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Diddern
Joined: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 821 Location: Norway
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: | Again here is Mikes CRT side by side with my X500.
Can please someone tell what is better with the CRT?? To me ther is nothing in the CRT picture that is better... |
As of the pictures like they are here,, like I said before SD vs HD. Sorry but fact.
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Andreas21
Joined: 02 Oct 2013 Posts: 582
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| Diddern wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | Again here is Mikes CRT side by side with my X500.
Can please someone tell what is better with the CRT?? To me ther is nothing in the CRT picture that is better... |
As of the pictures like they are here,, like I said before SD vs HD. Sorry but fact. |
It is not only the resolution, it is everything else as well. It is easy to se the JVC has more contrast, clarity, depth +++
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Andreas21
Joined: 02 Oct 2013 Posts: 582
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| thewolfman wrote: | | If your up to it.. shot me some more Baraka from the x500. |
Maby, but not today I think as it is friday evening and I will try to spend it with my family. And maby you can post the same picture from cars? I will also take some other screenshots and if you like you can post the same??
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thewolfman
Joined: 28 Mar 2011 Posts: 1311 Location: Sweden
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | If your up to it.. shot me some more Baraka from the x500. |
Maby, but not today I think as it is friday evening and I will try to spend it with my family. And maby you can post the same picture from cars? I will also take some other screenshots and if you like you can post the same?? |
Sure, let's do this some other time. And feel free to post any images you like and I'll redo them later. And from now on, except tonight, I'll save them as PNG as I want to see if the pixels goes away or lessen the effect at least.
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I noticed JVC has much better and more vivid colors that of mine. CRT has its limitations it seems when looking at the smaller cars in the background. Digital does indeed appeal to me.
In all fairness, I have to much blue in this image as it was shot back when I was struggling to get the colors in order.
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Diddern
Joined: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 821 Location: Norway
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| thewolfman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | If your up to it.. shot me some more Baraka from the x500. |
Maby, but not today I think as it is friday evening and I will try to spend it with my family. And maby you can post the same picture from cars? I will also take some other screenshots and if you like you can post the same?? |
Sure, let's do this some other time. And feel free to post any images you like and I'll redo them later. And from now on, except tonight, I'll save them as PNG as I want to see if the pixels goes away or lessen the effect at least.
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I noticed JVC has much better and more vivid colors that of mine. CRT has its limitations it seems when looking at the smaller cars in the background. Digital does indeed appeal to me.
In all fairness, I have to much blue in this image as it was shot back when I was struggling to get the colors in order. |
What CRT do you have this looks very god, except colors like you say.
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Diddern
Joined: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 821 Location: Norway
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| thewolfman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | If your up to it.. shot me some more Baraka from the x500. |
Maby, but not today I think as it is friday evening and I will try to spend it with my family. And maby you can post the same picture from cars? I will also take some other screenshots and if you like you can post the same?? |
Sure, let's do this some other time. And feel free to post any images you like and I'll redo them later. And from now on, except tonight, I'll save them as PNG as I want to see if the pixels goes away or lessen the effect at least.
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I noticed JVC has much better and more vivid colors that of mine. CRT has its limitations it seems when looking at the smaller cars in the background. Digital does indeed appeal to me.
In all fairness, I have to much blue in this image as it was shot back when I was struggling to get the colors in order. |
And What's your screen size do you have and gain.
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thewolfman
Joined: 28 Mar 2011 Posts: 1311 Location: Sweden
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Diddern wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | If your up to it.. shot me some more Baraka from the x500. |
Maby, but not today I think as it is friday evening and I will try to spend it with my family. And maby you can post the same picture from cars? I will also take some other screenshots and if you like you can post the same?? |
Sure, let's do this some other time. And feel free to post any images you like and I'll redo them later. And from now on, except tonight, I'll save them as PNG as I want to see if the pixels goes away or lessen the effect at least.
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I noticed JVC has much better and more vivid colors that of mine. CRT has its limitations it seems when looking at the smaller cars in the background. Digital does indeed appeal to me.
