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Andreas21
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| CSX wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | CSX wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | CSX wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | mp20748 wrote: | Hey Diddern, shouldn't his hair and eyebrows be BLACK. As well, the subject for those shots were "Flesh tones"
Do you know what Flesh tones are, and that Chris Tucker's flesh tones, eyebrows and hair color is not accurate in your shot.
He is an entirely different complexion in your shot from his natural skin skin color. |
How can you know. was you in the sett when filming, my projector is calibrated with Delta E about 0.3-0,5 do not remember and I think that Chris would prefer looking normal and not a fried lobster. If you like Chris to look that way no one is stopping you, When Prossest down to Blu-ray it is Rec 709 and D 65 HDTV standard.
And my camera is not calibrated so I can't get how it looks on screen. And I don't hope that yours do not look like that. |
You can stop any day now. It's not like you are going to prove anything, nor win any arguments here.
If that's not obvious by now, you must be denser than diamond.
Accept your projector for what it is. We do ours. |
I accept what I see and I have no problem saying it. Tell me what you see when looking at those pictures. |
I hate to follow the bait, but here you go.
You want it, you get it.
What do I see when looking at those pictures?
Digital: Cold, sterile, sharp, unnatural.
CRT: Ridiculous color depth, good black representation, not so sharp, warm, more realistic image conveyance.
It's harder to really grasp the sharpness on CRT however over photos, so it's loosely interpreted.
I know for the fact that what I see on screen, I can really never take a picture that looks as good as what I get to see...
There is seems to be a "loss" of non critical detail, but critical detail exists enough in a capacity for one to see it and enjoy it at higher resolutions on CRT. I have been absolutely dazzled by what I get to witness on CRT projection, and my configuration isn't even remotely fine tuned or dialed in like Mike's or probably most setups around here.
Side note:
I'm also interested in seeing how well the JVC image panels hold up over time.
My Samsung UHD tv used to look pretty good when it was first new. The blacks are now nearly purples. |
What you guys say about color depth/resolution of a CRT is so far into fantasy land it is possible to go...
And comparing your Samsung UHD TV with a JVC is just ridiculous. I know people with JVC projectors with over 10000 hours on them and still "perfect". But to me it is not important as I have never used a projector more than 1000 hours before I sold it. |
I now know you are a 100% full of incorrect statements, and only choose to believe what you want to.
Commonly referred to as a Doubting Thomas amongst the people I know.
You are of this classification of person.
It's a shame you don't want to accept things for fact or face value. I'm spending no more time from this, and unsubscribing from this beyond ridiculous and useless discussion, as I am tired of seeing my email blow up, and realize how full of it you and your pet are.
Done.
So long and thanks for all the fish, jerk! |
Why do you guy always turn ugly and call me names?? 
And none of the CRT guys in here have posted any facts or proof in here. You only rely on screeshots. 
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Diddern
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To CSX
First Andreas has 2 dogs and do not need me.
Strange why everyone throw sh*t to us but no one says anything.
But I do not mind I stick to fact.
Please explain why he is wrong,,,I started with crt in 1998 together with many here in Norway.
And I can confirm everything that Andreas say.
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stridsvognen
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Nashou66 wrote: | Really? Whats wrong with that pic Kurt?
Athanasios |
If i stand next to a guy whos face look like that from the JVC, ill call a ambulance.
Is it sharp.. hell yeah.. is it natural.. hell no. The color resolution looks like something from a standard CRT machine.
I have a JVC, and i see new Digital projectors whenever possible, if i like one ill buy it.
I would also not go back to a standard CRT projector, but as you say. Some of it is the pleasure of playing with the hardware, and endless options, and as your skills improve, so do the image.
Even a blend with a visible blend zone and all that noise a standard CRT video chain can have is still not as annoying as the overly sharp image with its digital noise. |
I donīt think you know what color resolution is.  |
When you calibrate, do you use a low resolution pattern,?
