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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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You got them, and they are postet quite a few times in this thread.. You realy have to keep up..
Maybe they are to manipulated for you, if thats the case im sorry.
Just so you realise, most of us who messes with CRT are aware of the limitations to the tech, and whats not perfect.
We are also fully aware of what we do like, and why..
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | You got them, and they are postet quite a few times in this thread.. You realy have to keep up..
Maybe they are to manipulated for you, if thats the case im sorry.
Just so you realise, most of us who messes with CRT are aware of the limitations to the tech, and whats not perfect.
We are also fully aware of what we do like, and why.. |
Sorry for taking a old picture 
This pattern showed that my iPhone 4 the last time did not get It right at all. Like I said.
And even scaled to 4K it looks dam good and manages this pattern very well. So I was right?
Here you see them together your machine and the VW1000 and based on the distance where the photos were taken,
I like you again to say what you see so everybody can hear.. This is very close to how it is shown in each corner with same light in each corner.
What about black and white. compared to yours?
How do you think dynamic is on this projector compared to yours?
VW1000 closer? to Original pattern 1080P?
I am waiting for the answer, this is not a competition like you say all the time, and that its dam correct and what about the rest?
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | You got them, and they are postet quite a few times in this thread.. You realy have to keep up..
Maybe they are to manipulated for you, if thats the case im sorry.
Just so you realise, most of us who messes with CRT are aware of the limitations to the tech, and whats not perfect.
We are also fully aware of what we do like, and why.. |
And about manipulating then you do a terrible job hehe 
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Your right your picture is much sharper, i cant compete with that..
And i think i have said that its quite nice from a scaled pattern.. But its not perfect, and the CRT are also not perfect.
About the dynamic range i cant say for sure.. I know my Marquee looks more dynamic than the JVC.. I cant coment on how yours looks compared to the CRT.
I know you also have a native 1080P SONY.. How do it handle that pattern.. Better than the JVC i hope.?
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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If you like the latest picture its here 1080P 72 hz..
Ipad photo.
Its a bit sharper when looking at it, but not much.
It have a standard blue neckboard, it makes a small color shift, and make blue all fussy.
Optical and magnetic focus is not perfect, but i dont want to use days on that untill its hanging where it should be.
But i still think it looks quite nice, and your welcome to use it to compare with when you are going to evaluate the BARCO.
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | If you like the latest picture its here 1080P 72 hz..
Ipad photo.
Its a bit sharper when looking at it, but not much.
It have a standard blue neckboard, it makes a small color shift, and make blue all fussy.
Optical and magnetic focus is not perfect, but i dont want to use days on that untill its hanging where it should be.
But i still think it looks quite nice, and your welcome to use it to compare with when you are going to evaluate the BARCO. |
And it looks god for a CRT.
I asked you a lot of questions answer please.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | If you like the latest picture its here 1080P 72 hz..
Ipad photo.
Its a bit sharper when looking at it, but not much.
It have a standard blue neckboard, it makes a small color shift, and make blue all fussy.
Optical and magnetic focus is not perfect, but i dont want to use days on that untill its hanging where it should be.
But i still think it looks quite nice, and your welcome to use it to compare with when you are going to evaluate the BARCO. |
And it looks god for a CRT.
I asked you a lot of questions answer please. |
Wich one did i fail to ansver.?
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | Your right your picture is much sharper, i cant compete with that..
And i think i have said that its quite nice from a scaled pattern.. But its not perfect, and the CRT are also not perfect.
About the dynamic range i cant say for sure.. I know my Marquee looks more dynamic than the JVC.. I cant coment on how yours looks compared to the CRT.
I know you also have a native 1080P SONY.. How do it handle that pattern.. Better than the JVC i hope.? |
I do not know about the hw55 I check and post a photo. It's similar to the vw1000
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Now it's god night.
Thank god for a normal level here again hehe
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Diddern
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:48 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | Full 4K 4096x2160 This is 4K
And we do not know if it will be 24, 48, or 60 frames, but the upgrade on the VW1100 will manage all.
