GHz vs. 1,3GHz) and that matters more.

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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:22 pm    Post subject:

gjaky wrote:
stridsvognen wrote:
gjaky wrote:
stridsvognen wrote:
gjaky wrote:
IT HAS THE LATEST VNB WITH THE SANYO TRANSISTORS !!!!!!!!!!! Shocked Shocked Shocked
No matter what, stick to this machine!


Was it not you that had the diagram of those and told it had 7 peakings on those VNB.?


Yes, it was a response to your statement that everything is better without peaking, I was to show that the right ammount of peaking is inevitable for the good performance... Wink
When this board was new, Mike Parker checked these boards briefly at VDC and he said that these boards are masterpieces and tuned for perfection, these VNBs need a special matching VIM (because the clamping was removed from the VNB).


Would be interesting to see the performance of a set of those neckboards, at the moment im running neckboards with 0 peaking, and they do 200Mhz without any trouble.

Whats the bandwidth of those SANYO transistors, and the old Motorola transistors, i thought they had to redesign the board as they were unable to find a transistor who matched the specs of the old Motorola.?

Special VIM.. And whats the name of that one.?


As you can see it is a "peaking cap" -02p, with modifications, not a big deal, but still not compatible with the plain VIMs.

Scott (aka. tse) designed the new board, the output transistors are not better than the original Motorolas (~700 vs. ~1000MHz) but the driver transistors are significantly better (2,2GHz vs. 1,3GHz) and that matters more.


Im not sure your right about the VIM, it looks very much like a standard 02VIM with the standard factory mods, who all the late 02VIM have.

Someone should try it out.
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