Do you think any processor you can buy will be able to process the correction data pr pixel real time, or do you think they just say.. Hey these guys are so stupid they wont notice.? |
Dou you really think the JVC will have problems with the color resolution on a BD. If it was 4:4:4 the JVC would show it as it is meant.
And concerning rec709, what do you have to do with your CRT to make it able to show it? |
Nothing.. its just there, as is the gamma response.
Now no digital have any gamma response that is not software based, so its kind of a processor mapping the gamma curve, and your able to re map it with the calibration features in the digital domain.
We just run the standard native digital signal into a dac, and then set our G" and drive, and then the analog response wil fit the format.
You need a processor to do the work.
Some even have a extra processor in the digital chain to mess the source material up a extra time, as the projector wont do a good job mapping the response right.
And in the end you have a analog panel, i know they call it digital, but how do you think they activate the output on each pixel in the panel.?
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Yeah right! 
If you ask a pro calibrator you will get a very different answer.
I know of the analogue paneldrivers of the JVC. But I have actually owned a projector with digital paneldrivers, but I know you donīt know what projector that is. And I wonder wht your point is with this?? |
My point is that there is no processor you can buy that will correct each pixel in real time.
You can correct a low resolution window, and measure it to be right.
What do you think happens when you then trow a complex image into that processor.? Will it come out perfect.?
Why did you not keep the DLP.? |
What are you talking about? I donīt use a prosessor. I used to own a Lumagen, but after I found out what it does to color resolution and colors near black I sold it for cheap.
I have not owned a DLP since 2006, and I donīt like DLPīs due to the very poor on/off contrast and black level performance. Other than that DLP technology have a lot of positives to it and when they come up with a HDR DLP I might give it a try again.
And your CRT is perfect in every way except from very poor MTF, very poor ansi/intrascene contrast, very poor sharpness, very poor clarity, very poor depth to the image, very poor detail in HD, very poor color reproduction, very poor brightness, very poor calibration capabilities (actually need external CMS to get good results), poor shadow detail+++
Shall I continue??  |
You dont use a processor.? How is the CMS in the JVC working then.. Dont it have a build in processor.?
Why would i need a external CMS.? I dont have a standard Barco projector, you have no clue what my projector is capable off.
But please explaint to me what you know about my Marquee.? What VIM do you think i should use in it.? Or what dac is the best one.?
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Andreas21
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Nashou66 wrote: | Really? Whats wrong with that pic Kurt?
Athanasios |
If i stand next to a guy whos face look like that from the JVC, ill call a ambulance.
Is it sharp.. hell yeah.. is it natural.. hell no. The color resolution looks like something from a standard CRT machine.
I have a JVC, and i see new Digital projectors whenever possible, if i like one ill buy it.
I would also not go back to a standard CRT projector, but as you say. Some of it is the pleasure of playing with the hardware, and endless options, and as your skills improve, so do the image.
Even a blend with a visible blend zone and all that noise a standard CRT video chain can have is still not as annoying as the overly sharp image with its digital noise. |
I donīt think you know what color resolution is. |
When you calibrate, do you use a low resolution pattern,?
Do you think any processor you can buy will be able to process the correction data pr pixel real time, or do you think they just say.. Hey these guys are so stupid they wont notice.? |
Dou you really think the JVC will have problems with the color resolution on a BD. If it was 4:4:4 the JVC would show it as it is meant.
And concerning rec709, what do you have to do with your CRT to make it able to show it? |
Nothing.. its just there, as is the gamma response.
Now no digital have any gamma response that is not software based, so its kind of a processor mapping the gamma curve, and your able to re map it with the calibration features in the digital domain.
We just run the standard native digital signal into a dac, and then set our G" and drive, and then the analog response wil fit the format.
You need a processor to do the work.
Some even have a extra processor in the digital chain to mess the source material up a extra time, as the projector wont do a good job mapping the response right.
And in the end you have a analog panel, i know they call it digital, but how do you think they activate the output on each pixel in the panel.?
