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redfox001
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| Hulio wrote: | The MP modded RGB input board will work in Cine 9.
Here Mike's post from five years ago:
https://www.curtpalme.com/forum_archived/viewtopic.php@t=18450.html
Not 100% sure about the RGB driver board. Shoot Mike a PM, he will tell for sure.
Don't forget before working on static astigmatism to neutralize the dinamic astig first.
A reset to midposition in the service menu will put everything to 49, with exception of dinamic astig.
You have to manualy put din. astig to 49 ( axial and diagonal in all zones ).
Than take care of static astig ( magnet rings on tube neck ) and when done, bring your dots to perfection with dinamic astig. |
Yes it definitely is the right one on that picture. There are some chips upgraded on that board so it will certainly do something. The driver I really don't know at this point. I mailed Mike but he has not been online the last few days.
In this topic Mike talks about drivers but the one show is a 7627205
https://www.curtpalme.com/forum_archived/viewtopic.php@t=34512.html
Thanks for the tips on astig. Didn't know that.
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You can set dynamic astig to midpoints from the service menu.
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redfox001
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| Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Moved her 15 cm up the middle of the screen is now 30 cm above eye height.
All setup has to be done again 
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ElTopo
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Most beautiful CRT projector ever made !
Congrats.
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redfox001
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Thanks! I really enjoyed that Hobbit episode yesterday. The picture is without doubt the very best I have ever seen.
But I am trying to figure out where the sounds come from. I replaced all NMB back fans with the fans from my 809 yesterday. The difference was in the rubber fan mounts. Though at first it seemed better after some time I was not sure. Today I replaced the original fans with mount and put some cork in between the frame and the fan. At first this seems better again I almost only hear the sound of blowing air now. Will try tonight if this really is better.
But to be short I tested blue-tac, rubber mounts and now cork. If this does not work I will need a different approach with hush box or splitting 
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redfox001
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So you guys are right she is very quiet! The cork really did something about a resonance but when I put the plastic cover on man I almost didn't hear her anymore! That is something I had not expected to be so much influence. Stupid of cause 
This has been a long road discovering the Cine Max but indeed in this way I don't feel much need to make a hushbox.
Have to fiks that remote cover thing 
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| ElTopo wrote: | Most beautiful CRT projector ever made !
Congrats. |
Looks better in black, but its no match for the style of the RUNCO modded XG
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CasetheCorvetteman
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You wont need a box, the cover does make a difference. I didnt realise you were running it with the cover off!!
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ElTopo
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Mine is dark blue glossy 
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redfox001
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | You wont need a box, the cover does make a difference. I didnt realise you were running it with the cover off!! |
You are right. When I sit right under it it is very quiet and it seems I don't need a box indeed. I was running without the cover because I very much like the metal  I wanted to take of the remaining plastic too. Now in fact I am still thinking about a box to replace the plastic. But there is no hurry. Moving on to the next steps. With optical focussing and sheimplug with mechanical setup the image is pretty sharp already also in the corners. Now I have to work on the electronics but as I can totally enjoy movies right now I will take some time to do something else
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By the way I used a cord spanned from the middle of the screen to the same place on the backwall measured along the back wall and screen. Now I used this rope to find the middle and the angle the Max has to project with the help of a weigth on a little rope hanging from the long rope. The little rope had to be exactly in the middle of the beamer front and back. This seemed to work better than spanning ropes from the corners of the screen to the corners of the beamer.
With the sheimpflug I defocused the lens and adjusted the sheimplug until the defocussed part top and bottom where the same width. I also took care the beamer was level but it seems with the sheimplug you can compensate for that a little.
Can I improve on this optical setup?
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ElTopo
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What about using a laser with a cross on a tripod ?
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redfox001
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| ElTopo wrote: | | What about using a laser with a cross on a tripod ? |
That is an idea! I do have one. I tried putting it on top of the Max but than the cross was to high. But with a tripod is a better idea.
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redfox001
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | ElTopo wrote: | Most beautiful CRT projector ever made !
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Looks better in black, but its no match for the style of the RUNCO modded XG
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I had this runco 933 projector a few years ago. It was not very sharp but the colors where great and I enjoyed it a long time. But now there is a new king! Even more quiet
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It shouldve been sharp enough!!
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redfox001
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Think the geometry is about right! My screen is a little smaller than 16/9. The optical focus seemed also about right. I think judging by the color difference between the vertical and horizontal one pixel pattern the bandwith is not too bad. I mean the vertical is lighter than the surrounding boxes. Also my camera (handheld iphone) adds a lot of noise. Will try a different camera same pic soon! Comments are welkom. Do you see ghosting? I have to check in real life if all these black boxes are realy that black than my brightness has to be adjusted but I will do a complete grayscale in time later.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Convergence will need abit of work to be perfect, although it could be the camera.
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redfox001
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Ye you are right also I get that these very sharp pictures from you and Francisco are because of the astig and focus. A lot of work has to be done on that area But what an amazing machine, it is already very sharp and could be even sharper with scanlines in these little numbers.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Even just making the convergence correct will improve sharpness alot.
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