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Spanky Ham
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| ecrabb wrote: | All the reasons you gave where what drove me to build my theater in the first place. Same stuff most people list, except you left out rude people, crappy seats, and crappy sound.
I make it to a commercial theater less than once a year. The few times I've been since I built my own theater, it was because some friends wanted to go see a much-anticipated scifi blockbuster like Star Trek, Tron Legacy, The Avengers, etc. on release day. Recently, it's only because there's a new movie the kids want to see while their friends are seeing it. The last time I was in a commercial theater was The Avengers, I think - so what, a year and a half ago? Don't really miss it.
I'll just add one thing… For me, sound quality is even more important than picture quality. I'd rather have a smaller, lesser display with awesome sound than the best projection-based display with ho-hum sound.
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I am just the opposite. I would rather have mediocre sound with excellent picture quality.
What theaters do you go to? I usually try to steer my friends to a theater with a good sound system. I have been wanting to try out the Dolby Atmos system to see if it is any good.
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havent been to a theatre in more than 10 years, and am not sure what was the last movie I went to see...got my 1st CRT in 2002 and closest (small) theatre is 30miles from me. also, since I got kids and wifey works many nights I just dont have time to go...so much easier to just watch at home, no annoying ppl with cell phones or telling what happens next two seats over.
actually havent turned on my barco since last may, had an accident in the house and its a mess for now, looks like the worst hoarder places in telly but hope soon i get it fixed.
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | | ecrabb wrote: | All the reasons you gave where what drove me to build my theater in the first place. Same stuff most people list, except you left out rude people, crappy seats, and crappy sound.
I make it to a commercial theater less than once a year. The few times I've been since I built my own theater, it was because some friends wanted to go see a much-anticipated scifi blockbuster like Star Trek, Tron Legacy, The Avengers, etc. on release day. Recently, it's only because there's a new movie the kids want to see while their friends are seeing it. The last time I was in a commercial theater was The Avengers, I think - so what, a year and a half ago? Don't really miss it.
I'll just add one thing… For me, sound quality is even more important than picture quality. I'd rather have a smaller, lesser display with awesome sound than the best projection-based display with ho-hum sound.
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I am just the opposite. I would rather have mediocre sound with excellent picture quality.
What theaters do you go to? I usually try to steer my friends to a theater with a good sound system. I have been wanting to try out the Dolby Atmos system to see if it is any good. |
I'm with you hammy!!
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ecrabb
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| digitalayon wrote: | | Spanky Ham wrote: | I am just the opposite. I would rather have mediocre sound with excellent picture quality.
What theaters do you go to? I usually try to steer my friends to a theater with a good sound system. I have been wanting to try out the Dolby Atmos system to see if it is any good. |
I'm with you hammy!! |
Really?! Interesting. My general opinion is that anybody can slap a big TV on the wall. Anybody can walk into an appliance store and buy an LCD or DLP projector, and for under $1500 have a really great picture in a few hours of work. Even back in the old days, a big Pioneer or Mits RPTV, write a check, calibrate it, and you have a great picture.
But, what really separates the men from the boys, and what's certainly not easy (or cheap) to achieve is really good sound. Speaker and amp selection and positioning, equipment selection and configuration, seating position, room treatments. It's expensive, and difficult, to get great sound in a room. Even if you go cheaper, older, used gear, it takes a lot of expertise to make it all work and sound great.
If I had to pick between trading my projector, or my sound setup, for an entry-level version of either, I'd trade the projector in a heartbeat. I'd be WAY happier with my current audio setup and and Epson 8350 or perhaps the Mits DLP that Spanky posted about, than with my JVC and a $1000 home theater in a box audio setup. I spent years putting together my audio setup, and it kicks ass. The projector is just the projector.
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| ecrabb wrote: | The projector is just the projector.
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I hear that from digital owners all the time......