And not if it will be REC 2020 or what it will be. |
You better stop before you make a total joke of yourself.. |
I wonder who made a total joke of him selves you had everything that you needed 
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | Full 4K 4096x2160 This is 4K
And we do not know if it will be 24, 48, or 60 frames, but the upgrade on the VW1100 will manage all.
And not if it will be REC 2020 or what it will be. |
You better stop before you make a total joke of yourself.. |
I wonder who made a total joke of him selves you had everything that you needed |
Ok you asked for it.
Remember i dont know the numbers, thats what i asked your help with, your ansver was in the end-->
4096X2160x60 = 530841600 Will this work, or is that enough bandwidth to run 4K 60hz ??
Teach me !
4K.. whatever kind of 4K you desire.
And please explain the nr, so we in the future can use them in the Radiance. If you dont know the nr, let me know wich parameters are needed to calkulate the clock.
V Total ?
H Total ?
V Active ?
H active ?
V Front ?
H Front ?
V sync ?
H sync ?
V Rate ?
Clock..??
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kabuby77
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| ecrabb wrote: | | kabuby77 wrote: | | Everyone here will forget that in real images do not exist perfectly horizontal and vertical lines, and that the edge of the objects in our eyes is a continuous line and not pixelated. This fact made the crt better(natural) than the first digital projectors. |
What source were you displaying on your CRT that wasn't using pixels? Do "real images" have scan lines?
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Do you see scan lines in the screen shots? 
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| kabuby77 wrote: | | The best way to upscale Hd material is to use UHD because you double H and V pixels. |
True, but then you can only use about 94% of the width of the chip on a 4k projector like the VW1000.
SC |
Right but it's a pro feature of the pj because you can project both UHD and 4K material with 1:1 pixel mapping. The projector has the motorized zoom so you can fit the image to the screen.
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Diddern
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | Full 4K 4096x2160 This is 4K
And we do not know if it will be 24, 48, or 60 frames, but the upgrade on the VW1100 will manage all.
And not if it will be REC 2020 or what it will be. |
You better stop before you make a total joke of yourself.. |
I wonder who made a total joke of him selves you had everything that you needed |
Ok you asked for it.
Remember i dont know the numbers, thats what i asked your help with, your ansver was in the end-->
4096X2160x60 = 530841600 Will this work, or is that enough bandwidth to run 4K 60hz ??
Teach me !
4K.. whatever kind of 4K you desire.
And please explain the nr, so we in the future can use them in the Radiance. If you dont know the nr, let me know wich parameters are needed to calkulate the clock.
V Total ?
H Total ?
V Active ?
H active ?
V Front ?
H Front ?
V sync ?
H sync ?
V Rate ?
Clock..?? |
To get the result you had what you needed on a digital.
And its un relevant to me, and total un relevant for this topic.
Du er en helt utrolig kverulant...... Aldri vært borti makan.
Du inndrømmer aldri dine feil, du kommer bare med spørsmål tilbake. Synes synd på deg.....
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | Full 4K 4096x2160 This is 4K
And we do not know if it will be 24, 48, or 60 frames, but the upgrade on the VW1100 will manage all.
And not if it will be REC 2020 or what it will be. |
You better stop before you make a total joke of yourself.. |
I wonder who made a total joke of him selves you had everything that you needed |
Ok you asked for it.
Remember i dont know the numbers, thats what i asked your help with, your ansver was in the end-->
4096X2160x60 = 530841600 Will this work, or is that enough bandwidth to run 4K 60hz ??
Teach me !
4K.. whatever kind of 4K you desire.
And please explain the nr, so we in the future can use them in the Radiance. If you dont know the nr, let me know wich parameters are needed to calkulate the clock.
V Total ?
H Total ?
V Active ?
H active ?
V Front ?
H Front ?
V sync ?
H sync ?
V Rate ?
Clock..?? |
To get the result you had what you needed on a digital.
Du er en helt utrolig kverulant...... Aldri vært borti makan.
Du inndrømmer aldri dine feil, du kommer bare med spørsmål tilbake. Synes synd på deg..... |
Ok thanks.. So you and ecrab agree.. Nice.!
Please translate the last lines so all here on the forum will understand..
