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the big E
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| Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 5:38 am Post subject: Painting my marquee case |
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Ok guys I am going to be giving my marquees case panels a new coat of paint and was wanting some tips to pull it off as smooth as possible
Not sure which color I will paint it(currently matte black) but do I need to primer it first?
Used to painting cars and other metal stuff
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No primer needed. Just sand it a little bit and paint with a suitable paint. Sand any scratches smooth.
I wouldnt use matte black, id go up to satin black.
Long even strokes going past each end, no stopping or turning, get a light but even coating on, allow it to properly dry according to the instructions before next coat. Hold the can reasonably upright, at the distance specified on the can, and go at a pace to give light but even coverage, too heavy and itll take too long to dry, possibly run, and may even crack when it cures.
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the big E
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| Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Ok case thanks for clearing that up I hadn't painted something like this before and wanted to be sure before I started
If the top panel didn't have glycol damage to the paint it wouldn't be as bad but it does
Also the factory color is the matte black I was thinking of doing a gloss black or a bright color(not sure yet) I have plenty of time to make a color decision as I ain't going to paint it till spring as I want it to do it outside not in my shop or theater room(paint fumes)
I have had stuff crack from painting slow but have learned from my mistakes
So far my list is
Red
A gloss jet black
Gold
White
I am open to suggestions I did paint a laptop of mine gold once and it looked nice just not sure if it will suit my projector
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Be aware, that if you paint it with a glossy paint you will display your painting skills.. and that might not be the 1st thing you want everybody that look at it to notice.
Ill recomend a matte paint for DIY, if your not a very skilled spray painter.
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the big E
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| stridsvognen wrote: | Be aware, that if you paint it with a glossy paint you will display your painting skills.. and that might not be the 1st thing you want everybody that look at it to notice.
Ill recomend a matte paint for DIY, if your not a very skilled spray painter. |
I see
I have had that happen before
This won't be my first time but being cautious is better then making a mistake
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| the big E wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Be aware, that if you paint it with a glossy paint you will display your painting skills.. and that might not be the 1st thing you want everybody that look at it to notice.
Ill recomend a matte paint for DIY, if your not a very skilled spray painter. |
I see
I have had that happen before
This won't be my first time but being cautious is better then making a mistake |
I painted a few cars and stuff. And it takes some skills to make it look pro. And lots of atention to the primer, the surface needs to be perfect or it will show in the finished result.
Then there is orange surface.. or runners. Or dust/ dirt from the air that also looks.. well quite terrible.
Most of that you never notice in a matte paint, main reason is that you have no reflections.
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the big E
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | the big E wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Be aware, that if you paint it with a glossy paint you will display your painting skills.. and that might not be the 1st thing you want everybody that look at it to notice.
Ill recomend a matte paint for DIY, if your not a very skilled spray painter. |
I see
I have had that happen before
This won't be my first time but being cautious is better then making a mistake |
I painted a few cars and stuff. And it takes some skills to make it look pro. And lots of atention to the primer, the surface needs to be perfect or it will show in the finished result.
Then there is orange surface.. or runners. Or dust/ dirt from the air that also looks.. well quite terrible.
Most of that you never notice in a matte paint main reason is that you have no reflections. |
I got this same thing on my car that I debated painting myself
I am going to have a pro do the car as there no way I am screwing up with teal green black maybe teal green no way
I have plenty of time to prep before I do this would do it now but I am afraid the paint wouldn't cure and set in the cold temps
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stridsvognen
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| the big E wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | the big E wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Be aware, that if you paint it with a glossy paint you will display your painting skills.. and that might not be the 1st thing you want everybody that look at it to notice.
Ill recomend a matte paint for DIY, if your not a very skilled spray painter. |
I see
I have had that happen before
This won't be my first time but being cautious is better then making a mistake |
I painted a few cars and stuff. And it takes some skills to make it look pro. And lots of atention to the primer, the surface needs to be perfect or it will show in the finished result.
Then there is orange surface.. or runners. Or dust/ dirt from the air that also looks.. well quite terrible.
Most of that you never notice in a matte paint main reason is that you have no reflections. |
I got this same thing on my car that I debated painting myself
I am going to have a pro do the car as there no way I am screwing up with teal green black maybe teal green no way
I have plenty of time to prep before I do this would do it now but I am afraid the paint wouldn't cure and set in the cold temps |
You need a room with good heat ill say 20-25C at least, to spray paint, i think lower than 7C the hardener stops working if your using a 2 component paint... and will get your very own result, Special finish.