In all fairness, I have to much blue in this image as it was shot back when I was struggling to get the colors in order. |
And What's your screen size do you have and gain. |
It's crap. The cheapest you can get and pure vinyl. Very soft and impossible to wash off any smudge. I should have saved up some more and gotten something with a material that's woven.
No gain that I can see or advertised.
Multibrackets M Framed Projection Screen Deluxe 2.35:1 108" (254x108)
What do you have for screen? Happy with it?
My pj is original except for the Frankenyokes. Those things are probably what makes it good. I see no other explanation.
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Andreas21
Joined: 02 Oct 2013 Posts: 582
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| thewolfman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | If your up to it.. shot me some more Baraka from the x500. |
Maby, but not today I think as it is friday evening and I will try to spend it with my family. And maby you can post the same picture from cars? I will also take some other screenshots and if you like you can post the same?? |
Sure, let's do this some other time. And feel free to post any images you like and I'll redo them later. And from now on, except tonight, I'll save them as PNG as I want to see if the pixels goes away or lessen the effect at least.
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I noticed JVC has much better and more vivid colors that of mine. CRT has its limitations it seems when looking at the smaller cars in the background. Digital does indeed appeal to me.
In all fairness, I have to much blue in this image as it was shot back when I was struggling to get the colors in order. |
Your picture looks better than the other CRT posting almost the same picture. Is it only downsized to fit this site or is it edited??
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thewolfman
Joined: 28 Mar 2011 Posts: 1311 Location: Sweden
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | If your up to it.. shot me some more Baraka from the x500. |
Maby, but not today I think as it is friday evening and I will try to spend it with my family. And maby you can post the same picture from cars? I will also take some other screenshots and if you like you can post the same?? |
Sure, let's do this some other time. And feel free to post any images you like and I'll redo them later. And from now on, except tonight, I'll save them as PNG as I want to see if the pixels goes away or lessen the effect at least.
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I noticed JVC has much better and more vivid colors that of mine. CRT has its limitations it seems when looking at the smaller cars in the background. Digital does indeed appeal to me.
In all fairness, I have to much blue in this image as it was shot back when I was struggling to get the colors in order. |
Your picture looks better than the other CRT posting almost the same picture. Is it only downsized to fit this site or is it edited?? |
I don't know about edited.. it's downsized to 1800 pixels in width and leave as is for the hight and post. All done in Paint.
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Andreas21
Joined: 02 Oct 2013 Posts: 582
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| thewolfman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | If your up to it.. shot me some more Baraka from the x500. |
Maby, but not today I think as it is friday evening and I will try to spend it with my family. And maby you can post the same picture from cars? I will also take some other screenshots and if you like you can post the same?? |
Sure, let's do this some other time. And feel free to post any images you like and I'll redo them later. And from now on, except tonight, I'll save them as PNG as I want to see if the pixels goes away or lessen the effect at least.
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I noticed JVC has much better and more vivid colors that of mine. CRT has its limitations it seems when looking at the smaller cars in the background. Digital does indeed appeal to me.
In all fairness, I have to much blue in this image as it was shot back when I was struggling to get the colors in order. |
Your picture looks better than the other CRT posting almost the same picture. Is it only downsized to fit this site or is it edited?? |
I don't know about edited.. it's downsized to 1800 pixels in width and leave as is for the hight and post. All done in Paint. |
Is it just as from the camera only downsized? If it is, it is the same way I do it.
I have a 3m wide 2.35:1 white matte screen with 1.0 gain and I have 3.7m seatingdistance to the first row.
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thewolfman
Joined: 28 Mar 2011 Posts: 1311 Location: Sweden
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I have one more request, if you have it on Bluray.. the Great Gatsby. Stunning scenery throughout the movie it seems. I haven't seen it yet as I waiting for some parts. I don't want to waste that movie and many others with standard parts.
Redo this one if you could.
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Andreas21
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| thewolfman wrote: | I have one more request, if you have it on Bluray.. the Great Gatsby. Stunning scenery throughout the movie it seems. I haven't seen it yet as I waiting for some parts. I don't want to waste that movie and many others with standard parts.
Redo this one if you could. |
I have it so maby.
