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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:09 am Post subject: |
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E, the H2 is a heap of sh*t in every sense of the word. The original military spec Hummer was a beast, the civilian versions that followed are just junk.
If i wanted a 4x4 vehicle, there is only a handful id bother with.
Starting here....
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPmpKeOvUxw
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the big E
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | E, the H2 is a heap of sh*t in every sense of the word. The original military spec Hummer was a beast, the civilian versions that followed are just junk.
If i wanted a 4x4 vehicle, there is only a handful id bother with.
Starting here....
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I didn't say anything about its off road abilities(it can do 95% what the h1 can do though not that it matters as most won't ever leave the pavement)
You and me both know the h1 is the off road king(I can close to getting one but I was afraid it would fit on my road  not that it mattered
Heck I only have seen one h2 that looked like it had been took off road
If you want a joke look at the h3(I can barely get in one for its size)
FYI my escalade is all wheel drive and is pretty capable off road
American SUVs aren't like they used to be in many ways(adaptive suspension systems among other stuff)
FYI the h1 was a rebadged army truck by am general(gm went with them to build the h2)
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Ill stick to the Unimog or a Tatra if im going offroad 
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the big E
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Ill stick to the Unimog or a Tatra if im going offroad |
I watched the video but half way through my iPhones battery died ( d'oh) impressive video
Most people here go with jeeps but the h1 is better then a jeep(sucks that used ones are still in the 40K price range though as most are low mileage)
Heck I get odd looks when I take my escalade off road but its fun as hell just wish gm had made the running boards easier to remove
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mx83toy
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You guys are funny all this off road talk and no one has mentioned the crowned king! Land Rover Defender...
Mrs didn't mind after the NEC being such a let down!!! she said i looked like a kid that just dropped his ice cream so she's ok with me bringing over this unit.... I'm going to start building the theater room soon so cant wait!!!
PS I like the NEC its just a PITA for bits...
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the big E
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| mx83toy wrote: | You guys are funny all this off road talk and no one has mentioned the crowned king! Land Rover Defender...
Mrs didn't mind after the NEC being such a let down!!! she said i looked like a kid that just dropped his ice cream so she's ok with me bringing over this unit.... I'm going to start building the theater room soon so cant wait!!!
PS I like the NEC its just a PITA for bits... |
Your talking to two back woods guys so go figure
Land rovers aren't as popular here in the states (hummer h1 is the off road king here)
About the projector I will email the shipping as soon as I can get to the truck dock
I was the same way with my nec
I can imagine the look on your face when you seen those tubes(I know how you felt)
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mx83toy
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i cant blame anyone but myself with the NEC as i bought it in as is unknown condition and paid 130 bucks... i figure if i junk it, the hd144's i pull of the front for my marquee, would almost make it worth the purchase.... I just hope that Marquee Matched with the 180's is as sharp as the xg with its unobtainable p16je's and wicked electronics. As long and its quieter than a helicopter i know it will definanly be quieter lol
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the big E
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| mx83toy wrote: | | i cant blame anyone but myself with the NEC as i bought it in as is unknown condition and paid 130 bucks... i figure if i junk it, the hd144's i pull of the front for my marquee, would almost make it worth the purchase.... I just hope that Marquee Matched with the 180's is as sharp as the xg with its unobtainable p16je's and wicked electronics. As long and its quieter than a helicopter i know it will definanly be quieter lol |
With the mike Parker mods I think you likely not be able to tell the difference between the two
Also the lens on your nec are hd145N I have two sets of them and they are color filtered (huge plus)
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ecrabb
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| the big E wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | E, the H2 is a heap of sh*t in every sense of the word. The original military spec Hummer was a beast, the civilian versions that followed are just junk.
If i wanted a 4x4 vehicle, there is only a handful id bother with.
Starting here....
