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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:23 am    Post subject:

Why cant you do it? Laughing
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:25 am    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
Why cant you do it? Laughing


Not good with a soldiering gun(I have a av recivier the a guy gave me and I have yet to fix it because of this)

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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:31 am    Post subject:

But youve been doing this since you were 8 and youre now 25, its time you learn how to solder, starting with how to spell it. The rest will come easy, watch some youtube videos.
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:44 am    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
But youve been doing this since you were 8 and youre now 25, its time you learn how to solder, starting with how to spell it. The rest will come easy, watch some youtube videos.


I know I need to learn to do it but I don't want to make my projector my first thing to learn on

Mostly I did was adjust and swap out parts(never had to solder due to easy to get replacement parts)

I replaced the high voltage power supply in my Ecp today so I am tired which causes me to make mistakes so if I ever misspell I am either in a rush or tired

I am glad curt had the part I needed for it
But the board I have in the set is one he sent me(which sucks as I was hoping for it to work fully)at least I get video and grids on the red and blue tubes so I know the board works just needs new caps

I do have the old board that was in the set I may try my hand on it(just would hate to screw it up)

I got some spare boards from curt I am using the gain board I got from him but the one that was in the set is in worser shape(most likely same issue)

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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:17 am    Post subject:

Try it on the AV receiver.
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:26 am    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
Try it on the AV receiver.


Ok I will as soon as I get the replacement parts it needs(one channel has shorted amp chips)and the time to do it

Not sure what I will be doing next week and working three hours non stop without caffeine didn't do me much good but I got the high voltage power supply replaced in my ecp(1 repaired and one to go) so I am going to be enjoying the Ecp this weekend since I couldn't much back of this because of the hv leak

I even got replacement parts for the samsung tv I have since I couldn't repair the ones from the set(the tube was a lose due to broken neck) without proper diagrams

But as soon as I can get ahold of a cap list and the right caps I will set into it after I repair the av recivier(its a Harman/kardon)

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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:41 am    Post subject:

On second thoughts, dont f*** up a H/K, find something else to practice on. Laughing
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Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:16 pm    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
On second thoughts, dont f*** up a H/K, find something else to practice on. Laughing


I figured you would say that Laughing

I don't have anything else that needs repair just my nec and the av receiver and I don't want to mess up either

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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:09 pm    Post subject:

the big E wrote:
Not good with a soldiering gun(I have a av recivier the a guy gave me and I have yet to fix it because of this)


Well, a soldering gun kills everything! You'd better use a soldering IRON.

So does your spelling (it just killed my erection) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:13 pm    Post subject:

SisterOfMercy wrote:
the big E wrote:
Not good with a soldiering gun(I have a av recivier the a guy gave me and I have yet to fix it because of this)


Well, a soldering gun kills everything! You'd better use a soldering IRON.

So does your spelling (it just killed my erection) Twisted Evil Twisted Evil


Very funny

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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:14 pm    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
You can run 15.7kHz into the RGB on almost every set except the Cine 9, 909, 919, 912, and RUNCO DTV 1200. You dont need to use composite video, just connect to RGB.


I'm not sure. I think you can use standard 15.6 kHz video for the 909. It also has composite and y/c inputs, but these are only connected when using the optional decoder. Of course it would be fed to the internal line doubler, but have yet not seen any reason why it wouldn't do the ear-splitting 15.6 kHz. Perhaps I missed something in the service manual? Confused

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:39 am    Post subject:

The range of the Cine 9 and others i mensioned is 30-132kHz and 180kHz for 909 and 912, they dont do 15 without the internal doubler.
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:55 am    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
The range of the Cine 9 and others i mensioned is 30-132kHz and 180kHz for 909 and 912, they dont do 15 without the internal doubler.


Good! At least they won't make you deaf when not finding a source Twisted Evil
Got to find that switch on my PJ Very Happy

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:46 am    Post subject:

I cant hear the 15.7kHz ringing anyway, and the fans on the XG would be making sure of that!
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:03 pm    Post subject: Cap List for 10PG

Here is a list of the caps for the 10PG. A few are missing and there are a few extras for another project I was working on but the bulk of what is needed to cap a 10PG is here with the exception of the power supply in the belly of the beast.


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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:27 pm    Post subject:

To say it again; do not use a soldering gun, use a soldering iron.

This is a soldering gun:
http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/55008.jpg

This is an iron:
http://www.tandyonline.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/n/antex-cs18-iron.png
(albeit a bit too low in power)

A gun will probably kill ICs like there's no tomorrow.

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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: Cap List for 10PG

Zolzar wrote:
Here is a list of the caps for the 10PG. A few are missing and there are a few extras for another project I was working on but the bulk of what is needed to cap a 10PG is here with the exception of the power supply in the belly of the beast.


holy crap thats a huge list Shocked i am glad i only have to three boards as my friend did the others but i may have to get someone to do it

i downloaded it on my laptop for future use

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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:26 am    Post subject:

SisterOfMercy wrote:
To say it again; do not use a soldering gun, use a soldering iron.

This is a soldering gun:
http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/55008.jpg

This is an iron:
http://www.tandyonline.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/n/antex-cs18-iron.png
(albeit a bit too low in power)

A gun will probably kill ICs like there's no tomorrow.


i get those two mixed up almost every time but i have a iron(its most likely low on power but i think its 800 watts not sure i will have to check) but it is a compact unit compared to the one in the link(tandy is a radioshack store brand or used to be not sure if they still carry tandy)

my dad has a soldering gun and i am not going to be using it anytime soon (don't want to kill any ICs Mr. Green )

i picked one up after talking to a electronics repair guy about repairing a h/k receiver(needs new amp chips on one channel)still haven't ordered the parts to fix it yet(even though i have the sucker tore apart ready to do the work)

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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:50 am    Post subject:

800 watts my arse!!
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:58 am    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
800 watts my arse!!

Maybe they meant in P.M.P.O Very Happy

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