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thewolfman
Joined: 28 Mar 2011 Posts: 1311 Location: Sweden
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | If your up to it.. shot me some more Baraka from the x500. |
Maby, but not today I think as it is friday evening and I will try to spend it with my family. And maby you can post the same picture from cars? I will also take some other screenshots and if you like you can post the same?? |
Sure, let's do this some other time. And feel free to post any images you like and I'll redo them later. And from now on, except tonight, I'll save them as PNG as I want to see if the pixels goes away or lessen the effect at least.
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I noticed JVC has much better and more vivid colors that of mine. CRT has its limitations it seems when looking at the smaller cars in the background. Digital does indeed appeal to me.
In all fairness, I have to much blue in this image as it was shot back when I was struggling to get the colors in order. |
Your picture looks better than the other CRT posting almost the same picture. Is it only downsized to fit this site or is it edited?? |
I don't know about edited.. it's downsized to 1800 pixels in width and leave as is for the hight and post. All done in Paint. |
Is it just as from the camera only downsized? If it is, it is the same way I do it.
I have a 3m wide 2.35:1 white matte screen with 1.0 gain and I have 3.7m seatingdistance to the first row. |
I saved them before as jpeg, and that made about 650kb witch is to big to post so I make them 1800 pixels. But from now on I will save them as PNG and then make them 1800 pixels. But the real files from the camera is about 2-3 megapixels. If you like I'll mail them to you as I have nothing to hide.
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Diddern
Joined: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 821 Location: Norway
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| thewolfman wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | If your up to it.. shot me some more Baraka from the x500. |
Maby, but not today I think as it is friday evening and I will try to spend it with my family. And maby you can post the same picture from cars? I will also take some other screenshots and if you like you can post the same?? |
Sure, let's do this some other time. And feel free to post any images you like and I'll redo them later. And from now on, except tonight, I'll save them as PNG as I want to see if the pixels goes away or lessen the effect at least.
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I noticed JVC has much better and more vivid colors that of mine. CRT has its limitations it seems when looking at the smaller cars in the background. Digital does indeed appeal to me.
In all fairness, I have to much blue in this image as it was shot back when I was struggling to get the colors in order. |
And What's your screen size do you have and gain. |
It's crap. The cheapest you can get and pure vinyl. Very soft and impossible to wash off any smudge. I should have saved up some more and gotten something with a material that's woven.
No gain that I can see or advertised.
Multibrackets M Framed Projection Screen Deluxe 2.35:1 108" (254x108)
What do you have for screen? Happy with it?
My pj is original except for the Frankenyokes. Those things are probably what makes it good. I see no other explanation. |
I use a dnp supernova core2 0,85 d65
This helps the black level on the Sony vw1100 I had, but on the jvcx500 I am not so shure anymore.
I saw Andreas white screen and the x500 looked even better and more clear. And black still compleatly black and more and less CRT shutdown to 0ire.
I guess you have the marquee 9500 LC. If that is so need to check it out. Looked much better than the barco 909 from pictures. If you forget the colours.
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thewolfman
Joined: 28 Mar 2011 Posts: 1311 Location: Sweden
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Diddern wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | If your up to it.. shot me some more Baraka from the x500. |
Maby, but not today I think as it is friday evening and I will try to spend it with my family. And maby you can post the same picture from cars? I will also take some other screenshots and if you like you can post the same?? |
Sure, let's do this some other time. And feel free to post any images you like and I'll redo them later. And from now on, except tonight, I'll save them as PNG as I want to see if the pixels goes away or lessen the effect at least.
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I noticed JVC has much better and more vivid colors that of mine. CRT has its limitations it seems when looking at the smaller cars in the background. Digital does indeed appeal to me.
In all fairness, I have to much blue in this image as it was shot back when I was struggling to get the colors in order. |
And What's your screen size do you have and gain. |
It's crap. The cheapest you can get and pure vinyl. Very soft and impossible to wash off any smudge. I should have saved up some more and gotten something with a material that's woven.
No gain that I can see or advertised.
Multibrackets M Framed Projection Screen Deluxe 2.35:1 108" (254x108)
What do you have for screen? Happy with it?