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Yeah right!
If you ask a pro calibrator you will get a very different answer.
I know of the analogue paneldrivers of the JVC. But I have actually owned a projector with digital paneldrivers, but I know you donīt know what projector that is. And I wonder wht your point is with this?? |
My point is that there is no processor you can buy that will correct each pixel in real time.
You can correct a low resolution window, and measure it to be right.
What do you think happens when you then trow a complex image into that processor.? Will it come out perfect.?
Why did you not keep the DLP.? |
What are you talking about? I donīt use a prosessor. I used to own a Lumagen, but after I found out what it does to color resolution and colors near black I sold it for cheap.
I have not owned a DLP since 2006, and I donīt like DLPīs due to the very poor on/off contrast and black level performance. Other than that DLP technology have a lot of positives to it and when they come up with a HDR DLP I might give it a try again.
And your CRT is perfect in every way except from very poor MTF, very poor ansi/intrascene contrast, very poor sharpness, very poor clarity, very poor depth to the image, very poor detail in HD, very poor color reproduction, very poor brightness, very poor calibration capabilities (actually need external CMS to get good results), poor shadow detail+++
Shall I continue?? |
You dont use a processor.? How is the CMS in the JVC working then.. Dont it have a build in processor.?
Why would i need a external CMS.? I dont have a standard Barco projector, you have no clue what my projector is capable off.
But please explaint to me what you know about my Marquee.? What VIM do you think i should use in it.? Or what dac is the best one.? |
So your Marquee has a perfect Color Management System and you can calibrate gamma and grayscale to perfection according to bt709?? What colorimeter, spectroradiometer and testpattern generator do you use when you calibrate?
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Diddern
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Stridsvognen you newer answer questions you just ignore when you have problem to answer.
1. Why do you mean that Barco is very bad compared to marquee. I want to know and I think Barco cine9 909 owners want to know.
2. Why do you have to use color fluid or color lenses or color c element on CRT? Then red and green.
When I started I used first filters that I put in front of the lens.
That was many years before you even seen a CRT
3. Is it so hard to say that you are lost here. You really make a good figure for all CRT enthusiasts.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Nashou66 wrote: | Really? Whats wrong with that pic Kurt?
Athanasios |
If i stand next to a guy whos face look like that from the JVC, ill call a ambulance.
Is it sharp.. hell yeah.. is it natural.. hell no. The color resolution looks like something from a standard CRT machine.
I have a JVC, and i see new Digital projectors whenever possible, if i like one ill buy it.
I would also not go back to a standard CRT projector, but as you say. Some of it is the pleasure of playing with the hardware, and endless options, and as your skills improve, so do the image.
Even a blend with a visible blend zone and all that noise a standard CRT video chain can have is still not as annoying as the overly sharp image with its digital noise. |
I donīt think you know what color resolution is. |
When you calibrate, do you use a low resolution pattern,?
Do you think any processor you can buy will be able to process the correction data pr pixel real time, or do you think they just say.. Hey these guys are so stupid they wont notice.? |
Dou you really think the JVC will have problems with the color resolution on a BD. If it was 4:4:4 the JVC would show it as it is meant.
And concerning rec709, what do you have to do with your CRT to make it able to show it? |
Nothing.. its just there, as is the gamma response.
Now no digital have any gamma response that is not software based, so its kind of a processor mapping the gamma curve, and your able to re map it with the calibration features in the digital domain.
We just run the standard native digital signal into a dac, and then set our G" and drive, and then the analog response wil fit the format.
You need a processor to do the work.
Some even have a extra processor in the digital chain to mess the source material up a extra time, as the projector wont do a good job mapping the response right.
And in the end you have a analog panel, i know they call it digital, but how do you think they activate the output on each pixel in the panel.?
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Yeah right!
If you ask a pro calibrator you will get a very different answer.