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Andreas21
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:43 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | Full 4K 4096x2160 This is 4K
And we do not know if it will be 24, 48, or 60 frames, but the upgrade on the VW1100 will manage all.
And not if it will be REC 2020 or what it will be. |
You better stop before you make a total joke of yourself.. |
I wonder who made a total joke of him selves you had everything that you needed |
Ok you asked for it.
Remember i dont know the numbers, thats what i asked your help with, your ansver was in the end-->
4096X2160x60 = 530841600 Will this work, or is that enough bandwidth to run 4K 60hz ??
Teach me !
4K.. whatever kind of 4K you desire.
And please explain the nr, so we in the future can use them in the Radiance. If you dont know the nr, let me know wich parameters are needed to calkulate the clock.
V Total ?
H Total ?
V Active ?
H active ?
V Front ?
H Front ?
V sync ?
H sync ?
V Rate ?
Clock..?? |
When you get a 4K projector and a 4K Lumagen you don´t have to manually do them in the Lumagen all this happens automatlicly. The bandwith of 4K 60Hz is 530Mhz and that is a fact, the timingnumbers I don´t know and I am sorry for that.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: |
When you get a 4K projector and a 4K Lumagen you don´t have to manually do them in the Lumagen all this happens automatlicly. The bandwith of 4K 60Hz is 530Mhz and that is a fact, the timingnumbers I don´t know and I am sorry for that. |
Thats ok..
And i know i dont need to add the nr. Just curious how you get the clock without knowing the timings/ H and V total.
Unless they are the same as H and V active.
1920x1080x 60 = 124416000
thats not the right clock/ bandwidt its 60/1,001 x 2200x1125 = 148351648
Most digital displays will not display anything if any of the timing nr are not correct.
But im very curious to learn something new..
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Diddern
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: |
When you get a 4K projector and a 4K Lumagen you don´t have to manually do them in the Lumagen all this happens automatlicly. The bandwith of 4K 60Hz is 530Mhz and that is a fact, the timingnumbers I don´t know and I am sorry for that. |
Thats ok..
And i know i dont need to add the nr. Just curious how you get the clock without knowing the timings/ H and V total.
Unless they are the same as H and V active.
1920x1080x 60 = 124416000
thats not the right clock/ bandwidt its 60/1,001 x 2200x1125 = 148351648
Most digital displays will not display anything if any of the timing nr are not correct.
But im very curious to learn something new.. |
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Andreas21
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: |
When you get a 4K projector and a 4K Lumagen you don´t have to manually do them in the Lumagen all this happens automatlicly. The bandwith of 4K 60Hz is 530Mhz and that is a fact, the timingnumbers I don´t know and I am sorry for that. |
Thats ok..
And i know i dont need to add the nr. Just curious how you get the clock without knowing the timings/ H and V total.
Unless they are the same as H and V active.
1920x1080x 60 = 124416000
thats not the right clock/ bandwidt its 60/1,001 x 2200x1125 = 148351648
Most digital displays will not display anything if any of the timing nr are not correct.
But im very curious to learn something new.. |
I am also eager to learn something new, but I can´t help you with these numbers for 4K
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: |
When you get a 4K projector and a 4K Lumagen you don´t have to manually do them in the Lumagen all this happens automatlicly. The bandwith of 4K 60Hz is 530Mhz and that is a fact, the timingnumbers I don´t know and I am sorry for that. |
Thats ok..
And i know i dont need to add the nr. Just curious how you get the clock without knowing the timings/ H and V total.
Unless they are the same as H and V active.
1920x1080x 60 = 124416000
thats not the right clock/ bandwidt its 60/1,001 x 2200x1125 = 148351648
Most digital displays will not display anything if any of the timing nr are not correct.
But im very curious to learn something new.. |
I am also eager to learn something new, but I can´t help you with these numbers for 4K |
I cant find the nr.
Im quite sure that 530Mhz will not be enough, guess 40Mhz or more short of bandwidth.
My bid is around 600Mhz.
And if thats the case i think knowing the timings is quite important to know, or at least consider, as not only beeing something on a analog display.
What do you think.. Also like to stick your head in the ground.?
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Andreas21
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I think the timings are important, but I don´t bother. I am finished with this stupid discussion now!
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