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Spanky Ham



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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:15 am    Post subject:

Go read Kal's new and improved Calibration article before purchasing any measurement devices:



Link: https://www.curtpalme.com/forum_archived/viewtopic.php@t=35322.html
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MyCrtFellOnMe



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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:00 am    Post subject:

Thanks, I'll give that thread a reading first.

Anybody ever have to take down a projector from the ceiling? Me and my friend are racking our brains trying to figure the safest way to get it down without some sort of accident.
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:02 am    Post subject:

Do you have a finished ceiling or not
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:06 am    Post subject:

MyCrtFellOnMe wrote:
Anybody ever have to take down a projector from the ceiling? Me and my friend are racking our brains trying to figure the safest way to get it down without some sort of accident.


Anyone else find this statement a bit ominous given this user's forum name?

(If you want, I can change it for you before something bad happens!) Wink

Back on topic, this is how I got my last one up and down myself without any help:



Basically 4 chains with some carabiners. Do one corner at a time which makes it easy to lift by yourself.

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:12 am    Post subject:

My friend Tom came up with the idea of using a 20 dollar boat winch from Lowes to lower my G70 and raise my G90. We put eyebolts in the pj's and looped it all through. It worked like a charm. But he is a whiz kid so theres that...
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:38 am    Post subject:

2 guys, 2 ladders. Easy peasy. take off the lenses to take 45 lbs off the set.
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ecrabb
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:41 am    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
2 guys, 2 ladders. Easy peasy. take off the lenses to take 45 lbs off the set.

Yep. That's how I did both of my machines. Installing and deinstalling the 12xx was easy, and installing the G70 wasn't bad, either - especially with the lenses removed. We just had the G70 on a tall table so we were only lifting it from stomach-height to the ceiling. Each had a step-ladder. I'm a pretty big guy, but my buddy is pretty small.

Taking the G70 down was a bit worse. A) I forgot to take the lenses off, B) I had a noob (the buyer) who was helping me take it down, and he didn't quite understand how it came off the mount, and C) I was sweaty and things got slippery. We got stuck with one side on and one side off… I couldn't get my side back on and I had a bit of a scramble for help. Ended up getting down OK, though.

If you can put it on a table or milk crates or something so you're not lifting it all the way from the floor. Use some tight-fitting work gloves. Each on a step-ladder. A third person who can spot and/or help if you get in trouble isn't a bad idea, either.

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:20 am    Post subject:

A drywall lift would probably be the easiest way.
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:12 am    Post subject:

A transmission jack is the easiest way, unless the projector is more than 500kgs, which its not Laughing
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:51 pm    Post subject:

Spanky Ham wrote:
A drywall lift would probably be the easiest way.

Yes, if you disregard the hassle of getting and moving a drywall lift in and out of a house or basement… As if the projector isn't enough of a PITA already.

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
A transmission jack is the easiest way, unless the projector is more than 500kgs, which its not Laughing

Yeah, because everybody just has a pristine transmission jack with nice, clean wheels just laying around. Wink

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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:44 pm    Post subject:

for me Telekinesis proved to the easiest and fastest way, but I understand this option might not be available to everyone.
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Spanky Ham



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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:46 am    Post subject:

ecrabb wrote:
Spanky Ham wrote:
A drywall lift would probably be the easiest way.

Yes, if you disregard the hassle of getting and moving a drywall lift in and out of a house or basement… As if the projector isn't enough of a PITA already.


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Mine folds up and comes apart. Not that big of a hassle at all.
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:16 am    Post subject:

Update: got it down with a few people's help, no casualties!
did initial factory reset and convergence and the image looks perfect, tube hours at 2818 hrs with no signs that I can see of wear yet.
This thing is a beast, I'll post pictures when I can later this week after some proper adjusting. Also snagged an HD Fury for $50 while I was picking up the projector today... forgot the power wire though, so I'll need to order one eventually.
For now, everything looks fantastic, but I'll keep a critical eye on things Cool

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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:42 am    Post subject:

cool beans !!!

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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:03 am    Post subject:

Nice!

If you want to get a good look at wear, you can just use a nice, bright flashlight to look right into the lenses. It takes a little bit of a dance finding the right angle to shine the light in, but you'll find it, and if there's wear, you'll see it around the perimeter where the contrast between unused phosphor and worn phosphor is most noticeable. Machine off, obviously.

Congrats!

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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:18 am    Post subject:

Here we go !
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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:34 am    Post subject:

Well me and some friends thought about it and decided to use the projector in a 14' long bedroom and build a hush box with a cushion on top in front of a futon couch. This was my Stereo listening room / bedroom, but decided once I won this auction it would be best to get a screen between my speakers! The project starts next week and hopefully I'll have a nice hush-box/foot rest to show for it.
any advice is welcome in regards to ventilating or constructing the box Smile

after this box is done then I have to make the tough decision. 4:3 or 16:9 screen. The room will be completely light controlled, so I wonder if on a 4:3 screen with 2.35:1 content I would really notice the top and bottom (assuming not too much light is bouncing around the walls and ceiling).
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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:46 am    Post subject:

Be aware that a floor-mounted CRT sits in the best viewing position. You'll have to sit on one side or the other. Or behind, but who wants to watch from that far away?

If you build a hushbox, there are (were?) really old threads at AVS detailing good ways to do it. Another option is to remove/reduce the fans and suck the hot air out using an exhaust fan in another room. There was a thread about that too. Haven't dug them up in years so I'm afraid I can't give you much better pointers than that. It was some French guy that posted most of the good ideas but I can't remember his name...
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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:32 am    Post subject:

garyfritz wrote:
Be aware that a floor-mounted CRT sits in the best viewing position. You'll have to sit on one side or the other. Or behind, but who wants to watch from that far away?

If you build a hushbox, there are (were?) really old threads at AVS detailing good ways to do it. Another option is to remove/reduce the fans and suck the hot air out using an exhaust fan in another room. There was a thread about that too. Haven't dug them up in years so I'm afraid I can't give you much better pointers than that. It was some French guy that posted most of the good ideas but I can't remember his name...


JohnHWman?
http://johnhwman.free.fr//index.html (click on: "La VMC" in the archive (G70) section)

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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:35 pm    Post subject:

That's the guy! Your memory is better than mine. (Which ain't sayin' much Laughing)

MyCrtFellOnMe, here's a translated link of JohnHWman's site. Look for the links on the left under "ARCHIVES - SONY VPH-G70." LOTS of detailed instruction on quieting and hushboxing the G70.

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnhwman.free.fr%2F%2Findex.html&act=url
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