I know of the analogue paneldrivers of the JVC. But I have actually owned a projector with digital paneldrivers, but I know you donīt know what projector that is. And I wonder wht your point is with this?? |
My point is that there is no processor you can buy that will correct each pixel in real time.
You can correct a low resolution window, and measure it to be right.
What do you think happens when you then trow a complex image into that processor.? Will it come out perfect.?
Why did you not keep the DLP.? |
What are you talking about? I donīt use a prosessor. I used to own a Lumagen, but after I found out what it does to color resolution and colors near black I sold it for cheap.
I have not owned a DLP since 2006, and I donīt like DLPīs due to the very poor on/off contrast and black level performance. Other than that DLP technology have a lot of positives to it and when they come up with a HDR DLP I might give it a try again.
And your CRT is perfect in every way except from very poor MTF, very poor ansi/intrascene contrast, very poor sharpness, very poor clarity, very poor depth to the image, very poor detail in HD, very poor color reproduction, very poor brightness, very poor calibration capabilities (actually need external CMS to get good results), poor shadow detail+++
Shall I continue?? |
You dont use a processor.? How is the CMS in the JVC working then.. Dont it have a build in processor.?
Why would i need a external CMS.? I dont have a standard Barco projector, you have no clue what my projector is capable off.
But please explaint to me what you know about my Marquee.? What VIM do you think i should use in it.? Or what dac is the best one.? |
So your Marquee has a perfect Color Management System and you can calibrate gamma and grayscale to perfection according to bt709?? What colorimeter and spectroradiometer do you use when you calibrate? |
Color management system.. What to use that for.?
We will not get red spot on, we can over or under saturate it a bit, depending if we use a red Celement or not.
Yes we can get a perfect grayscale, specialy with some attention to the analog video chain, thanks to Mike.
So we can benefit from running the signal right out of the player into a dac, and then let the natural analog gamma response do its magic.
You dont use a processor.? How is the CMS in the JVC working then.. Dont it have a build in processor.?
What CRT projectors have you owned.?
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Diddern
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Andreas21
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Nashou66 wrote: | Really? Whats wrong with that pic Kurt?
Athanasios |
If i stand next to a guy whos face look like that from the JVC, ill call a ambulance.
Is it sharp.. hell yeah.. is it natural.. hell no. The color resolution looks like something from a standard CRT machine.
I have a JVC, and i see new Digital projectors whenever possible, if i like one ill buy it.
I would also not go back to a standard CRT projector, but as you say. Some of it is the pleasure of playing with the hardware, and endless options, and as your skills improve, so do the image.
Even a blend with a visible blend zone and all that noise a standard CRT video chain can have is still not as annoying as the overly sharp image with its digital noise. |
I donīt think you know what color resolution is. |
When you calibrate, do you use a low resolution pattern,?
Do you think any processor you can buy will be able to process the correction data pr pixel real time, or do you think they just say.. Hey these guys are so stupid they wont notice.? |
Dou you really think the JVC will have problems with the color resolution on a BD. If it was 4:4:4 the JVC would show it as it is meant.
And concerning rec709, what do you have to do with your CRT to make it able to show it? |
Nothing.. its just there, as is the gamma response.
Now no digital have any gamma response that is not software based, so its kind of a processor mapping the gamma curve, and your able to re map it with the calibration features in the digital domain.
We just run the standard native digital signal into a dac, and then set our G" and drive, and then the analog response wil fit the format.
You need a processor to do the work.
Some even have a extra processor in the digital chain to mess the source material up a extra time, as the projector wont do a good job mapping the response right.
And in the end you have a analog panel, i know they call it digital, but how do you think they activate the output on each pixel in the panel.?
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Yeah right!
If you ask a pro calibrator you will get a very different answer.
I know of the analogue paneldrivers of the JVC. But I have actually owned a projector with digital paneldrivers, but I know you donīt know what projector that is. And I wonder wht your point is with this?? |
My point is that there is no processor you can buy that will correct each pixel in real time.