Im sure there is some DIY painting advises somewhere.. Its not impossible to do a ok job, just be prepared to start all over a few times.
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the big E
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| Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | the big E wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | the big E wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Be aware, that if you paint it with a glossy paint you will display your painting skills.. and that might not be the 1st thing you want everybody that look at it to notice.
Ill recomend a matte paint for DIY, if your not a very skilled spray painter. |
I see
I have had that happen before
This won't be my first time but being cautious is better then making a mistake |
I painted a few cars and stuff. And it takes some skills to make it look pro. And lots of atention to the primer, the surface needs to be perfect or it will show in the finished result.
Then there is orange surface.. or runners. Or dust/ dirt from the air that also looks.. well quite terrible.
Most of that you never notice in a matte paint main reason is that you have no reflections. |
I got this same thing on my car that I debated painting myself
I am going to have a pro do the car as there no way I am screwing up with teal green black maybe teal green no way
I have plenty of time to prep before I do this would do it now but I am afraid the paint wouldn't cure and set in the cold temps |
You need a room with good heat ill say 20-25C at least, to spray paint, i think lower than 7C the hardener stops working if your using a 2 component paint... and will get your very own result, Special finish.
Im sure there is some DIY painting advises somewhere.. Its not impossible to do a ok job, just be prepared to start all over a few times. |
Ok thanks when I get ready I have some spare case panels to practice with before I paint my projectors case panels
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You dont need to practice, just go ahead on the case. If it isnt perfect, give it a light sand and go again.
Use a plastic paint so it will stick properly and flex well enough.
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Yeah, I think a satin black would work really well. Flat hides stuff well, but it's also easily scuffed or marred. Gloss is distracting and would easily show any runs or inconsistency. Satin would be a nice, happy medium.
Personally, I'd prep well and prime… That's one of the keys to getting a nice, even, durable, professional finish. It takes very little extra work. Look it up on YouTube - there are lots of videos on spray-painting including priming and prep steps. Even with a couple of rattle cans, you can get a really nice finish if you do it right.
Also, if you prime, I don't think you'll need a special plastic paint… The plastic sides won't be "deforming", which is what you really need a flex-paint for, so all you need to do is make sure that the primer is safe for whatever plastic is on the Marquee.
Go watch some YouTube videos on spray painting - lots of pros sharing their knowledge, there.
Oh, by the way… Definitely wait until it's warm outside, or do it in a heated garage. I primed and painted the bottom portion of my garage door a few weeks ago at 20 or 30 degrees F, and it took me twice as long as it would have otherwise, because I had to spray really thin coats, and I went between coats with a heat gun to make it cure. It turned out nice, but it's extremely easy to put it on too thick and get a run.
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Case the top and rear of the case is metal just the sides are plastic
Nash ecrabb is right about satin black being easy to scuff the side panels have a few scuff marks on them from where the projector wasn't handled carefully during removal from the ceiling mount
Also I am going to wait till spring as it has been too cold for paint to work and me not have a heat gun
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the big E
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| Nashou66 wrote: | My Theater is so dark where the PJ's are you can't see a thing. Scuffs dont happen way up there 
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True but mine isn't ceiling mounted hence why I am wanting to paint it
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I was referring to scuffing with flat black - not satin. Flat is extremely damage-prone, and offers no way to repair it. You can't polish it because it goes glossy.
Satin (semi-gloss) should be pretty durable, and marring won't be as noticeable. Still can't polish it.
Glossy is best in terms of damage and repairability, as it can easily be polished or wet-sanded and polished. Of course, it also shows every little finger-print.
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| ecrabb wrote: | I was referring to scuffing with flat black - not satin. Flat is extremely damage-prone, and offers no way to repair it. You can't polish it because it goes glossy.
Satin (semi-gloss) should be pretty durable, and marring won't be as noticeable. Still can't polish it.
Glossy is best in terms of damage and repairability, as it can easily be polished or wet-sanded and polished. Of course, it also shows every little finger-print.
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Good to know the pros and cons of each type
When I did my laptop it was a matte gold finish and I had to be careful till it fully hardened
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I found out the gold paint I have is a matte finish(I guess that's why it took so long to harden)
I was thinking of a gloss red or any of the colors I listed in my other post
I recently did a to cart in Orange then did a clear coat over that after it cured and it turned out great just gets a lot of scratches on the underside of the floor pan (I didn't clear coat on the bottom of the floor pan due to only having one can of clear coat)
If I can I will post a pic of it(when I have time)
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