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gjaky
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| Nashou66 wrote: | | gjaky wrote: | This is indeed an interesting piece of equipment as a whole mostly because the tracking abilities, but just for an RP setup it sucks, as Barco and even Ampro offered better RP sets as they were LC and with high resolution tubes. I don't want to bantering on the marquee (this time  ) but in this setup it can't reach its full potential. |
Not true, I have a 9500LC Retro III. |
Ok, that's indeed nice, but this immersa desk used a 8" AC.
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stridsvognen
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What 8" barco and ampro models can resolve higher resolutions than a 8500AC.?
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gjaky
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | What 8" barco and ampro models can resolve higher resolutions than a 8500AC.? |
Barco Retro Graphics 808s
Ampro Retro 3600
Ampro Widescreen Retro 3600
All of these used a sort of P16 high resolution tubes, coupled with HD117 lenses which are also very high performance lenses compared to HD8 (but they have short throw), so when we talk about spot size, yes, these mentioned pjs probably all better (in bandwidth probably not, but that is less important), so for that particular setup I think they are better, but you barely pull out those pjs out of the chassis for custom use, while the marquee is more usable in this case if you pull out from that structure, and use it alone. That's all what I was to say.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:43 am Post subject: |
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What resolution and bandwidth was needet for those setups.?
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gjaky
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The immersa desk brochure reported 1280x1024 resolution as typical, but not sure what resolution was suggested for 3D.
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Tim in Phoenix
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| gjaky wrote: | | This is indeed an interesting piece of equipment as a whole mostly because the tracking abilities, but just for an RP setup it sucks, as Barco and even Ampro offered better RP sets as they were LC and with high resolution tubes. I don't want to bantering on the marquee (this time ) but in this setup it can't reach its full potential. |
Guys
You are missing the entire point----Immersa DESK----the screen is on a 45 degree slant like a drafting table, never intended for anything but 3D stuff.
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ecrabb
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| Tim in Phoenix wrote: | | You are missing the entire point----Immersa DESK----the screen is on a 45 degree slant like a drafting table, never intended for anything but 3D stuff. |
Exactly. This isn't an RPTV at all; it's a design and visualization tool. People working on architecture, engineering, biomedical, etc. could load their 3D models into this, wear shutter glasses, then use a stick to "fly" around, or inside their models to visualize it in a manner that's much different from viewing it on a computer display. It's much more immersive, which gives the viewer(s) a sense of space, scale, relationships, etc... It was essentially a smaller, lighter, portable, less expensive version of a "VR cave" (google it).
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mx83toy
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Yep the people that had this machine in their back yard in the the Bronx of Sydney actually thought it was a tv tried using it once then Gave up... Well that's what the guy poking his head over the fence said... Either way a pair of pliers a 13mm and 14mm spanner and 99 cents fixed that  8110 in my garage is slowly being disassembled and cleaned waiting to be fired up again
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mx83toy
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ok so cleaning the boards..... do i soak the boards in denatured alcohol (mentholated spirits to the Aussies) then scrub? scrub first then rinse in alcohol??? any vids you can point me too???? i was thinking of getting a big squreish container...dipping the board in and out whilst scrubbing until clean then allowing to dry ....does this sound about right???
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the big E
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| mx83toy wrote: | | ok so cleaning the boards..... do i soak the boards in denatured alcohol (mentholated spirits to the Aussies) then scrub? scrub first then rinse in alcohol??? any vids you can point me too???? i was thinking of getting a big squreish container...dipping the board in and out whilst scrubbing until clean then allowing to dry ....does this sound about right??? |
I would soak first then scrub
I have never seen a immerse desk in person can you upload a pic(if you got the whole cabinet with the projector)if not I guess I will end up googling it 
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CasetheCorvetteman
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There is links to pictures of them in this thread.
I have washed arcade and console game boards in the dish washer and dried before testing and never done any damage yet, not that im suggesting you try it without someone else in the know also suggesting it is safe.
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gjaky
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The CLM has a lithium battery on it, so that should be avoided from soaking.
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stridsvognen
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i would be carefull with the CLM, and HDM.
focus convergence, VIM, motherboard, LVPS, HVPS and vertical board can be washed in isopropyl alcohol, or something like that.. scrubbed with a soft toothbrush, flush it a few times with alco when scrubbed, and blow it dry with some compressed air, but not the spray stuff.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| gjaky wrote: | | The CLM has a lithium battery on it, so that should be avoided from soaking. |
No moisture on powered boards yes...
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Spanky Ham
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Scott said they used to wash boards in the dishwasher as well.
I used a cleaner with dishwashing liquid, alcohol and water. I would then dry them and use compressed air to blow out any remaining water.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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I also blow them off with the compressor as a rule. The dishwasher brings the boards up like new in most cases.
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the big E
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Forgot about the powered boards when I mentioned dipping them in my previous post
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mx83toy
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Ok so today I stripped it down and get why people love working on em!! It's all clean and should be reassembled by tonight... Really can't wait to power it and see if she's ok.. It's actually coming up better than I thought so as long as power suppies are good it should work... Tubes look mint btw too
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Use a long extention lead when you turn it on and stand back, incase it explodes in flames.... 
Youd think that was a dead issue, but i test emergency lighting ive repaired that way now...
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