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opv
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: |
That is not all i said, go back and read it again to see what i said about the experience i have with my Barco. Using 5 parallel runs of quad shield RG6 coax about 6 meters in length, doesnt matter if i put the MOOME there, or at the projector, result is identical, and its not just the poor Barco input boards or it would be the same with the PC.
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I lost you here.
Please describe the comparison again.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Cant you just go back and read it on the previous page? 
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Nashou66
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opv
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Cant you just go back and read it on the previous page? |
Maybe later. 
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Ill give you a short version.
Barco CineMAX, image quailty as follows:
Panasonic bluray player > MOOME V3 ext box: 7 out of 10
HTPC > MOOME V3 ext box: 7 out of 10
Both sources as above but now > Harman/Kardon AVR > MOOME V3: 7 out of 10
Both sources as above > H/K AVR, HD Fury 3: 7 out of 10
HTPC > quadshield RG6 coax > Barco: 9 out of 10
RUNCO DTV991 ( NEC XG 852 )
Panasonic bluray player > internal MOOME: 9 out of 10
As above > external MOOME: 7-8 out of 10.
HTPC RGB > RGB input 9 out of 10
HD Fury 3 did simular results to external MOOME at 7 out of 10
Nash, no good comparing different resolutions or refresh, also must be the V3 box.
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opv
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | Ill give you a short version.
Barco CineMAX, image quailty as follows:
Panasonic bluray player > MOOME V3 ext box: 7 out of 10
HTPC > MOOME V3 ext box: 7 out of 10
Both sources as above but now > Harman/Kardon AVR > MOOME V3: 7 out of 10
Both sources as above > H/K AVR, HD Fury 3: 7 out of 10
HTPC > quadshield RG6 coax > Barco: 9 out of 10
RUNCO DTV991 ( NEC XG 852 )
Panasonic bluray player > internal MOOME: 9 out of 10
As above > external MOOME: 7-8 out of 10.
HTPC RGB > RGB input 9 out of 10
HD Fury 3 did simular results to external MOOME at 7 out of 10
Nash, no good comparing different resolutions or refresh, also must be the V3 box. |
Thanks,
That does drop the theory of bad analog inputs on the barco.
I had different experience, but maybe the analog outputs on the HTPC I used weren't that good.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Also, get a shot using the analog output from a good quality PC.
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Nashou66
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fragzero
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Also, get a shot using the analog output from a good quality PC. |
It's getting pretty confusing with all the different opinions here. I might have to get some BNC cables to the the analog out found on my Lumagen HDP (with BNC addon).
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the big E
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| fragzero wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Also, get a shot using the analog output from a good quality PC. |
It's getting pretty confusing with all the different opinions here. I might have to get some BNC cables to the the analog out found on my Lumagen HDP (with BNC addon). |
What they mean is see if the issue goes away when using a pc to the projector
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fragzero
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What they mean is see if the issue goes away when using a pc to the projector |
Because the Dac=process on a PC card is of better quality as the moome card Dac-process. Might be worth comparing my lumagen hdp to my 2008 eisemann dvi mod.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| fragzero wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Also, get a shot using the analog output from a good quality PC. |
It's getting pretty confusing with all the different opinions here. I might have to get some BNC cables to the the analog out found on my Lumagen HDP (with BNC addon). |
BNC is a type of connection, its not a cable type. Buy a roll of good quality RG6 and make your own cables.
Big E, youre close, but im not saying an "issue" as such, im saying image quality is reduced. Im also saying its noticed only on the externals, both forms of internals tested on my XG yield the same result.
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WTS
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Hi Nashou,
Long time no hear, how are you doing?
Wow, it's been a long long time since I modded the Barco input board to accept one of Moomes cards. As for what I was feeding it, it was always 1080P/60, I didn't have a source for 72hz. As for the power supply feed, I just beefed it up component wise(on both boards) and tied it into the PS on the RGB input board. I do recall I had to make a sub board to get the syncs correct. But I'll be damned if I can remember exactly what I did as that was probably 6 years ago(or so). As for the RGB inputs I tied them directly into the RGB input stages on the switcher board. The RGB/switcher input board was reworked fairly extensively though. And she looked real good.
I don't even know where that Zenith 1200 is, Curt picked it up from me over a year ago, (which he still owes me for, hint hint, maybe he'll read this thread, lol).
As for the port 3 input I never used it just because it was poorly designed in my opinion. Then on the other hand Barco never designed it to be a HQ input. If someone is having black level issues when using the port 3 i/p it wouldn't surprise me.
As for running it at xxx/72hz, I never heard of anyone having problems with that.
Don't know if I helped any,
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CasetheCorvetteman
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I have heard there is variations in quality between port 3 and port 5 on a Barco, but not in my case with the CineMAX, both are identical.
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WTS
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I guess it all depends on the source quality to be able to tell if they are equal. In my experience they weren't.
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WTS
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No real secret, just used the right combination of components(inductors/caps/beads) in the right locations and it tends to help things out. I think or thought I had passed this on to you in the past.
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Nashou66
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| WTS wrote: | | No real secret, just used the right combination of components(inductors/caps/beads) in the right locations and it tends to help things out. I think or thought I had passed this on to you in the past. |
No, i dont own a Barco so I never needed to know.
All I know that my Ext HD still in its case works fine with any res I throw at it.
Must be something when put internal..... maybe with out the metal case it pics up some EFI from the PJ. Your addition of inductors caps and beads must have removed that noise .
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Yes, I know you didn't own a Barco(my mind hasn't slipped that much since then, lol) those additional components are pretty much universal as far as what piece of equipment you use them in. SO they would work equally well in your Marquee. I know the Moome card I had installed internally wasn't picking up any noise.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| WTS wrote: | | I guess it all depends on the source quality to be able to tell if they are equal. In my experience they weren't. |
No, it depends on the model of Barco as much as anything else!!
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