My pj is original except for the Frankenyokes. Those things are probably what makes it good. I see no other explanation. |
I use a dnp supernova core2 0,85 d65
This helps the black level on the Sony vw1100 I had, but on the jvcx500 I am not so shure anymore.
I saw Andreas white screen and the x500 looked even better and more clear. And black still compleatly black and more and less CRT shutdown to 0ire.
I guess you have the marquee 9500 LC. If that is so need to check it out. Looked much better than the barco 909 from pictures. If you forget the colours. |
I forgot to mention it's a Marquee.
As for the x500 I think that most would be very happy with that pj.. me? I can't afford it without selling everything I own and just saved up for. So I'll wait patiently until 4K becomes affordable for the average man.
And for the life of me I can't understand how anyone could buy such an expensive pj like your 4k:s.. I figure you must take an enormous loss now. I saw one for 70000 SEK (about 10,000$) here in Sweden.. and that was over a year ago.
EDIT: Now I suddenly became unsure if was that price it went for. But when I saw it in the sell section in minhemmabio I thought to myself that it must have been a rich moron who sold it.
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Diddern
Joined: 02 Jun 2013 Posts: 821 Location: Norway
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| thewolfman wrote: | I have one more request, if you have it on Bluray.. the Great Gatsby. Stunning scenery throughout the movie it seems. I haven't seen it yet as I waiting for some parts. I don't want to waste that movie and many others with standard parts.
Redo this one if you could. |
thewolfman I would say it's good to see that someone on this forum
Can be a grownup. I am sorry about the pixel stuff my mistake earlier.
I was wrong there.
But the pixels were so not right on a CRT for me, I did not even look at the total picture hehe.
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thewolfman
Joined: 28 Mar 2011 Posts: 1311 Location: Sweden
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| Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Diddern wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | I have one more request, if you have it on Bluray.. the Great Gatsby. Stunning scenery throughout the movie it seems. I haven't seen it yet as I waiting for some parts. I don't want to waste that movie and many others with standard parts.
Redo this one if you could. |
thewolfman I would say it's good to see that someone on this forum
Can be a grownup. I am sorry about the pixel stuff my mistake earlier.
I was wrong there.
But the pixels were so not right on a CRT for me, I did not even look at the total picture hehe.
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No worries there, mate! We all make mistakes from time to time.
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Andreas21
Joined: 02 Oct 2013 Posts: 582
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| thewolfman wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | If your up to it.. shot me some more Baraka from the x500. |
Maby, but not today I think as it is friday evening and I will try to spend it with my family. And maby you can post the same picture from cars? I will also take some other screenshots and if you like you can post the same?? |
Sure, let's do this some other time. And feel free to post any images you like and I'll redo them later. And from now on, except tonight, I'll save them as PNG as I want to see if the pixels goes away or lessen the effect at least.
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I noticed JVC has much better and more vivid colors that of mine. CRT has its limitations it seems when looking at the smaller cars in the background. Digital does indeed appeal to me.
In all fairness, I have to much blue in this image as it was shot back when I was struggling to get the colors in order. |
And What's your screen size do you have and gain. |
It's crap. The cheapest you can get and pure vinyl. Very soft and impossible to wash off any smudge. I should have saved up some more and gotten something with a material that's woven.
No gain that I can see or advertised.
Multibrackets M Framed Projection Screen Deluxe 2.35:1 108" (254x108)
What do you have for screen? Happy with it?
My pj is original except for the Frankenyokes. Those things are probably what makes it good. I see no other explanation. |
I use a dnp supernova core2 0,85 d65
This helps the black level on the Sony vw1100 I had, but on the jvcx500 I am not so shure anymore.
I saw Andreas white screen and the x500 looked even better and more clear. And black still compleatly black and more and less CRT shutdown to 0ire.
I guess you have the marquee 9500 LC. If that is so need to check it out. Looked much better than the barco 909 from pictures. If you forget the colours. |
I forgot to mention it's a Marquee.
As for the x500 I think that most would be very happy with that pj.. me? I can't afford it without selling everything I own and just saved up for. So I'll wait patiently until 4K becomes affordable for the average man.