 (JK)
I am in the other camp as well, I hate watching a movie with a poor image- no matter how good the sound is. It has been a long time since I visited a theatre with notably bad sound, but a poor image distracts me from the whole point of watching the movie. That being said, my impression is that most people can critique an image far better than an audio set-up.
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Bad picture drives me to drink. Say, I guess a crappy picture isn't so bad after the 7th rum n coke
I built a really nice audio setup too, dropped a ton of cash in the late 90's/early 2000's on it. Used it for a few years and then got into CRT and never got back to the audio setup. Now I own MANY pairs of headphones.
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Spanky Ham
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AR,
I think we followed the same pattern. I was obsessed with audio around that time. I did a 1k mile round trip in one day to NJ of all places to pick up a pair of PSB Stratus Golds. Loved them. I still have my ADA amp and Marantz processor.
That being said, I don't think it is as hard as Steve is making it out to be to have really good sound. I always remember Curt going to Darinp's place and demoing his setup. I remember Curt being surprised when the lights went on that he was using inexpensive Sony speakers and it sounded so good (Curt correct me if I am wrong). I think the real trick and something I haven't really seen anyone do around here is to design or adapt your own crossovers. Designing is a hobby unto its own, but modifying an existing design isn't that big of a deal.
Of course, I am not really into music anymore, so a HT sound system to me is easier than a good audio sound system.
Also while it is true that any old knucklehead can buy a pj and have a big screen, you would be surprised at how few people I run into that actually have a pj/big screen. To me, big screen pjs are still a unique experience.
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CIR Engineering
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| jask wrote: | | ecrabb wrote: | The projector is just the projector.
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I hear that from digital owners all the time......
(JK)
I am in the other camp as well, I hate watching a movie with a poor image- no matter how good the sound is. It has been a long time since I visited a theatre with notably bad sound, but a poor image distracts me from the whole point of watching the movie. That being said, my impression is that most people can critique an image far better than an audio set-up. |
I agree. There's a reason why we say seeing is believing; not hearing 
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | AR,
I think we followed the same pattern. I was obsessed with audio around that time. I did a 1k mile round trip in one day to NJ of all places to pick up a pair of PSB Stratus Golds. Loved them. I still have my ADA amp and Marantz processor.
That being said, I don't think it is as hard as Steve is making it out to be to have really good sound. I always remember Curt going to Darinp's place and demoing his setup. I remember Curt being surprised when the lights went on that he was using inexpensive Sony speakers and it sounded so good (Curt correct me if I am wrong). I think the real trick and something I haven't really seen anyone do around here is to design or adapt your own crossovers. Designing is a hobby unto its own, but modifying an existing design isn't that big of a deal.
Of course, I am not really into music anymore, so a HT sound system to me is easier than a good audio sound system.
Also while it is true that any old knucklehead can buy a pj and have a big screen, you would be surprised at how few people I run into that actually have a pj/big screen. To me, big screen pjs are still a unique experience. |
I got into the Paradigm Monitor series, a couple of subs, Marantz amps, lots of vinyl etc... I was in my see it want it buy it phase. Man, my 20's were great! I miss that system.
Of course now, for what I spent on that system you could finish an entire theater - projector included. My how cheap things have become ( quality wise too )
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ecrabb
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| CIR Engineering wrote: | | jask wrote: | | ecrabb wrote: | The projector is just the projector.
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I hear that from digital owners all the time......
(JK)
I am in the other camp as well, I hate watching a movie with a poor image- no matter how good the sound is. It has been a long time since I visited a theatre with notably bad sound, but a poor image distracts me from the whole point of watching the movie. That being said, my impression is that most people can critique an image far better than an audio set-up. |
I agree. There's a reason why we say seeing is believing; not hearing |
I feel like I need to clarify because that was obviously an over-siimplication on my part. So, let me see if I can articulate.
First, I don't mean to say I'd like to watch a "poor" or even "sub-par" image. On the contrary, I'm pretty high-up on the anal-retentive scale for image quality. I got into CRT in the first place not just because of the price, but because it just looked better, actually far superior, to any digital at the time. I've been into photography and video (making it) my whole life, so I know image quality.
