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Andreas21
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Andreas, Diddern.. And ecrab.. Like you all agree about the bandwidth, or timing thing on 4K. I think we just need to finish the bandwidth talk agreeing about how to reach the corect nr.
So if one of you just post a way to calculate it ill be pleased. Just make up some nr if you cant fint the right ones.
And you better all 3 agree about it before posting it.. |
I donīt want to finish it, but you are welcome to do it as it clearly is very important to you. I actually own a 4K display and donīt care I was just trying to make you understand that there is no bandwith limitations for showing 1080p resolution on the VW1000. So if you want to spend more time on this matter it is up to you, I donīt. I am sure you can find it somewhere on the net, but I did not find it. If I found it when I searched I would have posted it here. OK??  |
If you had found the timing nr on 4K wich ones would you then use to get the bandwidth.?
Its a bit like the questions about resolutions that none of you would tell, but you knew all along, after you were told.
This have developed more into a question if your just some wanabee boys, or you know a bit about the basic image stuff.
If you know you will just put up the formula and be done with it.. if you dont know, i guess you just put your head in the ground, or call others idiots and laugh of others equipment to get focus of your ignorance. |
I am clearly just a wannabe and have no clue in anything. And timing settings is not something We digital guys spend so much time with, but I have delt with it some years ago an the Crystallio II VPS 3800 I owned then and it looked something like this.
Verticaltotal: 1125
Verticalactive:1080
Verticalfront: 4
Verticalsync: 5
Verticalrate: 23.98
Horizontaltotal: 2750
Horizontalactive: 1920
Horizontalfront: 638
Horizontalsync: 44
Clock: 74175824
Progressive mode.
This is the setup of a 1080p timings, what the numbers for 4K is I donīt know. Ok??
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Andreas, Diddern.. And ecrab.. Like you all agree about the bandwidth, or timing thing on 4K. I think we just need to finish the bandwidth talk agreeing about how to reach the corect nr.
So if one of you just post a way to calculate it ill be pleased. Just make up some nr if you cant fint the right ones.
And you better all 3 agree about it before posting it.. |
I donīt want to finish it, but you are welcome to do it as it clearly is very important to you. I actually own a 4K display and donīt care I was just trying to make you understand that there is no bandwith limitations for showing 1080p resolution on the VW1000. So if you want to spend more time on this matter it is up to you, I donīt. I am sure you can find it somewhere on the net, but I did not find it. If I found it when I searched I would have posted it here. OK?? |
If you had found the timing nr on 4K wich ones would you then use to get the bandwidth.?
Its a bit like the questions about resolutions that none of you would tell, but you knew all along, after you were told.
This have developed more into a question if your just some wanabee boys, or you know a bit about the basic image stuff.
If you know you will just put up the formula and be done with it.. if you dont know, i guess you just put your head in the ground, or call others idiots and laugh of others equipment to get focus of your ignorance. |
I am clearly just a wannabe and have no clue in anything. Ant timing settings is not something ve digital guys spend so much time with, but I have delt with it some years ago an the Crystallio II VPS 3800 I owned then and it looked something like this.
Verticaltotal: 1125 Horizontaltotal: 2750 Progressive mode.
Verticalactive:1080 Horizontalactive: 1920
Verticalfront: 4 Horizontalfront: 638
Verticalsync: 5 Horizontalsync: 44
Verticalrate: 23.98 Clock: 74175824
This is the setup of a 1080p timings, what the numbers for 4K is I donīt know. Ok?? |
Perfect.
So i guess you now understand why i wondered where you got the 530Mhz from. when thats just the active pixel area X framerate
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Andreas21
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Andreas, Diddern.. And ecrab.. Like you all agree about the bandwidth, or timing thing on 4K. I think we just need to finish the bandwidth talk agreeing about how to reach the corect nr.
So if one of you just post a way to calculate it ill be pleased. Just make up some nr if you cant fint the right ones.
