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[stridsvognen]

I wonder if a REC 2020 will be any real benefit.. first we need higher bit dept. And how much is needet to beat REC 709 8 bit. And i guess its all comes down to how much space we will have on disc, or the download time.

So if REC 2020 wont bring better color graduation, i would not care much.

For now i need a REC 601. REC 709. and PAL SECAM color profile to fit my different sources.. So im not in a hurry to wish for more.

[Curt Palme]

I'll add my 2 cents here. I saw my first sony 4K projector yesterday at the customer that pulled out two Runco 1200s stacked on an approx 10' wide screen. He had the 1200s since about 2002 and judging from the lack of tube wear, I'm guessing he had 3000-4000 hours on them. His motivation for changing of course was lack of tweaking, as he brought a calibrator down from Michigan once a year.

Now, the source was 1080i component, as that's what the whole house was wired for back in 2002, I'l start another thread tonight on his whole house system.

He loved the 1200s, but ugraded about 3 months ago I think. We watched a few minutes of a football game. He's a big fan, and records every football game out there.

The Sony is the quietest digital I've ever (not) heard. I thought it didn't power up due to lack of noise, then I saw the pix out of it. Definitely a plus.

While I didn't notice this at CEDIA, his reds were off. They reminded me of old LCD projectors, where the red isn't bright, but a darker wine colored red. Totally annoying, but of course I did n't say anything.Considering I didn't see the same issue at CEDIA, , maybe it was this one projector, or something to do with the source.

Second, and more annoying was the misconvergence in the upper right corner. It wasn't mich, but I saw it at about 12' back. If I had bought the projector, I would have rejected it.

Also, the light areas were a bit washed out. again, could be a signal source, definitely an issue, but I didn't see this either at CEDIA.

My guess is that once he converts his HT to HDMI signal, the color issues will go away, leaving the convergence as a problem.

[Curt Palme]

I'll add my 2 cents here. I saw my first sony 4K projector yesterday at the customer that pulled out two Runco 1200s stacked on an approx 10' wide screen. He had the 1200s since about 2002 and judging from the lack of tube wear, I'm guessing he had 3000-4000 hours on them. His motivation for changing of course was lack of tweaking, as he brought a calibrator down from Michigan once a year.

Now, the source was 1080i component, as that's what the whole house was wired for back in 2002, I'l start another thread tonight on his whole house system.

He loved the 1200s, but ugraded about 3 months ago I think. We watched a few minutes of a football game. He's a big fan, and records every football game out there.

The Sony is the quietest digital I've ever (not) heard. I thought it didn't power up due to lack of noise, then I saw the pix out of it. Definitely a plus.

While I didn't notice this at CEDIA, his reds were off. They reminded me of old LCD projectors, where the red isn't bright, but a darker wine colored red. Totally annoying, but of course I did n't say anything.Considering I didn't see the same issue at CEDIA, , maybe it was this one projector, or something to do with the source.

Second, and more annoying was the misconvergence in the upper right corner. It wasn't mich, but I saw it at about 12' back. If I had bought the projector, I would have rejected it.

Also, the light areas were a bit washed out. again, could be a signal source, definitely an issue, but I didn't see this either at CEDIA.

My guess is that once he converts his HT to HDMI signal, the color issues will go away, leaving the convergence as a problem.

[Jeremy112]

You sure did Curt, 2 posts

[ElTopo]

1080i is not watchable on a Cine9 too many scanlines.

[HogPilot]

[Diddern]

[Curt Palme]

I would assume it was, he just bought it, and it's a 4K projector. I do understand that component 1080i is meaningless and pointless, that's why I mentioned it, as that's how his HT is wired. He will change it down the road he says.

[Curt Palme]

I would assume it was, he just bought it, and it's a 4K projector. I do understand that component 1080i is meaningless and pointless, that's why I mentioned it, as that's how his HT is wired. He will change it down the road he says.

[Diddern]

[ElTopo]

Watched some demo stuff on a sony 4K tv today.

3840 x 2160p


Very impressive but still the lack of film content.

[Diddern]

[ElTopo]

The question for me is if it makes sense to:

1) downscale 4K material to 2 K (Blu-Ray)
2) upscale the compressed 2K material again to 4K


ElTopo

[Diddern]

[thewolfman]

Next year JVC will have their first 4K projector out. I'll bet they call it 8K for their use of e-shift.

[Diddern]

[ElTopo]

Watched "After Earth" blu-ray on my Cine9 and have to say once again that this maschine is the absolute reference when it comes to picture quality.

Projectors i had in the past: BG801s, Barco 701, Barco Cine7, BG808, Barco Cine8, Marquee9500LC Ultra

Got also some impressions from actual projector line ups like JVC but none of these can compare.

Have to see the Sony VW1000/1100 and the VW500......


BTW: movie was bad

[Diddern]

[ElTopo]

As i wrote i have to see the VW1000 and VW500 hopefully soon....

And until then the Cine9 is reference

[Diddern]

[stridsvognen]

[Diddern]