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPmpKeOvUxw |
I didn't say anything about its off road abilities(it can do 95% what the h1 can do though not that it matters as most won't ever leave the pavement)
You and me both know the h1 is the off road king(I can close to getting one but I was afraid it would fit on my road not that it mattered
Heck I only have seen one h2 that looked like it had been took off road
If you want a joke look at the h3(I can barely get in one for its size)
FYI my escalade is all wheel drive and is pretty capable off road
American SUVs aren't like they used to be in many ways(adaptive suspension systems among other stuff)
FYI the h1 was a rebadged army truck by am general(gm went with them to build the h2) |
Sorry, I'm calling bull**** on both of you.
The H1 is indeed the civilian version of the military HMMWV (Humvee). Both versions were built by AM General, right on the same line, and shared most of the same driveline and running gear. The interiors were just much better in the civilian H1, while it was very spartan in the Humvee. Both are very capable off-road, but they do have their limitations. One is their size, which can be both an asset, and a liability. There are a lot of trails where the H1 is literally a pain in the ass because the width is huge, and the length and turn radius is huge. You don't realize how big an H1 is until you're in or around one.
The H2 certainly no H1, but it's a very good wheeler. It's built on an excellent chassis built from heavy duty GM truck parts, has great ground clearance, approach, break-over, and departure angles. It's big enough to be comfortable, but not huge like the H1. It's also surprisingly nimble for its size and weight. Not only have I done plenty of wheeling in all the Hummers, I actually took a check-ride with a professional driver in an H2 on the road course at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Four guys, at race track speeds, high-G breaking and cornering to show the proper lines, turn-ins, and breaking points, to the three of us who would be driving Ferraris and Lamborghinis later. I have no doubt that the guy was probably almost as fast around the track in the H2 as I was in the Scuderia. Seriously. Granted, he'd probably driven the track hundreds of laps (maybe thousands), and I'd never driven the track or the car, but still... To say the H2 is a heap of sh*t is complete bull**** from somebody who doesn't know the first thing about it.
As for the H3, it's also a really good wheeler. I'd put my H3 right up with a Jeep Rubicon. Mine has the adventure package with 33's, front and diff skid plates, and rear locker. It's a torquey inline 5, so power-weight is decent, but it still gets very decent fuel economy for a truck. I have no idea why anybody would criticize the size—I'm a big guy - 6'3" and 250 pounds, and I fit perfectly in it. So does my wife and two kids, and all our sh*t for the weekend. It's not big, but I don't need big. I've done plenty of wheeling in it, and it's very capable. I don't go out looking to get in trouble or break stuff, but I've followed Jeeps, H1's, H2's, and other H3's into all kinds of stuff I wouldn't have been comfortable attempting on my own. I've done dirt, rocks, water, mountains... Unless you're out to push the limit, there isn't much it won't do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZnn0B5pwvk
Oh, BTW - AM General had nothing whatever to do with the H2 or H3. They were built in GM plants with GM parts. GM just licensed the Hummer name from AM General.
Unimog? Yeah, that's practical. Hell, it makes the H1 almost seem practical by comparison. Lord.
If I were going to do any auto-racing, there are only a handful I'd bother with, starting with the 911 gt3 rs. 
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Crabb, im calling bull**** straight back. Im really amazed you took the time to even bother, let alone took any of it so seriously  Youd think youd know by now not to take me so literal, but anyway, obviously not.
GM don't make good cars. Its been years since they did. Many years. Youre only kidding yourself if you think they are better than the equivalent German made offerings from the likes of Audi, BMW, Mercedes Benz, or Volkswagen. Id sooner buy a Landrover than anything in that size range from GM or Chrysler.
Comparing a GM made vehicle to a Jeep is like comparing a Yugo to a Lada. They are both cheaply made vehicles that are built with compromise on long term durability to fit a low price bracket. You get what you pay for, and id sooner pay for something that will last, and in this country, an American made vehicle costs as much or more than a better built German made one.
Im certainly not stating you cant have your opinion on them, but that is mine. I have respect for your opinion, and I will expect you will show me the same courtesy.
"Oh and by the way" as you say, although ive been out of it for a number of years, I spent quite a lot of time involved with right hand drive conversions, one of the many vehicles included in that was the H2 Hummer.