That said, I look at it this way: I would never just sit and watch a video program without sound. Sound is very much a critical part of the home theater experience, and without sound, the best picture in the world is… Boring. On the other hand, I would absolutely sit and listen to music without a picture. The Dave Matthews or Roger Waters Blu-rays sound amazing even if the projector isn't on. I can close my eyes, and be enveloped in sound and feel like I'm at a concert. I can't sit and watch a concert video or a movie and enjoy watching it with no sound. Hearing actually is believing.
To Spanky's point, good sound is indeed fairly easy to achieve, but great sound definitely is not. Really good imaging, immersion, low distortion, flat frequency response, and great extension and dynamics isn't something you can just throw together in an afternoon of shopping at Best Buy. When you do get it right though, you can really blow people's minds. My room isn't even close to the scale of a lot of rooms like Art Sonneborn's, or even Cliff's, but it's still amazing compared to what probably 95% of the population has ever heard.
OTOH, my display, while very, very good (especially for what I paid for it) really isn't THAT much better than an entry-level Epson 8350. To me it is, and to most of us here it is, but if you took 'normal' people, and put them in my room, whether the projector was an Epson 8350 or my JVC, they'd be blown away, but not by the picture - it would be the sound. They'd hear music like they may not have ever heard it before.
I think of it this way: I didn't have to explain and point out aspects of the sound quality for my mother-in-law to be amazed. She instinctively knew it sounded better than anything she'd probably ever heard. OTOH, while she knew the image looked nice, I had to point out to her why it looked good, and I have no doubt she would have also thought an Epson looked great. When I had some friends over to experience my theater, even back when I had the G70, it wasn't the picture quality that blew them away, it was that the Blue Man Group played at levels that truly sounded and made them feel like they were at a concert.
As for cost, a grand will get you a damn good projector these days; one a lot of us would be happy watching. Maybe not for critical viewing, but easily for "daily driver" stuff. Two grand and some change will get you a really excellent projector. For a "damn good" audio setup, a grand is barely getting you started. That's a decent mid-range receiver, a basic sub, and that's about it. Never mind the mains, surrounds, or a really good subwoofer.
I think we all tend to undervalue a lot of the audio gear we've been collecting, and don't think about how much it would cost to buy it all from scratch. Personally, I've probably got around double the money invested in prepro, amps, speakers, subs, and acoustic treatments compared to what I have in my projector. Maybe not quite double, but close. I know a lot of other people in the same boat, too. Heck, if instead of building subs, I had purchased comparable commercial subs, it would be well over double the projector.
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Well articulated. Now why are YOU up at 1:30am?
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| AnalogRocks wrote: | | Well articulated. Now why are YOU up at 1:30am? |
Procrastinating on a project, writing a giant post on the forum finishing a movie on Sundance.
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I have not been to the theater in a long time either. ,MAN OF STEEL had to have been the last. I would have gone to go and see THE WOLF OF WALLSTREET (which was excellent by the way) but someone gave me a pirated screener. Sorry Hollywood  Before those, I distinctly remember seeing two 35MM showings of RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK and THE MASTER.
CRT projection literally changed the way I look at film and watched movies forever. Thanks Curt 
If it was something I really wanted to see or some kind of special venue (i.e. DARK KNIGHT RISES), I would totally go out. It just needs to have that extra umph! The projection quality would still be under critique of course..
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| ecrabb wrote: | I feel like I need to clarify because that was obviously an over-siimplication on my part. So, let me see if I can articulate.
First, I don't mean to say I'd like to watch a "poor" or even "sub-par" image. On the contrary, I'm pretty high-up on the anal-retentive scale for image quality. I got into CRT in the first place not just because of the price, but because it just looked better, actually far superior, to any digital at the time. I've been into photography and video (making it) my whole life, so I know image quality.