And for the life of me I can't understand how anyone could buy such an expensive pj like your 4k:s.. I figure you must take an enormous loss now. I saw one for 70000 SEK (about 10,000$) here in Sweden.. and that was over a year ago.
EDIT: Now I suddenly became unsure if was that price it went for. But when I saw it in the sell section in minhemmabio I thought to myself that it must have been a rich moron who sold it. |
I have very good connections in Sony so the loss is not that big, even after 3 years, but of course we take quite a big loss. This is a hobby and some hobbies cost more than HT.
You donīt have to send me your originals as I have no intention in going in the details in this.I understand your interest in CRT and I have nothing against it, but I get fed up when people start threads like this and donīt back it up with fact and proof. If I ever see a CRT I find better than the digitals I have owned and seen I will have no problem admitting it, but so far that has not happened even with screenshots.
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thewolfman
Joined: 28 Mar 2011 Posts: 1311 Location: Sweden
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | If your up to it.. shot me some more Baraka from the x500. |
Maby, but not today I think as it is friday evening and I will try to spend it with my family. And maby you can post the same picture from cars? I will also take some other screenshots and if you like you can post the same?? |
Sure, let's do this some other time. And feel free to post any images you like and I'll redo them later. And from now on, except tonight, I'll save them as PNG as I want to see if the pixels goes away or lessen the effect at least.
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I noticed JVC has much better and more vivid colors that of mine. CRT has its limitations it seems when looking at the smaller cars in the background. Digital does indeed appeal to me.
In all fairness, I have to much blue in this image as it was shot back when I was struggling to get the colors in order. |
And What's your screen size do you have and gain. |
It's crap. The cheapest you can get and pure vinyl. Very soft and impossible to wash off any smudge. I should have saved up some more and gotten something with a material that's woven.
No gain that I can see or advertised.
Multibrackets M Framed Projection Screen Deluxe 2.35:1 108" (254x108)
What do you have for screen? Happy with it?
My pj is original except for the Frankenyokes. Those things are probably what makes it good. I see no other explanation. |
I use a dnp supernova core2 0,85 d65
This helps the black level on the Sony vw1100 I had, but on the jvcx500 I am not so shure anymore.
I saw Andreas white screen and the x500 looked even better and more clear. And black still compleatly black and more and less CRT shutdown to 0ire.
I guess you have the marquee 9500 LC. If that is so need to check it out. Looked much better than the barco 909 from pictures. If you forget the colours. |
I forgot to mention it's a Marquee.
As for the x500 I think that most would be very happy with that pj.. me? I can't afford it without selling everything I own and just saved up for. So I'll wait patiently until 4K becomes affordable for the average man.
And for the life of me I can't understand how anyone could buy such an expensive pj like your 4k:s.. I figure you must take an enormous loss now. I saw one for 70000 SEK (about 10,000$) here in Sweden.. and that was over a year ago.
EDIT: Now I suddenly became unsure if was that price it went for. But when I saw it in the sell section in minhemmabio I thought to myself that it must have been a rich moron who sold it. |
I have very good connections in Sony so the loss is not that big, even after 3 years, but of course we take quite a big loss. This is a hobby and some hobbies cost more than HT.
You donīt have to send me your originals as I have no intention in going in the details in this.I understand your interest in CRT and I have nothing against it, but I get fed up when people start threads like this and donīt back it up with fact and proof. If I ever see a CRT I find better than the digitals I have owned and seen I will have no problem admitting it, but so far that has not happened even with screenshots. |
I agree that the digitals are sharper, but as for myself it's merely about how much sharper they are, and for that images like these can tell some about that and what we exchanged today. Those last request I have is just icing on the cake, but very interested in how they would look like without actually having to go buy it.
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redfox001
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My God on the digital section someone who bought a x500 says the blacklevel is worse than barco 701!!! No a decent 9 inch is far better than a 701 so these blacks must be absolutely terrible
Also in the screenshots look at the lack of detail in the face when you zoom. The crt has more resolution somehow the digital throw information away and cant reproduce it. You see all kinds of strange spicks in the fase apearing.
Don't fall for the marketing boys with the flat lifeless boring pics.
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