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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:53 am Post subject: XG LC lens flapping/now two dead tubes,& blown tire... |
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Gday all 
I need a photo of the diagram that will be stuck on the inside of the front cover that goes around the lenses on an XG LC.
It is the sticker that tells you where to set the flapping rings for various screen sizes and projection angles.
The one inside my cover is for HD-144/HD-145 AC lenses, its now LC with HD-18 lenses and i dont know if the diagram is the same for both types.
Thanks 
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gjaky
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:53 am Post subject: |
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This is what I have:
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| XG LC lens flapping adjustment table |
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Awesome work Gàbor, exactly what i was after
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| Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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So the new jugs are in than Case
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Not yet mate, might make a start on it today, just cut up a truck load of fire wood here for a couple friends, ill put up my shade cloth around my car port, then the projector is next
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Here's where im at after abit over an hour:
New mounting plates are in, everything screwed back up...
Just got the neck hardware to swap over and the tubes will go back in...
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:58 am Post subject: |
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I must add, id probably be almost done by now if i wasnt doing this on the ceiling!!!
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gjaky
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:06 am Post subject: |
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After you done be patient with the lens focus, especially with the corner focus. I took me one month to figure out why the right side of the green is so blurry
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Why is my green neck glowing blue and arcing???
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:08 am Post subject: |
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I am finished assembly by the way, but the green tube seems to be shot, and the blue is also arcing internally, but not much...
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gjaky
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Sorry to hear that... the blue light is definitely a bad case of contamination, the high voltage inside the tube ionizes the gas that got inside, also the frequent arcing inside the tube imply loss of vacuum, since the vacuum has pretty good dielectric strength, air is much worse, and G-1 and G-2 are pretty much close together, lets hope the arcing didn't take out any neckboard...
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:57 am Post subject: |
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No the neck boards are fine, there is still an image on both tubes, all be it very dim and very blury...
On closer inspection the blue is somewhat worse than the green.
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gjaky
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | No the neck boards are fine, there is still an image on both tubes, all be it very dim and very blury...
On closer inspection the blue is somewhat worse than the green. |
At least...
The gas destroys the beam focus and not let to accelerate the electrons fast enough.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Got me buggered how they couldve lost their vacuum, they have no physical damage at all.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Its a dead set pain in the arse to remove the LC housings from the set compared to the AC, the ACs will slide right out, the top bracket has to be removed to get the LC housings out...
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gjaky
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Got me buggered how they couldve lost their vacuum, they have no physical damage at all. |
Not entirely lost, this is a very minor contamination compared of a broken tube, air gets in usually at the pins or the anode cap.
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gjaky
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Its a dead set pain in the arse to remove the LC housings from the set compared to the AC, the ACs will slide right out, the top bracket has to be removed to get the LC housings out... |
And you haven't think about how you get out the bare tubes out of the housings...
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:17 am Post subject: |
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Either way, im not overly excited about it...
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:12 am Post subject: |
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Allright, there is now no question about it, these two tubes are f***ed.
Pics to come.
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