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gjaky
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| Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:34 pm Post subject: which lens for a to-be marquee 9500? |
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A friend of mine recently acquired a minty Marquee 6500 (!!!) projector, and he is interested in converting to a 9500, but his screen has 165cm (65") width, this seems to fall out of every HD10's range, any solution?
Those who are curious about the marquee 6500 I can tell it is basically a 8500 without astig. Built in 1997, has -02p VIM, standard VNBs, DPB U7 has 5.2 ver so probably go up to 130kHz scanrate (but not proven yet).
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Tim in Phoenix
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Hello
HD10L is the best shot, I would have to try one to confirm it would work that small. Zone stig is not that hard to add.
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I used the table attached bellow, this shows the HD10L good 120-150cm screen width, others are all 180cm and up.
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the big E
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I have the HD-10L on my 10pg and they could do better but then again I hadn't zeroed out everything in the set at said time(electronics focus is one that I had to zero out)
Now I am also in the process of converting my 8110+ to a 9500Lc and curt didn't suggest the HD-10L it is a the higher rated lens g12 version I think
How is the zone stig easy to add?
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gjaky
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| the big E wrote: | | How is the zone stig easy to add? |
You need an add in card for the CLM, and a slide in card that is connecting to the CVA board on the heat sink, but you have to assure you have coils on the tubes that also have astig windings.
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the big E
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| gjaky wrote: | | the big E wrote: | | How is the zone stig easy to add? |
You need an add in card for the CLM, and a slide in card that is connecting to the CVA board on the heat sink, but you have to assure you have coils on the tubes that also have astig windings. |
Mine doesn't have the astig windings as my marquee is a 8110+
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gjaky
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| the big E wrote: | | gjaky wrote: | | the big E wrote: | | How is the zone stig easy to add? |
You need an add in card for the CLM, and a slide in card that is connecting to the CVA board on the heat sink, but you have to assure you have coils on the tubes that also have astig windings. |
Mine doesn't have the astig windings as my marquee is a 8110+ |
You can't be so sure, I had a Marquee 7500 (european name for the 8110), that had astig windings on the green tube for example, but the astig boards missed of course, I also read someone else had the right yokes on all tubes, so I guess this depends somewhat on luck.
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the big E
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| gjaky wrote: | | the big E wrote: | | gjaky wrote: | | the big E wrote: | | How is the zone stig easy to add? |
You need an add in card for the CLM, and a slide in card that is connecting to the CVA board on the heat sink, but you have to assure you have coils on the tubes that also have astig windings. |
Mine doesn't have the astig windings as my marquee is a 8110+ |
You can't be so sure, I had a Marquee 7500 (european name for the 8110), that had astig windings on the green tube for example, but the astig boards missed of course, I also read someone else had the right yokes on all tubes, so I guess this depends somewhat on luck. |
I have pulled the blue tube to check when I had to add glycol in it and the windings only have the plugs for the non astig sets(can check again but I am sure it doesn't have them)
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gjaky
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The blue actually doesn't worth the hassle, if you have astig on green and red that is plenty enough.
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the big E
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| gjaky wrote: | | The blue actually doesn't worth the hassle, if you have astig on green and red that is plenty enough. |
I will check those tubes next time I have the top off the set
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Im in the excact same boat with my 8110+ though im concentrating on getting it going first before i start modding...
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the big E
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Guys here is the cost to convert our 8inch sets to 9500s
Tubes- $1500 for a brand new set.
Metal plates- $150 a set.
Lenses- $150 to 1000, depending on the model.
Astig boards to make it a 9500=- $250.
This info is straight from curt himself
Now some of the stuff may be findible in certain sets(eg astig in a 8500)
Tubes, lens and mounting hardware are the main differences
Ps once you get the HD-10 lens I think you can't go no smaller then a 120 diagonal screen
How do I know that my nec 10pg has the HD-10L lens and they don't like going small
But the benefits of a 9 inch lc optics set is great
No halos around small bright objects(I noticed it on mine tonight as I watched my local Labor Day celabration boomsday and the network had a live logo on the screen and the halo like to drove me crazy during the whole program but watching the fireworks on my huge screen made me feel like I was there that and my 600 watts 10inch sub 
I love my marquee and can't wait to get my nec going so I can get used to 9 inch lc tubes before I convert my marquee to 9's
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What about HQF-900? I dont know how small you can go with those. That screen is very small.
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the big E
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | What about HQF-900? I dont know how small you can go with those. That screen is very small. |
I never looked at the specs on those but it would be worth looking if it will work with smaller screens as currently my nec has the HD-10L lens and they won't even focus below a certain screen size and I would like to use a smaller screen then my 10 foot screen with my nec
I wouldn't mind useing the HD-10s on my marquee when I change it over but I am not going to be using a smaller screen with it
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the big E
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Update I looked and the lens you mentions case would be the perfect choice for my plans for my nec
I am going to set it up with a smaller screen and use it with games and maybe a movie ever so often
Now to fix my Ecp(darn neck board socket on the blue tube melted due to overheating before I got my new fans  )and I will be ready for the board for my nec then I will have all of my sets fixed
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It wont have melt due to fans mate, they dont do that much.
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the big E
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | It wont have melt due to fans mate, they dont do that much. |
What do you think caused?
I do know it has been squealing and arcing since plus it is emitting a foul oder(my guess is ozone)
Though I have another issue with it right now and am afraid to use it due to risk of nukeing the tubes(the hdm is acting crazy showing a h inhibit)
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | What about HQF-900? I dont know how small you can go with those. That screen is very small. |
They are almost the same minimum as the GT17.. around 2m wide.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:47 am Post subject: |
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At 2.27m wide ive still got a fair range of lower adjustment.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| the big E wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | It wont have melt due to fans mate, they dont do that much. |
What do you think caused?
I do know it has been squealing and arcing since plus it is emitting a foul oder(my guess is ozone)
Though I have another issue with it right now and am afraid to use it due to risk of nukeing the tubes(the hdm is acting crazy showing a h inhibit) |
High resistance joint causing heat or a short.
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