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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:11 am Post subject: |
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NO F***KEN REPLACEMENT!!! What part are you missing here!!! Use one off another tube!!!
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the big E
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | NO F***KEN REPLACEMENT!!! What part are you missing here!!! Use one off another tube!!! |
Ok explain why I can't just get a replacement at a glass shop
I asked curt and he said it wouldn't hurt to do that
I was going to have the replacement cut to the same specs(size and thickness wise) as the old one
Your confusing me here 
Plus I had a time getting it off the tube as it was and I don't want to risk another tube
Is it tempered glass or what?
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:30 am Post subject: |
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The 07MS tubes i have here all have a coating on the glass. Plus you have a surplus of the damn things, why buy another piece of glass that youve allready got?
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the big E
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:01 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | The 07MS tubes i have here all have a coating on the glass. Plus you have a surplus of the damn things, why buy another piece of glass that youve allready got? |
Because it is less time consuming to do it that way plus if I have a tube fail I can just swap it out
I only have one blue tube(07ms already in the set) a 07ms red and green and four sd187 tubes(red and green two is in the set)
Plus I was afraid I would break the damn glass if I tried to remove it from the tube(the broken peice I removed from the tube had cracked in a different place as I was removing it now would I want to take that risk with the other tubes)
Mine didn't (none have a coating on the glass) unless it is a lamanate coating(the sucker crumbled in a place as I was removing it nowhere near where the damage happened and now have little glass shards I have to find  because of that)
Believe me its not something that you would really want to do twice to two tubes(removing the glass that is)
Post a pic of the coating on the tubes(none of mine have a coating but the tube with the damaged glass did have that rare tinted glycol but I bought some glycol from curt when I got the tubes(may transfer the tinted glycol from the sd187 tubes as the ones in the set have the tinted glycol(also sd187 tubes) not sure yet if I want orangey reds and dull greens(I had a tv that didn't have a colored c element on the red tube and the reds looked orangey even though the tv had circuitry in it to compensate for it)
I am not I repast not taking the risk with the glass on one of the other tubes(if it was a worn tube I might but these are mint with no wear at all) so the glass stays with the tubes
I can wait till Monday or longer if I have to
Also what silicone is needed for this I need to know if I got the right kind today
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Its not hard to remove the glass. The coating cant be seen in pics, scratch it with a screw driver and youll see it. Mine all have it.
I wouldn't be too concerned with the coloured glycol improving your image much, unless your room is perfect, youll hardly even be able to tell. If at all.
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the big E
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | Its not hard to remove the glass. The coating cant be seen in pics, scratch it with a screw driver and youll see it. Mine all have it.
I wouldn't be too concerned with the coloured glycol improving your image much, unless your room is perfect, youll hardly even be able to tell. If at all. |
I will look and see on the old glass(not sure if it does or not though I will look for sure) but as far as my viewing room its pitch black dark when I am using the projector(I have controlled lighting
If the glass has a coating I may see if curt can send me one off of a toasted tube
Removing the glass wasn't hard it just broke into small peices as I was removing it from the tube where it had for damaged
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mc86
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TV/Projector: ECP 4500 (Vidikron box), ECP4500+, wanting 07MS/07MTS, evaluating pc soft-blend
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Bummer on that glass breakage.
I used 3M super black. It is a bit expensive, but is pretty awesome stuff.
Note in this thread that you need only get the glass super clean and not quite so much the metal housing. Don't scratch the metal, if at all possible.
Also, be sure to let the silicone cure for several days -- not just 24hrs. I recall reading (but couldn't find) that being important.
Finally, this thread shows Curt mentioning some procedural bits so as not to crack your replacement on install.
cheers,
Matt
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the big E
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| mc86 wrote: | Bummer on that glass breakage.
I used 3M super black. It is a bit expensive, but is pretty awesome stuff.
Note in this thread that you need only get the glass super clean and not quite so much the metal housing. Don't scratch the metal, if at all possible.
Also, be sure to let the silicone cure for several days -- not just 24hrs. I recall reading (but couldn't find) that being important.
Finally, this thread shows Curt mentioning some procedural bits so as not to crack your replacement on install.
cheers,
Matt |
I am not in a hurry to swap out the tubes just yet  since that takes time(which I don't have)to do
I got the glass swapped and I am letting the tube sit face down as to apply pressure(I aligned it and taped it in place before I left it to cure) I think by the time I am ready to put the tube in the projector I won't have to worry but I am going to leak test it before I put glycol in it(don't want to ruin the projector in the process)
Didn't scratch the glass(I was worried about doing that though)
I am going to read the pages you linked for the day I may have to do this again(hopefully never again)
I hope some of us got to see some fireworks this fourth(I didn't due to rain  ) but I did get to enjoy a movie at least(till the projector did the arcing noise and shut the tubes off)
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the big E
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| Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:58 am Post subject: |
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Here is a pic of the old glass I have since replaced it(this shot was with it still on the tubes cooling chamber)
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Silicone would've fixed that 
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the big E
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Silicone would've fixed that |
Being sarcastic I see nice
Silicon wouldn't save it its to far gone
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