That said, I look at it this way: I would never just sit and watch a video program without sound. Sound is very much a critical part of the home theater experience, and without sound, the best picture in the world is… Boring. On the other hand, I would absolutely sit and listen to music without a picture. The Dave Matthews or Roger Waters Blu-rays sound amazing even if the projector isn't on. I can close my eyes, and be enveloped in sound and feel like I'm at a concert. I can't sit and watch a concert video or a movie and enjoy watching it with no sound. Hearing actually is believing.
To Spanky's point, good sound is indeed fairly easy to achieve, but great sound definitely is not. Really good imaging, immersion, low distortion, flat frequency response, and great extension and dynamics isn't something you can just throw together in an afternoon of shopping at Best Buy. When you do get it right though, you can really blow people's minds. My room isn't even close to the scale of a lot of rooms like Art Sonneborn's, or even Cliff's, but it's still amazing compared to what probably 95% of the population has ever heard.
OTOH, my display, while very, very good (especially for what I paid for it) really isn't THAT much better than an entry-level Epson 8350. To me it is, and to most of us here it is, but if you took 'normal' people, and put them in my room, whether the projector was an Epson 8350 or my JVC, they'd be blown away, but not by the picture - it would be the sound. They'd hear music like they may not have ever heard it before.
I think of it this way: I didn't have to explain and point out aspects of the sound quality for my mother-in-law to be amazed. She instinctively knew it sounded better than anything she'd probably ever heard. OTOH, while she knew the image looked nice, I had to point out to her why it looked good, and I have no doubt she would have also thought an Epson looked great. When I had some friends over to experience my theater, even back when I had the G70, it wasn't the picture quality that blew them away, it was that the Blue Man Group played at levels that truly sounded and made them feel like they were at a concert.
As for cost, a grand will get you a damn good projector these days; one a lot of us would be happy watching. Maybe not for critical viewing, but easily for "daily driver" stuff. Two grand and some change will get you a really excellent projector. For a "damn good" audio setup, a grand is barely getting you started. That's a decent mid-range receiver, a basic sub, and that's about it. Never mind the mains, surrounds, or a really good subwoofer.
I think we all tend to undervalue a lot of the audio gear we've been collecting, and don't think about how much it would cost to buy it all from scratch. Personally, I've probably got around double the money invested in prepro, amps, speakers, subs, and acoustic treatments compared to what I have in my projector. Maybe not quite double, but close. I know a lot of other people in the same boat, too. Heck, if instead of building subs, I had purchased comparable commercial subs, it would be well over double the projector.
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In all seriousness I mostly agree. It's part of how our minds work. There have been many studies that have determined it's easy for a human to watch a program with good sound and a poor picture, but if you give lousy sound to a good picture people will turn away quickly.
Think back to analog over the air TV. If the picture was snowy, had lines, or any other video issues it was still totally watchable. However, if the sound was bouncing back and forth between static and audible you would have quickly changed the channel.
I like working with video more than audio now because video is more easily quantifiable than audio. For the most part video is either correct or wrong across an array of measurable parameters. With audio, things can measure nicely but sound terrible.
If I think about retail cost of all the audio equipment in my room I shudder 
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Think back to analog over the air TV. If the picture was snowy, had lines, or any other video issues it was still totally watchable. However, if the sound was bouncing back and forth between static and audible you would have quickly changed the channel.
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The very reason I hate trying to watch D!gital TV out in the boonies. At least with analog you still had sound. With digital stut,stut, st..utering it's unwatchable (unlistenable).
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In all seriousness I mostly agree. It's part of how our minds work. There have been many studies that have determined it's easy for a human to watch a program with good sound and a poor picture, but if you give lousy sound to a good picture people will turn away quickly.
Think back to analog over the air TV. If the picture was snowy, had lines, or any other video issues it was still totally watchable. However, if the sound was bouncing back and forth between static and audible you would have quickly changed the channel.