As for the Porsche, its a fine place to start, I probably wouldn't go past it myself.
While im here, how many GM vehicles privately owned and privately used from new do you see this on with untouched original engine and auto trans???? No rebuilds. That would be cheating.
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Ha,
But these are kilometers! If You convert that into miles, You don't even have surpassed the million!!!
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| barclay66 wrote: | Ha,
But these are kilometers! If You convert that into miles, You don't even have surpassed the million!!!
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Yep, and its not my car either My 95 W202 is just about to hit 350,000 and ive hardly spent a cent on it. Still returns around 6.8ltrs/100 klms combined. About 35mpg in US gallons? 42mpg if you use a proper imperial gallon...
My father had a '78 280SE ( which is a 2.8ltr inline 6 unleaded for those that don't know Mercs ) that had 1,634,831 klms on it before the odometer stopped working. Everything else worked til he sold it about 10 years later, it never had a rebuild on the engine or auto trans either. Was purchased with just 148,000 klms on it. Never a single problem. Ever.
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the big E
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | Crabb, im calling bull**** straight back. Im really amazed you took the time to even bother, let alone took any of it so seriously Youd think youd know by now not to take me so literal, but anyway, obviously not.
GM don't make good cars. Its been years since they did. Many years. Youre only kidding yourself if you think they are better than the equivalent German made offerings from the likes of Audi, BMW, Mercedes Benz, or Volkswagen. Id sooner buy a Landrover than anything in that size range from GM or Chrysler.
Comparing a GM made vehicle to a Jeep is like comparing a Yugo to a Lada. They are both cheaply made vehicles that are built with compromise on long term durability to fit a low price bracket. You get what you pay for, and id sooner pay for something that will last, and in this country, an American made vehicle costs as much or more than a better built German made one.
Im certainly not stating you cant have your opinion on them, but that is mine. I have respect for your opinion, and I will expect you will show me the same courtesy.
"Oh and by the way" as you say, although ive been out of it for a number of years, I spent quite a lot of time involved with right hand drive conversions, one of the many vehicles included in that was the H2 Hummer.
As for the Porsche, its a fine place to start, I probably wouldn't go past it myself.
While im here, how many GM vehicles privately owned and privately used from new do you see this on with untouched original engine and auto trans???? No rebuilds. That would be cheating.
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Case I am calling bull**** on you as
1 me and my family have Had many gm vehicles all not bad at all
Now between me and my parents we own
Me a 03 Cadillac escalade with almost 180,000 miles(that's 289,681.92km if I am correct)
I haven't had any major engine or power train problems and those are hard driven miles(with some of that in the winter on solid ICE)
My dad has a hummer h2 and I still stand behind my claim about it being able to do 95 % what the h1 does why I say that as it was on the hummer site before gm and am general disbanded and took it down
I have got my dad's h2 up to 80-90 mph on the interstate pretty nimble for its size and stable to boot
Look up the Million mile Chevy there are some people getting closer and closer every day without replacing major parts
I have a 79 Chrysler cordoba and its built like a tank with close to 200,000 miles and it was built in Canada
FYI I haven't liked Mercedes since they're attempt at ruining Chrysler here in the states by putting they're crap transmission in Chryslers cars
Also gm has been number 1 world wide now how do you explain that if they're vehicles are junk
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | GM don't make good cars. Its been years since they did. Many years. Youre only kidding yourself if you think they are better than the equivalent German made offerings from the likes of Audi, BMW, Mercedes Benz, or Volkswagen. |
You think GM doesn't make good cars anymore? That's so laughable it's bizarre! GM's cars of today are like everything else everybody builds - pretty much far superior now to what they ever were! Just like in consumer electronics, there are some negatives to new stuff - especially that parts are expensive and they're much harder to work on - but to suggest that that new cars aren't as good as they used to be is truly ridiculous.