And you better all 3 agree about it before posting it.. |
I donīt want to finish it, but you are welcome to do it as it clearly is very important to you. I actually own a 4K display and donīt care I was just trying to make you understand that there is no bandwith limitations for showing 1080p resolution on the VW1000. So if you want to spend more time on this matter it is up to you, I donīt. I am sure you can find it somewhere on the net, but I did not find it. If I found it when I searched I would have posted it here. OK?? |
If you had found the timing nr on 4K wich ones would you then use to get the bandwidth.?
Its a bit like the questions about resolutions that none of you would tell, but you knew all along, after you were told.
This have developed more into a question if your just some wanabee boys, or you know a bit about the basic image stuff.
If you know you will just put up the formula and be done with it.. if you dont know, i guess you just put your head in the ground, or call others idiots and laugh of others equipment to get focus of your ignorance. |
I am clearly just a wannabe and have no clue in anything. Ant timing settings is not something ve digital guys spend so much time with, but I have delt with it some years ago an the Crystallio II VPS 3800 I owned then and it looked something like this.
Verticaltotal: 1125 Horizontaltotal: 2750 Progressive mode.
Verticalactive:1080 Horizontalactive: 1920
Verticalfront: 4 Horizontalfront: 638
Verticalsync: 5 Horizontalsync: 44
Verticalrate: 23.98 Clock: 74175824
This is the setup of a 1080p timings, what the numbers for 4K is I donīt know. Ok?? |
Perfect.
So i guess you now understand why i wondered where you got the 530Mhz from. when thats just the active pixel area X framerate |
I got the 530Mhz by searching on the internet, and since that was the only number I got and ecrab also wrote it here. Since I did not get the numbers for the complete timing and I donīt know what they are I agreed with ecrab. OK?
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Andreas, Diddern.. And ecrab.. Like you all agree about the bandwidth, or timing thing on 4K. I think we just need to finish the bandwidth talk agreeing about how to reach the corect nr.
So if one of you just post a way to calculate it ill be pleased. Just make up some nr if you cant fint the right ones.
And you better all 3 agree about it before posting it.. |
I donīt want to finish it, but you are welcome to do it as it clearly is very important to you. I actually own a 4K display and donīt care I was just trying to make you understand that there is no bandwith limitations for showing 1080p resolution on the VW1000. So if you want to spend more time on this matter it is up to you, I donīt. I am sure you can find it somewhere on the net, but I did not find it. If I found it when I searched I would have posted it here. OK?? |
If you had found the timing nr on 4K wich ones would you then use to get the bandwidth.?
Its a bit like the questions about resolutions that none of you would tell, but you knew all along, after you were told.
This have developed more into a question if your just some wanabee boys, or you know a bit about the basic image stuff.
If you know you will just put up the formula and be done with it.. if you dont know, i guess you just put your head in the ground, or call others idiots and laugh of others equipment to get focus of your ignorance. |
I am clearly just a wannabe and have no clue in anything. Ant timing settings is not something ve digital guys spend so much time with, but I have delt with it some years ago an the Crystallio II VPS 3800 I owned then and it looked something like this.
Verticaltotal: 1125 Horizontaltotal: 2750 Progressive mode.
Verticalactive:1080 Horizontalactive: 1920
Verticalfront: 4 Horizontalfront: 638
Verticalsync: 5 Horizontalsync: 44
Verticalrate: 23.98 Clock: 74175824
This is the setup of a 1080p timings, what the numbers for 4K is I donīt know. Ok?? |
Perfect.
So i guess you now understand why i wondered where you got the 530Mhz from. when thats just the active pixel area X framerate |
I got the 530Mhz by searching on the internet, and since that was the only number I got and ecrab also wrote it here. Since I did not get the numbers for the complete timing and I donīt know whart they are I agreed with ecrab. OK? |
Ok.. Then i guess you dident get the point.. no matter if you know the timings or not, one thing you can know for sure is that you need more than 530Mhz.
