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mx83toy
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 don't tempt me I got 2 cine 7s!!! Might do a stack
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benareeno
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Location: ottawa, canada
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I did a few more tests tonight...I think a Blu-ray looks better at 480p, but mkv's seem to benefit from 720p (and these are 720p mkv's). Maybe the full bitrate 480p is the sweet spot. I don't notice more detail at 720p...just a bit more noise, and seemingly less contrast. These aren't huge differences, just slight.
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mx83toy
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I'll give 480p and 576p another go tonight and see what i get... what bluray / scene are you using... i found the extra detail in avatar at 720 over 1080i ie first flight i'm getting more detail in the leaves of the trees and stuff... also have this older hd scape disk i use that shows off a coral reef this scene is 1080i @ 30 and im outputing to the cine7 @ 720p/60 and getting more detail in the fish.... easpecially ones in the background..... its the background stuff for me thats looking better....
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| joatmon wrote: | | mx83toy wrote: | | Screen is a 200 dollar china special that's 2 Meters wide!!! (6 foot for metrically challenged) |
There is always someone with a bigger screen around on this forum. 
Mine is made of counter top laminate and is 2.5m wide. I win until the next guy with a 708/Cine7 and a bigger screen posts.  |
You win, but im much brighter at 2.27m wide, although i bet mine is taller than yours
I ran the XG at 1280x768p @75Hz for a while on 3D, but ended up changing to 1366x768p @72 Hz instead.
For standard 2D content, it was all done at 1920x1080i @60Hz, which most certainly looked nicer than using 1366x768p @72Hz.
On the 9PG, i used 1920x1080i @60Hz for bluray and all movies from a PC, but DVDs from the bluray player looked better at 576p @50Hz, the odd US region DVD i have looked very coarse in 480p @60Hz, so i ran those in 1080i @60Hz ( DVDs in a 576p 50Hz format would display at 50Hz in 1080i and i couldnt change that. )
On the Cine 9 i run everything at 1920x1080p @60Hz, and its quite fine.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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MX, when you make it up this way i'll show you what a well set up perfectly astigd Sony VPH-1001 QM with Delta TAC-4 lenses can do with composite video from ex-rental VHS
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mx83toy
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | On the Cine 9 i run everything at 1920x1080p @60Hz, and its quite fine. |
Show off .... 
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benareeno
Joined: 22 Mar 2006
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I'm not observing in terms of scrutinizing the screen for detail...I'm just observing an overall better picture.
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joatmon
Joined: 17 Mar 2009
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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| Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | joatmon wrote: | | mx83toy wrote: | | Screen is a 200 dollar china special that's 2 Meters wide!!! (6 foot for metrically challenged) |
There is always someone with a bigger screen around on this forum.
Mine is made of counter top laminate and is 2.5m wide. I win until the next guy with a 708/Cine7 and a bigger screen posts. |
You win, but im much brighter at 2.27m wide, although i bet mine is taller than yours
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I have an embarrassing confession to make. I can't convert from inches to meters properly.  2.08m is my screen width. 
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joatmon
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Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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| mx83toy wrote: | | I'll give 480p and 576p another go tonight and see what i get... what bluray / scene are you using... i found the extra detail in avatar at 720 over 1080i ie first flight i'm getting more detail in the leaves of the trees and stuff... also have this older hd scape disk i use that shows off a coral reef this scene is 1080i @ 30 and im outputing to the cine7 @ 720p/60 and getting more detail in the fish.... easpecially ones in the background..... its the background stuff for me thats looking better.... |
You know, in a way I'm glad my Cine7 takes about 15-20mins for its convergence to settle down. Since I can't tweak anything until it warms up sufficiently, that gross error distracts my mind early enough from other anomalies that by the time I could do something about it, I don't care anymore because the mis-convergence is gone and I've moved on to enjoying the flick instead of the picture I'm looking at.
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mx83toy
Joined: 14 Dec 2012
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | MX, when you make it up this way i'll show you what a well set up perfectly astigd Sony VPH-1001 QM with Delta TAC-4 lenses can do with composite video from ex-rental VHS |
Cant wait... PS I think im coming up to Gold Coast over the Chrissy break and need to pop in to see a bloke at Wynum to pick up a 708s i bought months ago Once i got dates we'll tee it up. . .
I mucked around playing my blurays @ 480i/p and 576p then watched a movie at 1080i and found myself switching back to 720P so far 720P is giving me the best picture... and i really think im going to stop there with it... i kinda over it as the gains are minimal either way.... so back to movies for me for a couple more weeks till my marquee parts get here then it all starts again!!!! lol
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fragzero
Joined: 30 Aug 2012
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Isn't a Cine 7 with fresh tubes supposed really sharp? EM level sharp? (untill 2000-3000 hours).
On my 808 1080i is definitely nicer than 720P! 480/576P isn't even close and i get massive scanlines.
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CasetheCorvetteman
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
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Location: Australia
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| joatmon wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | joatmon wrote: | | mx83toy wrote: | | Screen is a 200 dollar china special that's 2 Meters wide!!! (6 foot for metrically challenged) |
There is always someone with a bigger screen around on this forum.
Mine is made of counter top laminate and is 2.5m wide. I win until the next guy with a 708/Cine7 and a bigger screen posts. |
You win, but im much brighter at 2.27m wide, although i bet mine is taller than yours
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I have an embarrassing confession to make. I can't convert from inches to meters properly. 2.08m is my screen width. |
Thats no worries mate ill still be brighter with the extra length for greater smoothness ( sounds like something i read on the side of the Rothmans cigarette packet!! )
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tschaeikaei
Joined: 08 Apr 2013
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I'm the next guy with a 2,6m screen and a Graphics 801s.
I drive it over PC (Powerstrip ATI GPU) @ 1080i 40,3Hz.
My scanlines are visible on each CRT and on the screen.
Regards, Julian
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mx83toy
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So when has a crt'er ever left their machine be lol so got got playing again and thought maybe i'll try a smaller screen size so.... i moved the projector in and went to roughly a 75-80 inch screen and BAM!!! the picture looks great!!! so i'm in the market for an 80" screen now... but im going to wait till the Marquee is up and running to see what it looks like before i go swapping screens im back to running 1080i/60 and it looked great so far...I didn't really spend much time in the room as my daughter was carrying on a little so i had to help the wife out but i'll get a good pic tonight and maybe take a few pics...
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Well i did, with both my NECs... And thats cause they dont take much to be perfect, then they stay where you left them
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mx83toy
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1080i poping off the screen now!!!! use the formulas and mechanical alignment specs barco tell you too... they know thier sh*t
Here are some pics that dont come close to doing any justice but it looks amazing now!!!
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