You can correct a low resolution window, and measure it to be right.
What do you think happens when you then trow a complex image into that processor.? Will it come out perfect.?
Why did you not keep the DLP.? |
What are you talking about? I donīt use a prosessor. I used to own a Lumagen, but after I found out what it does to color resolution and colors near black I sold it for cheap.
I have not owned a DLP since 2006, and I donīt like DLPīs due to the very poor on/off contrast and black level performance. Other than that DLP technology have a lot of positives to it and when they come up with a HDR DLP I might give it a try again.
And your CRT is perfect in every way except from very poor MTF, very poor ansi/intrascene contrast, very poor sharpness, very poor clarity, very poor depth to the image, very poor detail in HD, very poor color reproduction, very poor brightness, very poor calibration capabilities (actually need external CMS to get good results), poor shadow detail+++
Shall I continue?? |
You dont use a processor.? How is the CMS in the JVC working then.. Dont it have a build in processor.?
Why would i need a external CMS.? I dont have a standard Barco projector, you have no clue what my projector is capable off.
But please explaint to me what you know about my Marquee.? What VIM do you think i should use in it.? Or what dac is the best one.? |
So your Marquee has a perfect Color Management System and you can calibrate gamma and grayscale to perfection according to bt709?? What colorimeter and spectroradiometer do you use when you calibrate? |
Color management system.. What to use that for.?
We will not get red spot on, we can over or under saturate it a bit, depending if we use a red Celement or not.
Yes we can get a perfect grayscale, specialy with some attention to the analog video chain, thanks to Mike.
So we can benefit from running the signal right out of the player into a dac, and then let the natural analog gamma response do its magic.
You dont use a processor.? How is the CMS in the JVC working then.. Dont it have a build in processor.?
What CRT projectors have you owned.? |
You use a CMS to set the primary and secondary colors correct, and to really get things correct you use a 3D LUT. I have 4013 points corrected on my JVC. And then we have a 21 point grayscale/gamma correction. My JVC was very good out of the box and needed very little correction, but as I am a perfectionist we did the complete calibration with the eeColor.
You clearly have no idea when it comes to calibration, but as long as it can show black with alot of blackcrush and waaay out on the fields gamma it is ok.
I have never owned a CRT, because when I started with this a Barco 909 or later a Cine9 or your beloved Marquee 9500LC cost around 100.000$ here in Norway and I could not afford that. And when I could, digitals had gotten much better than any CRT modifyed or not.
And as usual you ignore my questions. What colorimeter, spectroradiometer and signal generator do you use when you calibrate your CRT?
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Diddern
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Diddern
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Stridsvognen you newer answer questions you just ignore when you have problem to answer.
1. Why do you mean that Barco is very bad compared to marquee. I want to know and I think Barco cine9 909 owners want to know.
2. Why do you have to use color fluid or color lenses or color c element on CRT? Then red and green.
When I started I used first filters that I put in front of the lens.
That was many years before you even seen a CRT
3. Is it so hard to say that you are lost here. You really make a good figure for all CRT enthusiasts.
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Diddern
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Now im off for today,
Stridsvognen I look forward so reed your answers tomorrow. Maybe I have to peek before I go to bed after a movie on my sh*tty JVC
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jbmeyer13
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| Diddern wrote: | Stridsvognen you newer answer questions you just ignore when you have problem to answer.
1. Why do you mean that Barco is very bad compared to marquee. I want to know and I think Barco cine9 909 owners want to know.
2. Why do you have to use color fluid or color lenses or color c element on CRT? Then red and green.
When I started I used first filters that I put in front of the lens.
That was many years before you even seen a CRT
3. Is it so hard to say that you are lost here. You really make a good figure for all CRT enthusiasts. |
1. It lacks the BW of a Marquee with a modified video chain. The 909's has excellent lenses and convergence system which help it achieve very good foreground focus (for a CRT). The lack of BW effects the background detail and resulting depth of image.