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stridsvognen
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Ohh and i wonder why anyone need to support 4K60hz input.?
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Andreas21
Joined: 02 Oct 2013
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Andreas, Diddern.. And ecrab.. Like you all agree about the bandwidth, or timing thing on 4K. I think we just need to finish the bandwidth talk agreeing about how to reach the corect nr.
So if one of you just post a way to calculate it ill be pleased. Just make up some nr if you cant fint the right ones.
And you better all 3 agree about it before posting it.. |
I donīt want to finish it, but you are welcome to do it as it clearly is very important to you. I actually own a 4K display and donīt care I was just trying to make you understand that there is no bandwith limitations for showing 1080p resolution on the VW1000. So if you want to spend more time on this matter it is up to you, I donīt. I am sure you can find it somewhere on the net, but I did not find it. If I found it when I searched I would have posted it here. OK?? |
If you had found the timing nr on 4K wich ones would you then use to get the bandwidth.?
Its a bit like the questions about resolutions that none of you would tell, but you knew all along, after you were told.
This have developed more into a question if your just some wanabee boys, or you know a bit about the basic image stuff.
If you know you will just put up the formula and be done with it.. if you dont know, i guess you just put your head in the ground, or call others idiots and laugh of others equipment to get focus of your ignorance. |
I am clearly just a wannabe and have no clue in anything. Ant timing settings is not something ve digital guys spend so much time with, but I have delt with it some years ago an the Crystallio II VPS 3800 I owned then and it looked something like this.
Verticaltotal: 1125 Horizontaltotal: 2750 Progressive mode.
Verticalactive:1080 Horizontalactive: 1920
Verticalfront: 4 Horizontalfront: 638
Verticalsync: 5 Horizontalsync: 44
Verticalrate: 23.98 Clock: 74175824
This is the setup of a 1080p timings, what the numbers for 4K is I donīt know. Ok?? |
Perfect.
So i guess you now understand why i wondered where you got the 530Mhz from. when thats just the active pixel area X framerate |
I got the 530Mhz by searching on the internet, and since that was the only number I got and ecrab also wrote it here. Since I did not get the numbers for the complete timing and I donīt know whart they are I agreed with ecrab. OK? |
Ok.. Then i guess you dident get the point.. no matter if you know the timings or not, one thing you can know for sure is that you need more than 530Mhz. |
I got the point! 
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Andreas21
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| Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Ohh and i wonder why anyone need to support 4K60hz input.? |
This is the spec for HDMI 2.0 at 8 bits that is why. And if we will ever need it I donīt know. Me personallly would prefer 4K 23.98hz with 12 bits or higher, but I think 12 bits is good enough. What the final 4K format will have I dont know yet.
And when I upgrade my VW1000 it will be HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 compatible that is why I asked for 4K 60Hz bandwith.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Your opinion appears to be worth very little to him too, so it seems youre even!! |
I said that to you!  |
And im saying back!! 5 times over with whate rabbit, no returns!!  |
Says the man with the 100" 4:3 screen! LOL! |
Shows how poor your eye sight and comprehension are doesnt it, its 125" and 5:4, with adjustable blanking too.
Considering more than half the content i display on my CRT is either 5:4 or 4:3, it seems quite fitting that i would use a screen that suits that aspect, wouldnt you think? Or would it be asking too much that youd expect me to want to use a full tube face to project my image? |
Iīm sorry about that, but I stopped watching 4:3 content a very long time ago. And I have 20/20 vision and it clearly says in your signature you have a 100" 4:3 screen and I also saw you have a 125" 5:4 screen. But enough of this!
I am a member of many forum sites and I have never visited a more hostile forum than this and I am surpriced how much bull**** is allowed.
