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ecrabb
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| kabuby77 wrote: | | Everyone here will forget that in real images do not exist perfectly horizontal and vertical lines, and that the edge of the objects in our eyes is a continuous line and not pixelated. This fact made the crt better(natural) than the first digital projectors. |
What source were you displaying on your CRT that wasn't using pixels? Do "real images" have scan lines?
| kabuby77 wrote: | | The best way to upscale Hd material is to use UHD because you double H and V pixels. |
True, but then you can only use about 94% of the width of the chip on a 4k projector like the VW1000.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Out of all this i just made a 576P 150hz profile on my Marquee..
Adjusted the dot size to make the scanlines meet.
Now i have never seen more dynamic detailed colorfull DVD image.. No scaling artifacts or ringing..
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | Out of all this i just made a 576P 150hz profile on my Marquee..
Adjusted the dot size to make the scanlines meet.
Now i have never seen more dynamic detailed colorfull DVD image.. No scaling artifacts or ringing.. |
And everyone used to wonder why i used 576p for DVD on my 9PG... 
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Diddern
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | Out of all this i just made a 576P 150hz profile on my Marquee..
Adjusted the dot size to make the scanlines meet.
Now i have never seen more dynamic detailed colorfull DVD image.. No scaling artifacts or ringing.. |
Take some screenshots hehe lol do you still watch that hehe god for you. I think that my optoma 720p is better hehe. Better test pattern image.
What is next i wonder. I saied to my selves that I needed to stop reading all this crap here.
But something or someone drags me back hehe.
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Diddern
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| mp20748 wrote: | CRT projector - 1920X1080P /60hz
My 03 that's waiting on the mini board mod.
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Real good screenshots. 
Looks real good.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Out of all this i just made a 576P 150hz profile on my Marquee..
Adjusted the dot size to make the scanlines meet.
Now i have never seen more dynamic detailed colorfull DVD image.. No scaling artifacts or ringing.. |
Take some screenshots hehe lol do you still watch that hehe god for you. I think that my optoma 720p is better hehe. Better test pattern image.
What is next i wonder. I saied to my selves that I needed to stop reading all this crap here.
But something or someone drags me back hehe.
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Well i understood you were the one pointing out that screenshots was useless.. so why bother.. But actualy i would love to make some,, ill see if i can fix my canon camera..
Dont underestimate the power of native resolution displayed 1:1 not even SD material.
Its clear to see how much dynamic range details and ansi contrast was lost in the scaling.
Your optoma will do fine with 720P material, its just not a standard format, so you wil always need to scale.. so no gain there.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Yes.... And dont underestimate the powar of the Dark Side... You can not win... There will be nothing to stop us this time....
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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But hey, post up some screen shots from your Optoma, and ill post one or two up from my Epson EMP-S5...
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | But hey, post up some screen shots from your Optoma, and ill post one or two up from my Epson EMP-S5... |
Why not.. Lets see them with the SMPTe pattern who fits the panel resolution.. And scaled if you like..
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Many years ago, an Epson EMP-S4...
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | But hey, post up some screen shots from your Optoma, and ill post one or two up from my Epson EMP-S5... |
Why not.. Lets see them with the SMPTe pattern who fits the panel resolution.. And scaled if you like.. |
Mate i cant be bothered with that!! Haha!!
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Diddern
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | But hey, post up some screen shots from your Optoma, and ill post one or two up from my Epson EMP-S5... |
Why not.. Lets see them with the SMPTe pattern who fits the panel resolution.. And scaled if you like.. |
Have a lol and a god weekend watch movies not patters hehe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=562PdGcsZvI
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:24 am Post subject: |
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If i posted the pattern on my Epson it will easily flog all others, its an 800x600 machine.
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AnalogRocks
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| Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | If i posted the pattern on my Epson it will easily flog all others, its an 800x600 machine. |
800x600!! WOW!
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:14 am Post subject: |
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Yeah mate, back when i bought it that was more than enough 
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ElTopo
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Cine 9
SMPTE 1080p@60Hz
Untouched and resized.
If the pics do not look good to you get a CRT monitor 
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:08 am Post subject: |
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It doesnt look any different from mine i took a few weeks ago when i zoom in on my screen, this was with a buggered arcing quad:
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ElTopo
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| Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:18 am Post subject: |
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No prob with resolving 1080p@60Hz then.
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:23 am Post subject: |
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[quote="mp20748"]CRT projector - 1920X1080P /60hz
My 03 that's waiting on the mini board mod.
Just to prove that screenshots are just bull when taken by different camera, and different screens and room.
Here a projector that cost me 120 dollar. A Theme Scene DLP 720P. I think its a optoma. Oppo player 720P 60hz
Picture taken form 2,7 meters
Focus center. Screen estimated 90" did not manage to get the picture bigger. Tried to get the best picture possible form different distances. To cover up pixels on screen
Side by side different camera me iphone 4 and you I do not know.
I play "stridsvognen" 
Color is off
To much sharpness
Dynamic to much
You cant know that form screenshots. You are talking about the camera.
The camera shows only what need to be shown, if it is hard images it compromises..
Screenshots are useless, unless same room, same camera, same shutter time, same adjustments.
No need to argue this is also fact..
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| ElTopo wrote: | | No prob with resolving 1080p@60Hz then. |
Difference is my pic is at 72Hz....
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