I like working with video more than audio now because video is more easily quantifiable than audio. For the most part video is either correct or wrong across an array of measurable parameters. With audio, things can measure nicely but sound terrible. |
I remember having this discussion with Darinp. He was of the same mind. You could quantify it and see how to improve it. Audio is so subjective to a great degree that it didn't give the same satisfaction.
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I look at your signature and shudder. You must be the most well equipped man in calibration. 
Be prepared for a drive by. Curt and I have already discussed it. 
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | I look at your signature and shudder. You must be the most well equipped man in calibration.
Be prepared for a drive by. Curt and I have already discussed it. |
All right, I'll keep the Kevlar on
Last time was fun so I am definitely game.
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There's the sticky floors and strange smells . All part of the theatre experience
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The last movie I saw in a theatre was Fellowship of the Ring (Imax -enjoyed it a lot), but it was paid for by work as a last hurrah before we were bought out an given our walking papers... last time I paid to see a movie?.. Star Trek Nemesis along with the 3 a$$holes with laser pointers, the guy behind me that sneezed on my head (granted he did apologize) and the person at the end of the row with the shaking leg that vibrated the whole row. I'm rememebering now why I haven't paid to see a movie since. I absolutely hate how loud they play movies at theatres or I guess I should say "used to" since I have no idea what it's like now. Probably what's always turned me off wanting a "great setup". Every single time someone gets new home theatre stuff they crank up the volume thinking I'll be all the more impressed or something. Kinda self defeating when I clamp my hands over my ears. Everyone always has too much bass too. Nothing drives me nuts more than an ear shattering action scene with explosions and gun fire, just to go immediately to a quiet speaking scene and I can't hear the dialogue over what's going on around the characters. I'll assume it's because people think more bass is better or is that how stuff is really supposed to sound?
I'm on the fence. I can be immersed in an HD undersea show with no sound, but yeah, I'd be VERY interested to listen to what people would call a great concert on blu-ray with an amazing setup (with proper bass balance) and see if it would make me more interested in being more of an audiophile. My PSB's are supposedly better than average (for that price point @ $2,750) and sound great to me, but I wouldn't know any better. I wouldn't mind a better receiver, but wouldn't know where to start. I've always had pioneer, but I'm sure it's pretty far off the mark for what any of you would consider good. Now that it's like 7 years old it probably can't utilize what's on discs to their full potential either. Don't get me started on that silly hdmi handshake issue of the time.
On the other side I get to watching a movie where I notice the convergence is off by a tiny bit in a corner and it drives me mental. I've actually paused a movie with several guests in the room so I could tweak it so I would stop fidgetting.
Wow, sorry it's a bit "ranty", but that's how I feel about it. Maybe if I paid more attention to sound I might hear my wife more often...
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I just wanted to side with crabb on his opinion that he would keep his sound system over his display device any day. I am 100% the same way.
Anyone can pick up a great looking display device these days for a good reasonable price. Getting truly exceptional sound is a very daunting and time consuming task. I have had more "Nice" digital projectors pass by me than good speakers, amps, etc... will ever pass by me.
Besides, its the sound that scares the sh*t outta you when you're watching a good scary movie, not the video!
And to respond to an earlier post on page one, someone mentioned that some theaters still use film, which may be true, for the time being, but I'm sure some of you know that any and all theaters that still use film must convert to digital by sometime this year (I forget when exactly). Kind of sad, but in the end I think it will be for the best. I honestly have to say that the Christie film projectors my theater in town here used to use, were shot and worn out to hell. the film looked so terrible I stopped going to the theater until I heard they had gotten a digital in one of the 2 stadium seated theaters. (yes that's a big thing around here, the movies is all this town has sadly)
And I absolutely REFUSE to pay $12 for concessions when I can have the SAME EXACT stuff here for $4 ALL NIGHT!! That is probably what pisses me off most about the theater; knowing they are ripping you off on your popcorn and soda!
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