And strisvognen I have told you many times: The only reason I asked about the bandwith of 4K 60Hz was to make you understand that the VW1000 has no bandwith limitations to show 1080p resolution fully. And if you want to find out the timings I wonīt stop you, but I wonīt spend any more time on this. Are you OK with that? |
Enough of what? When you dance with the devil, you wait til the song stops
We have a great time here, we all have fun, and thats what makes this forum great. If you dont like it or cant take it, TOUGH LUCK. Its the internet, its your problem if you want to be an uptight dickhead about the written word.
I dont give a f*** what you watch, i play retro games in 5:4 and 4:3, so why is that an issue? No one here cares if you stopped watching 4:3 sh*t years ago, does it make you a better human than me cause you only watch wide material and dont play games from 80s and early 90s?
Am i less of a human than anyone else cause i want a 100" 4:3 screen in my bedroom? Do you have a problem with my interest in that? Does it have some negative effect on your life?
Youve got abit of a superiority complex i think.
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Diddern
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Very well said Diddern..
Its very hard to argue with idiots that only post pictures and wont add nr or facts to the debate. And try to change focus to the more personal level, instead of finishing what he started when he run out of facts, or clearly dont hold any facts.
Stuff we talk about here are very well documented, and its all about understanding it.
Now if you understand it, you will also be able to explain it to others, if you just read it and dont understand it you will not be able to explain it to others.
Read the existing facts, and understand them.
Maybe start with resolution, and move on to timings, and make a nice trip around bandwidth in different aplications.
Play with a scope, get a idea what your looking at and what you can get out of a square signal..
As you start understanding just a bit about the basic of the video signal, your mind will open up, and you will get much better background to evaluate what you see on the screen, there is so many different parameters hiding.
Now i know your ansver will be something like you dont need to know, or you know it all.
If the later, i think we will be able to find a subject we dident tuch yet, and you can explain how works.
There is absolutly nothing wrong in not knowing or understanding whats going on, and just enjoy the image in front of you, but when debating with others about basic stuff, it shines far out that your full of opinions, but dont realy hold any understanding to basic facts.
You just scratched the surface.. There is a hole lot more digging to do.
And this is not about whats best, best image best projector.. Im refering to the tech behind it all and the understanding of it.
Your welcome to argue this. but please do so with some hardcore facts, nr or whatever you can document, instead of personal attacks and funny pictures to display your frustration about not knowing.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Yeah mate all jokes aside, i do agree, but at the same time i like to have a joke. And lets face it, why would i care if someone doesnt like my screen format? What i select to display my images is no indication of anything other than the fact i like to play retro games and dont want a 4:3 pattern worn into my 1.78:1 area. Besides that, with the blanking up, my screen is the same as any other 1.78:1 or 2.35:1 screen, and im using maximum tube face to do all 4 aspects. How can it be anything other than positive???
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Diddern
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | Very well said Diddern..
Its very hard to argue with idiots that only post pictures and wont add nr or facts to the debate. And try to change focus to the more personal level, instead of finishing what he started when he run out of facts, or clearly dont hold any facts.
Stuff we talk about here are very well documented, and its all about understanding it.
Now if you understand it, you will also be able to explain it to others, if you just read it and dont understand it you will not be able to explain it to others.
Read the existing facts, and understand them.
Maybe start with resolution, and move on to timings, and make a nice trip around bandwidth in different aplications.
Play with a scope, get a idea what your looking at and what you can get out of a square signal..
As you start understanding just a bit about the basic of the video signal, your mind will open up, and you will get much better background to evaluate what you see on the screen, there is so many different parameters hiding.
Now i know your ansver will be something like you dont need to know, or you know it all.
If the later, i think we will be able to find a subject we dident tuch yet, and you can explain how works.
There is absolutly nothing wrong in not knowing or understanding whats going on, and just enjoy the image in front of you, but when debating with others about basic stuff, it shines far out that your full of opinions, but dont realy hold any understanding to basic facts.
You just scratched the surface.. There is a hole lot more digging to do.
And this is not about whats best, best image best projector.. Im refering to the tech behind it all and the understanding of it.
Your welcome to argue this. but please do so with some hardcore facts, nr or whatever you can document, instead of personal attacks and funny pictures to display your frustration about not knowing. |
Was not meant to Andreas but that only make the words even stronger  But enough with that.
There is a lot of correct and bull**** talk here, and has nothing to do with topic.
And For shore you have a point, but when it comes to 4K the only one that can say this is Sony.
And the limitation should be in the 4K source I think.
And to post pictures is only asked for so I do not see that point. But I also see that some questions have been asked, but in my understanding that was only to state a point.
If I hear something I let you know. And this is only for learning .
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Diddern
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Yeah mate all jokes aside, i do agree, but at the same time i like to have a joke. And lets face it, why would i care if someone doesnt like my screen format? What i select to display my images is no indication of anything other than the fact i like to play retro games and dont want a 4:3 pattern worn into my 1.78:1 area. Besides that, with the blanking up, my screen is the same as any other 1.78:1 or 2.35:1 screen, and im using maximum tube face to do all 4 aspects. How can it be anything other than positive??? |
What you have has noting to do with this, and you have and you use what you like.
And in the middle of all this there were a lot of sh*t talk and therefore this outcome.
Vi must be more to the topic here or start another topic about all this spoken about.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Ohh and i wonder why anyone need to support 4K60hz input.? |
This is the spec for HDMI 2.0 at 8 bits that is why. And if we will ever need it I donīt know. Me personallly would prefer 4K 23.98hz with 12 bits or higher, but I think 12 bits is good enough. What the final 4K format will have I dont know yet.
And when I upgrade my VW1000 it will be HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 compatible that is why I asked for 4K 60Hz bandwith. |
Now i cant stop wondering why anything needs to be compatible for somthing that dont exist.
Is it not better to wait for a 4K standard, and then see if there will be a compatible upgrade to support it, or buy a new projector if it shows that its then outdated.?
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:35 am Post subject: |
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This thread is over 2 months old.. 42 pages, and there is no information or facts supporting the topic..
So maybe we need to spend the next 10 pages looking for Greg, and let him finish what he started..??
Greg where are you..??
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Diddern
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Ohh and i wonder why anyone need to support 4K60hz input.? |
This is the spec for HDMI 2.0 at 8 bits that is why. And if we will ever need it I donīt know. Me personallly would prefer 4K 23.98hz with 12 bits or higher, but I think 12 bits is good enough. What the final 4K format will have I dont know yet.
And when I upgrade my VW1000 it will be HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 compatible that is why I asked for 4K 60Hz bandwith. |
Now i cant stop wondering why anything needs to be compatible for somthing that dont exist.
Is it not better to wait for a 4K standard, and then see if there will be a compatible upgrade to support it, or buy a new projector if it shows that its then outdated.? |
The upgrade to hdmi 2.0 and hdcp 2.2 makes it compatible to the 4K that we have today and that is not much, and also maybe compatible to the format that will come. None knows. And if the format will change then with higher color spec or something else, it is just a upgrade away.
But the benefit on the 4K is not only 4K material, its also the fantastic experience of upscale blueray that will be on the marked for a long time still. And so close to real 4K on the VW10000 or VW1100 Every projector even the CRT is outdated when it comes to 4K and all the 1080P projectors that is out there.
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Diddern
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | This thread is over 2 months old.. 42 pages, and there is no information or facts supporting the topic..
So maybe we need to spend the next 10 pages looking for Greg, and let him finish what he started..??
Greg where are you..?? |
Hehe, he do not know what he started
His mods are god and much better than a original crt and I going up to luck at it in a couple of weeks.
But I know the answer before I go there. But I like to se it, and I know that its a super god CRT.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| Diddern wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Yeah mate all jokes aside, i do agree, but at the same time i like to have a joke. And lets face it, why would i care if someone doesnt like my screen format? What i select to display my images is no indication of anything other than the fact i like to play retro games and dont want a 4:3 pattern worn into my 1.78:1 area. Besides that, with the blanking up, my screen is the same as any other 1.78:1 or 2.35:1 screen, and im using maximum tube face to do all 4 aspects. How can it be anything other than positive??? |
What you have has noting to do with this, and you have and you use what you like.
And in the middle of all this there were a lot of sh*t talk and therefore this outcome.
Vi must be more to the topic here or start another topic about all this spoken about. |
Whether it is or not is not relevant, my point here is Andreas decided to take a shot at my selection of screens, so in doing that he invited me to make all the sh*t dribbling posts i like, and i dont mind taking full advantage of that fact
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Andreas21
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| Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | Very well said Diddern..
Its very hard to argue with idiots that only post pictures and wont add nr or facts to the debate. And try to change focus to the more personal level, instead of finishing what he started when he run out of facts, or clearly dont hold any facts.
Stuff we talk about here are very well documented, and its all about understanding it.
Now if you understand it, you will also be able to explain it to others, if you just read it and dont understand it you will not be able to explain it to others.
Read the existing facts, and understand them.
Maybe start with resolution, and move on to timings, and make a nice trip around bandwidth in different aplications.
Play with a scope, get a idea what your looking at and what you can get out of a square signal..
As you start understanding just a bit about the basic of the video signal, your mind will open up, and you will get much better background to evaluate what you see on the screen, there is so many different parameters hiding.
Now i know your ansver will be something like you dont need to know, or you know it all.
If the later, i think we will be able to find a subject we dident tuch yet, and you can explain how works.
There is absolutly nothing wrong in not knowing or understanding whats going on, and just enjoy the image in front of you, but when debating with others about basic stuff, it shines far out that your full of opinions, but dont realy hold any understanding to basic facts.
You just scratched the surface.. There is a hole lot more digging to do.
And this is not about whats best, best image best projector.. Im refering to the tech behind it all and the understanding of it.
Your welcome to argue this. but please do so with some hardcore facts, nr or whatever you can document, instead of personal attacks and funny pictures to display your frustration about not knowing. |
You have clearly no clue in what I know and understand in the techincal side and I am so fed up with you taking the teacher position. I have a high level of technical understanding and I have alot of experience with digital projectors and know about resolution, timings and bandwith and many other aspects. And I test alot of projectors and do side by side tests to determing wich is best in the different aspects of the picture. But I also have my limitations and admit I donīt have the knowledge to understand every different testpattern and so on.
What I find so difficult with you is that you will never stop even if I tell you to and you will never admit if you are wrong. And I think you think you know alot more than you actually know. To never give up is a good thing in many ways, but when people tell you to stop it is not. I know alot more than you think I know and you know alot less than you think and please stop trying to make me look like an clueless idiot.
And the personal attacks was started by someone else than me, but I am sorry for the attack on Corvetteman, but he started with calling me a clown.
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Yeah mate all jokes aside, i do agree, but at the same time i like to have a joke. And lets face it, why would i care if someone doesnt like my screen format? What i select to display my images is no indication of anything other than the fact i like to play retro games and dont want a 4:3 pattern worn into my 1.78:1 area. Besides that, with the blanking up, my screen is the same as any other 1.78:1 or 2.35:1 screen, and im using maximum tube face to do all 4 aspects. How can it be anything other than positive??? |
What you have has noting to do with this, and you have and you use what you like.
And in the middle of all this there were a lot of sh*t talk and therefore this outcome.
Vi must be more to the topic here or start another topic about all this spoken about. |
Whether it is or not is not relevant, my point here is Andreas decided to take a shot at my selection of screens, so in doing that he invited me to make all the sh*t dribbling posts i like, and i dont mind taking full advantage of that fact |
I am sorry for that, but you started with calling me a clown.
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