There's one single reason you see high-mileage Mercs and BMWs (and not GMs), and it isn't at all because of any inherently superior German engineering or build-quality: People take care of their German luxury import cars, and they don't take care of their GM commodity grocery-getters. It's as simple as that. In Germany, where Mercedes and BMW are commodity everyday grocery getters (not luxury cars), they use the sh*t up and discard it there, too - just like GMs in US and OZ.
I have friends with German cars, and once they get a few hundred thousand miles on them, they're just as much of a pain in the ass as American cars. sh*t breaks on them all time, and when it does, it's usually very expensive - especially if you don't do the work yourself.
There are getting to be plenty of GM cars with extremely high-mileage. Considering how well-engineered and well-manufactured all cars are today, the longevity of the car has far more to do with how it's treated, how it's maintained, and the conditions under which it's driven.
Given the same maintenance and operating conditions, any typical Ford, Chrysler, or GM powerplant will last just as long as their German or Japanese counterparts. Yes, it's as simple as that.
| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Id sooner buy a Landrover than anything in that size range from GM or Chrysler. |
Ah yes, Landrover... That bastion of long-term reliability. LOL! Where's that giant ROTFLMAO emoticon when I need it...
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| ecrabb wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | GM don't make good cars. Its been years since they did. Many years. Youre only kidding yourself if you think they are better than the equivalent German made offerings from the likes of Audi, BMW, Mercedes Benz, or Volkswagen. |
You think GM doesn't make good cars anymore? That's so laughable it's bizarre! GM's cars of today are like everything else everybody builds - pretty much far superior now to what they ever were! Just like in consumer electronics, there are some negatives to new stuff - especially that parts are expensive and they're much harder to work on - but to suggest that that new cars aren't as good as they used to be is truly ridiculous.
There's one single reason you see high-mileage Mercs and BMWs (and not GMs), and it isn't at all because of any inherently superior German engineering or build-quality: People take care of their German luxury import cars, and they don't take care of their GM commodity grocery-getters. It's as simple as that. In Germany, where Mercedes and BMW are commodity everyday grocery getters (not luxury cars), they use the sh*t up and discard it there, too - just like GMs in US and OZ.
I have friends with German cars, and once they get a few hundred thousand miles on them, they're just as much of a pain in the ass as American cars. sh*t breaks on them all time, and when it does, it's usually very expensive - especially if you don't do the work yourself.
There are getting to be plenty of GM cars with extremely high-mileage. Considering how well-engineered and well-manufactured all cars are today, the longevity of the car has far more to do with how it's treated, how it's maintained, and the conditions under which it's driven.
Given the same maintenance and operating conditions, any typical Ford, Chrysler, or GM powerplant will last just as long as their German or Japanese counterparts. Yes, it's as simple as that.
| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Id sooner buy a Landrover than anything in that size range from GM or Chrysler. |
Ah yes, Landrover... That bastion of long-term reliability. LOL! Where's that giant ROTFLMAO emoticon when I need it...
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I have a Lamborghini game but its not that
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So how do you explain 10 years without an oil change in the million plus mile Merc? The sump plug was rounded off, so my old man just didnt bother to change the oil. Fill it when it gets low he said. Still ran smooth as silk.
I havent changed my oil i over 2 years, i just top it up when the light comes on.
So.... Better looked after eh? Thats gotta be why... its just as common here for either one to be treated either way, once a car is out of warranty neglect to servicing is not uncommon on any make here, and the Europeans still last ALOT longer.
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| barclay66 wrote: | | Just found this on Buzzfeed and couldn't resist: |
That is a brilliant sticker, it stems from the sheer numer of "dickheads" in Australia removing the Holden badges from their cars and replacing them with the Chevy Bowtie because they are mistakenly under the impression the LS1 V8 engine in them is the same as they fitted in the Corvettes. Almost everything including the block is different, but thats abit irrelevant cause they were the same engine in the F-body cars.
It seems in more recent times we are starting to see a larger popularity in Korean cars here, apparently they are also quite well built, but i dont know anything about them. Like European cars, they seem to have a large amount of diesel powered models in small cars as well as larger.
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