2. You use color filtered elements to make the primaries richer. CRT was originally designed for use with standard def SMPTE. Colored C-elements have always been superior to colored glycol or filters that go on the front of the lenses.
You ask for a lot of "proof" but the reality is that this entire argument hinges on personal opinion. The JVC is clearly sharper in the foreground and in your opinion is the most natural looking image with the most depth of field. No one is arguing that the JVC shots are sharper in the foreground but many feel that the CRT provides a more natural looking depth of field. Neither side will be able to prove this one way or the other
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stridsvognen
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| Andreas21 wrote: |
You use a CMS to set the primary and secondary colors correct, and to really get things correct you use a 3D LUT. I have 4013 points corrected on my JVC. And then we have a 21 point grayscale/gamma correction. My JVC was very good out of the box and needed very little correction, but as I am a perfectionist we did the complete calibration with the eeColor.
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I know how the CMS systems work.
Is your CMS processor able to remap and correct each pixel in a complex image real time without any compromise.?
And how many processors do you have in your signal chain.? Name and location please.?
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tanwn1
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You must be joking, IMHO I personally feel a Barco cinemax, cine9 is the 1st on the list in CRT ranking and even without mod is better than a marquee or in fact any 9incher, no offence to non barco owners. Especially colorwise, focus to the corners, clarity etc. My barco cinemax shots are much much clearer than those shown above except it cant match JVC in MTF and detail that's for sure. Your shots above also has clipping on the whites, or whitecrush.
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stridsvognen
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| tanwn1 wrote: | | You must be joking, IMHO I personally feel a Barco cinemax, cine9 is the 1st on the list in CRT ranking and even without mod is better than a marquee or in fact any 9incher, no offence to non barco owners. Especially colorwise, focus to the corners, clarity. My barco cinemax shots are clearer than those shown above except it cant match JVC in MTF and detail that's for sure |
How did you run the Marquee you used.?
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tanwn1
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Just by looking at the screenshots posted here, it's is indeed very lacking compared to the JVC and not even close to my Barco cinemax
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Andreas21
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: |
You use a CMS to set the primary and secondary colors correct, and to really get things correct you use a 3D LUT. I have 4013 points corrected on my JVC. And then we have a 21 point grayscale/gamma correction. My JVC was very good out of the box and needed very little correction, but as I am a perfectionist we did the complete calibration with the eeColor.
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I know how the CMS systems work.
Is your CMS processor able to remap and correct each pixel in a complex image real time without any compromise.?
And how many processors do you have in your signal chain.? Name and location please.? |
No, I dont think you know that.
Why do you ask. The eeColor is true 10bit.
I have told you my signal chain before and will not do it again.
And why do you not answer my question? What colorimeter, spectroradiometer and signal generator do you use when you calibrate your Marquee?
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| jbmeyer13 wrote: | | CRT was originally designed for use with standard def SMPTE. |
This is a very important point.
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Andreas21 wrote: |
You use a CMS to set the primary and secondary colors correct, and to really get things correct you use a 3D LUT. I have 4013 points corrected on my JVC. And then we have a 21 point grayscale/gamma correction. My JVC was very good out of the box and needed very little correction, but as I am a perfectionist we did the complete calibration with the eeColor.
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I know how the CMS systems work.
Is your CMS processor able to remap and correct each pixel in a complex image real time without any compromise.?
And how many processors do you have in your signal chain.? Name and location please.? |
No, I dont think you know that.
Why do you ask. The eeColor is true 10bit.
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Lets finish this first.
A few posts back you had no external CMS.. What is that eeColor ?
I was not asking about bit, i was asking do your CMS processors have the power to remap/ correct each pixel real time with no compromise or loss.?
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stridsvognen
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| Andreas21 wrote: | | jbmeyer13 wrote: | | CRT was originally designed for use with standard def SMPTE. |
This is a very important point. |
Yeah.. How is it the SMPTE compared to REC 709.?
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