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ecrabb · Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:00 am Post subject:

A few pics from the Prysm booth at Infocomm '13 last summer.

Pretty cool stuff. The closeup shot is pretty much how it looked if you stuck your face right up to it. Reminded me very much of a Sony Trinitron circa 1989.

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Spanky Ham · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central

Mr Green,
I am not going anywhere. I have met a bunch of guys on here and like hanging out on this forum.

digitalayon · Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Posts: 921

Spanky Ham · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central

Ok, you were talking about the tube plant in La. I thought you might have meant VDC itself.

Spanky Ham · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central

Got to confess that I am seriously considering grabbing a Mits 7900. For $799, it seems like a bargain. I am not a big cheap dlp fan, but for that price....
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/998615-REG/mitsubishi_hc7900dw_home_theater_3d.html

digitalayon · Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Posts: 921

HogPilot · Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:45 pm Post subject:

digitalayon · Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Posts: 921

Good price there.....DLP though is my enemy!!! They do not use our polarizers. With that said, this pattern seems to be growing with the guys that do not have a 9 inch model. But I cannot blame you. If I had a 8 or 7 inch, I at this point would not be upgrading to another CRT unless it was practically handed to me like the VV1 was.

ecrabb · Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:37 pm Post subject:

digitalayon · Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Posts: 921

Oh I totally agree....I saw a 9500 LC ultra last week for 400 bucks. Was too far for me to drive so I told Nash.....he said was too far and would tell Justin. go figure!

Spanky Ham · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central

Hog,
I have been looking at pjreviews and htmag. The latter has a review of the 7800 and 8000, but not the 7900. Slight differences between the models. At Cedia two years ago, a couple of us thought Mits had the best 3d image of any of the affordable pjs. I don't remember if I looked at any 3 chip dlps at the show with 3d. I read where one guy over at AVS has a JVC for some movies and uses his Benq(?) for everything else

Steve is absolutely correct and I have spoken with Craig and others about this as well. I don't have a dedicated theater. I am going to use my living room in my apartment (if I ever finish it). With all I have done (and am still doing), the CRT is not going on the ceiling. Period! It isn't even open for discussion. As Steve also mentioned, I have two G90s. I bought the second one before Cedia last year. There are another two G70s in storage as well.

So here is what I am looking at the CRT either goes in a coffee table in front of the couch or in a box behind the couch. With the former, I think I guesstimated that I would have a screen of about 60 inches wide. Honestly, I am not sure I would be able to tell the difference between the G70 and G90 on that size of a screen from a seating distance of 12' (?). Behind the couch means building a box to point the pj vertically to hit a mirror and then onto the screen. That puts the screen in the range of 120" wide or so. Way to big for a CRT. I could bring the size down and use less phosphor, but how much?. Maybe 100"? Has anyone tested to see how small you can make an usable image on tube? I could also use a High Power screen to get the brightness back up in this config. In the end, is it worth it? If I do it, then I married to this set up for awhile (2 years?).

On the flip side, digital had to go and tell me about the new light source that should be coming to a JVC near you next year. I am not sure I would want to buy a first gen unit, so we are really talking two years. Of course, this would be moot if I saw a RS45 going for $1200. Smile

Never get out of the boat unless you are going all the way!

HogPilot · Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:17 pm Post subject:

Spanky,

If you already have the other projectors, what about the Mits is tempting you to buy it? It seems that the advantage over your G90 would be brightness, lower noise floor, smaller footprint, ease of setup/maintenance, and the ability to have a larger screen without adding mirrors. Mitsubishi bulb life seems to be unusually long as well, in the 3K-6K hour range (this is based on anecdotal info from various Mits threads on AVS).

If none of these things above are factors, I'd say stick with the G90.

Spanky Ham · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central

Hog,
You answered your own question. Smile

It is all of those factors. I love CRT and my heart is saying stick with it, but logically I should probably move on. The difference between Crabb's decision and my decision is I already have the G90s. If I just had the G70s, then I would have already bought a digital. Hell, I could be watching it now against my unfinished wall. Wink

One other factor you have to put in there is the pj box. If I do it, then it has to be done right. I am not having some ugly unpainted half plywood and half particle board monstrosity in the living room.

ecrabb · Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:02 pm Post subject:

Dude, a 60-inch screen is worthless. You might as well just go get an LCD at that point. You've got two G90's… You've got a whole sofa's worth of width… Just double the size of the box, make it essentially a big sofa table, stack two G90's, and light up that 10-foot wide screen. Wink

Not sure about the box behind the couch. It's totally possible, and might even be possible to make it look nice, but then you'll have a G90 a foot from your head, with a mirror bouncing the sound right out over your head. I think a box and mirror sounds like a giant pain in the ass myself, and not right throw/screen size for CRT unless you stack, really.

Seriously, the more you talk about your room, the less it seems to make sense to put a big CRT projector in there. Given the space, the throw restriction, and how you plan to use it (mixed use). Seems like you're trying to talk yourself into something. You need to decide if you want to go to the trouble of going CRT or just go easy and go digital. Once you decide, then you work out the details for either.

The box sounds like a giant pain in the ass, so here's an idea that I think might be pretty cool if you want to stick with CRT for a few more years: I was sort of half-serious about the loft thing. What about a cool-looking, 2" square-tube steel frame, C-shaped. Blued Room and Board-style steel. The base goes under the couch, and the vertical goes up the wall, with the projector near the ceiling. It's all free-standing, so nothing in the walls or ceiling. Easily removed in a few years. With the butt of the projector close to the wall, it sounds like the throw might work out about right for a 7.5-8-foot wide screen. You could even design in some cool down-lighting for over the couch for readying while you watch tube. If you can't do it your self, somebody could weld that up in an afternoon, and you could easily paint or blue it. It would take a little engineering, but I'd be happy to help you design it. Could be neat - like a piece of furniture or sculpture. A feature.

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HogPilot · Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:14 pm Post subject:

I agree with crabb regarding the 60" screen - I was looking at my 60" 9G Kuro last night as I was reading your post and found myself wondering if I'd go to the trouble of installing a PJ for that image size when it's so easily obtainable with a flat screen TV. Sure, black levels won't match those of a CRT, but unlike a CRT it won't take up any space in your room, it will be completely watchable day or night, and it will be completely quiet.

I think crabb's welded steel C-frame sounds like a cool idea and probably your best bet if you really want to use the G90 for a projector-based setup. If convenience and ease of setup are your primary factors, I say just jump on the Mits and - say it with me - set it and forget it Smile

I think you'll find yourself loving the crispness and brightness of a DLP image, even if it can't touch your G90's black levels.

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:23 pm Post subject:

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:07 pm Post subject:

Of course none of us know what the eff we're talking about. Clearly DJ Dee knoweth of what he speaks of here:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1515761/crt-ceiling-projectors-still-the-bomb-with-hd

you'll notice my restrained response. What the heck was wrong with me yesterday? Very Happy

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:08 pm Post subject:

He sounds like the Siamese cat from Lady and the Tramp. He no not what him talking about.

**Curt Palme** · Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:46 pm Post subject:

Funny, and stuff like that used to rile me up bigtime. Now I just don't care any more.

HogPilot · Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:55 pm Post subject: