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ecrabb Forum Moderator
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 15909 Location: Utah
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| CIR Engineering wrote: | | Another thing about lasik is that there is about a 1% failure rate. Meaning that your vision in one eye could be worse than before the surgery and then no longer correctable. |
Yes, I alluded to that when I mentioned the risks, but the actual figure is what makes it a non-starter for me.
SC
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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12088 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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| Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, the "non-correctable" bit is pretty damn scary.
I have pretty bad astigmatism and I've considered getting LASIK for years. Even if I didn't get to 20/20, I figured it would be worth it just to reduce the astigmatism. (Astigmatism is a directional distortion in your cornea. You have to align the corrective lens at the correct angle to get proper correction. At my level of astig I need the lens aligned within one degree or so, or I get eyestrain. And that's tighter tolerance than most glasses-making places try for. Worse, your eyes "self-level" if you tilt your head -- but your lenses don't. So any time I tilt my head, my vision blurs and I get eyestrain. Sucks.)
But I was never brave enough to risk the complications. Now that I'm in my late 50's, I've started having a bit of trouble with chronic eye infections (blepharitis). My eye doc confirmed that I should **never** have LASIK with this condition, and it's a good thing I didn't do it already.
Slicing and frying your cornea is a dicey proposition. It usually works out OK, but not always. And like SC said, for those of us who are fussy about our vision, it's just not a good idea.
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Spanky Ham
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central
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Gary,
My astigmatism is a 120 axis in my right eye with a -.75 cylinder. Not sure if this is bad or not. My eye doc said my right eye was much worse than the left.
You guys make some good points about Lasik, but it still seems to work out for a lot of people.
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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12088 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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-0.75 is pretty mild. Mine is -2.50 in one eye and -3.75 in the other.
Lasik works for a lot of people. A lot of people aren't that fussy about sharp vision. And it sucks bigtime if you happen to be one of the unlucky ones who it DOESN'T work out for. The odds are very good but it's still Russian roulette if you lose.
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paw
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1176 Location: Arvada, CO
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:37 am Post subject: |
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LASIK was the best thing I've done. My only issue was dry eyes for a few years. Only a little more than when I worn contacts. Now I can slap on a pair of sunglasses or goggles and go for a bike ride or ski. Also, I probably worn up with reading glasses a little soon. A reasonable trade off for me.
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Spanky Ham
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:02 am Post subject: |
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Did you get wavefront or regular Lasik?
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paw
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 1176 Location: Arvada, CO
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | | Did you get wavefront or regular Lasik? |
I'm 99% sure it was regular LASIK.
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Spanky Ham
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central
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| Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 2:25 am Post subject: |
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Interesting. It is said that the success rate is much higher with wavefront or custom Lasik as opposed to regular Lasik.
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CIR Engineering
Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 4269 Location: Chicago USA & Berlin Germany
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| Spanky Ham wrote: | CRAIG CRAIG!!!!!
Now that I have your attention. I just received my order from eyebuydirect. I bought three pairs of test glasses. One pair of sunglasses, one pair of regular glasses and one pair of reading/computer glasses. All glasses have the anti-glare coating. The regular and sunglasses have the UV coating. All are single vision with the reading glasses have +1.00 addition. I think it was $55 for all three.
I ordered them three weeks ago last Sunday. They arrived today in boxes similar to bank check boxes. Each has a plastic case with cleaning cloth. The first thing I noticed is that the frames seem more sturdy than the reading glass frames that I bought from my doctor. After trying them on, I was impressed. I don't have a frame of reference, but they seem like they work really well. I am wearing the r/c glasses right now and the computer screen is much clearer with them than without.
I have a question and it might have already been answered in this thread. Is the UV coating necessary? I didn't get it with the r/c glasses, but did with my general glasses. The r/c glasses make the computer screen crisp and clear. The general glasses are only slightly better than no glasses. Since I will probably be wearing the sunglasses outside when it is sunny and not the general glasses, it seems like the UV coating wouldn't offer any benefits. Also, I think I read somewhere that lenses already filter out a lot of UV without the coating. |
I'm going to try eyebuydirect today. About to place an order...
Thanks for the review. I'll also have the glasses measured when I go to my optometrist next.
craigr
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CIR Engineering
Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 4269 Location: Chicago USA & Berlin Germany
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| Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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I ordered two pair, couldn't resist.
craigr
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Spanky Ham
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central
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I hope it didn't break the bank!
I have been wearing my general glasses for night vision and especially driving. They have really helped. I was out last night and tested with and without. With the glasses on, this girl I was staring at looked normal. Without the glasses, she looked washed out like a pj image with the lights on.
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CIR Engineering
Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 4269 Location: Chicago USA & Berlin Germany
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Yeah, I spent a whopping $75 on a pair of rimless glasses and another half rim style. I got the anti-glare coating so I am looking forward to getting them.
craigr
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Nashou66
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Spanky Ham
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central
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I haven't really tested them, but I haven't noticed any CA.
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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12088 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Nashou, they're almost certainly some high-index plastic. The optical places really push the high-index, apparently not caring that it totally hoses the CA for anyone with a strong prescription. I doubt CR39 would have "massive" CA no matter how bad your prescription is.
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CIR Engineering
Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 4269 Location: Chicago USA & Berlin Germany
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| garyfritz wrote: | | Nashou, they're almost certainly some high-index plastic. The optical places really push the high-index, apparently not caring that it totally hoses the CA for anyone with a strong prescription. I doubt CR39 would have "massive" CA no matter how bad your prescription is. |
They don't even know what CA is. I talked to three different shops before I knew what CA was. I told them that on the edges of objects I saw red or blue halos especially as I looked through my lenses away from center. None of them knew what I was talking about and two shops said they thought going to a higher index would improve the situation.
craigr
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garyfritz
Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 12088 Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember complaining years ago about "blue on one side, orange on the other" fringes to my *ophthalmologist* and he had no idea what I was talking about. Maybe he's not an expert in lens materials but by God he ought to understand optics. And he SHOULD understand lens materials, since his office dispenses glasses too.
The optician places think high-index is the answer to everything. It's lighter, thinner, better scratch and UV protection, so of COURSE it's better for all people. They apparently assume all lenses have perfect optics so that's not even considered. (And the fact that the high-index lenses are more expensive never enters into the equation I'm sure...) The lens manufacturers must make a fortune on the high-index plastics because they sure push 'em hard. You have to make a special request to get CR39 and lots of times you'll encounter a tech who has no idea what you're talking about.
That's why I became a bit of an expert myself. I have to manage my eye care or incompetents will manage it for me.
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Spanky Ham
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 5643 Location: Comedy Central
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It is funny you say that, Gary. With the online companies (at least the ones I have looked at), the default is CR39.
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CIR Engineering
Joined: 25 Aug 2008 Posts: 4269 Location: Chicago USA & Berlin Germany
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Zenni defaults to like a 1.57 or so index and that lens is "free." You can also opt to downgrade to CR39 at no additional charge. Your eyebuydirect defaults to 1.5 index and the 1.57 is an upgrade that they "highly recommend." Needless to say, I did not opt for the upgrade but I did add anti-glare.
craigr
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CasetheCorvetteman
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No one here had any idea what i was talking about either Craig, they all said its normal on all glasses, yet none of them could actually understand what i was refering to. I said colours out of alignment, they said no that doesnt happen with our glasses....
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