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digitalayon
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:55 am Post subject: |
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i never claimed to be a pro....I am a tinkerer more than anything. I did lots of research on which units to look for before getting into this 7 years back. Some brands I have learned to shy away from. Ampro is one of them. Panasonic is another. Always problems and less parts available when compared to other units like Barco.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| digitalayon wrote: |
I seen those....dark suckers....very low lumens. I think there was only 1 good ampro ever. Rest are all trash. |
Yet you just made comments like this above... Both of which were nonsense 
Research can get you any result you want it to. 
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Barco Cine 9, ,Sony VPL570ES 4K SXRD, 135" OZ Theatre Majestic 16:9 screen, Denon X6700in preamp mode, 2x 7ch Tonewinner amps, 2x Tonewinner 15" subs, 2x 10" subs, 7.2.6...
RUNCO DTV991 LC ( NEC XG 852 LC ) 100" 4:3 screen, H/K AVR 7.1...
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macgyver655
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| digitalayon wrote: | | Some brands I have learned to shy away from. Ampro is one of them. Panasonic is another. Always problems and less parts available when compared to other units like Barco. |
So let that be a lesson for you to not always believe what you read on the internet.
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digitalayon
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | digitalayon wrote: |
I seen those....dark suckers....very low lumens. I think there was only 1 good ampro ever. Rest are all trash. |
Yet you just made comments like this above... Both of which were nonsense
Research can get you any result you want it to. |
OK...what is the lumens rating on that Sony?
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| digitalayon wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | digitalayon wrote: |
I seen those....dark suckers....very low lumens. I think there was only 1 good ampro ever. Rest are all trash. |
Yet you just made comments like this above... Both of which were nonsense
Research can get you any result you want it to. |
OK...what is the lumens rating on that Sony? |
Its rated at 700 lumens i think, but who cares what its factory rating is? They are EASILY bright enough. If youre going by factory ratings, youre missing the facts. I mustve been using mine for 8 years of more now, its plenty bright enough, not much difference in brightness between a 1001/1044 and a PG PLUS or PG Plain.
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RUNCO DTV991 LC ( NEC XG 852 LC ) 100" 4:3 screen, H/K AVR 7.1...
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digitalayon
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:31 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: |
Its rated at 700 lumens i think, but who cares what its factory rating is? |
Me  I'm a picky bastard!! 
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ecrabb
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| digitalayon wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: |
Its rated at 700 lumens i think, but who cares what its factory rating is? |
Me I'm a picky bastard!! |
You can be picky all you want; the problem is those ratings are all BS unless you know exactly what the rating refers to. Just like how all the digital manufactures exaggerate their on/off contrast levels now, the manufacturers exaggerated the crap out of their brightness ratings back in the CRT days. Brightness? At what color temp? 6500? 7500? ANSI? Peak brightness? Full-field brightness?
That old Sony may have been rated at 700 lumens, but once calibrated to 6500k, it probably wasn't even 150 lumens. Even newer calibrated 9-inch machines only making about 300-350 lumens, which is good for around 12-14fL max on an 8-foot wide 1.3-gain screen. That's why you need a stack to do much over an 8-foot screen with a CRT.
Even digitals are "over-rated" since nobody uses them that way for home theater. At 9500k in high-lamp mode, a lot of digitals are pushing 1000 lumens. But, crank the color temp down to 6500k, set the lamp to eco mode for better blacks, set the gamma, zoom the lens in a little, and you're often in the 500 lumen ballpark. Way brighter than CRT, which is why a lot of digital guys are going with 10-foot wide scope screens, but still not even remotely anything like what the projector is "rated".
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