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What kind of Marquee 9500LC is this..??
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stridsvognen
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:51 pm    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
Ok, I just find it odd that I see no issues with Black. I use a 2.35 Gamma when I calibrate. And Black is Black. And I have an AC machine which i would think would not do as nice of Black as the LC machines.

Athanasios


Do you have a vim with no mod,? I like my gamma around 2.25, and im 110% sure there is better Black details and dept in the Picture with no mod.

And 2nd i think the gamma curve is much easier to get nice with no mod. I prefer not to use the Radiance gamma corection in the low ende, maybe ill ende with a calibration where i just use the Radiance overall gamma setting.

I think this might depends of preferences, and not right or wrong.

The most amasing about CRT is to me the way it can make Black, and no color banding / polution, i have some very dificoult scenes i like to use for testing that.. I have never seen any Digital handle that.. Even pro calibrated, and autocalibrated JVC with 125 point CMS.

Operation Valkyrie on BD the opening scene with the close up of the nazi flag.. You feel the dept and details in that flag like it was right in front of you.. Well try it on any digital and you will see why i love CRT.

That movie is alt the way a perfect test for all sides of calibration..
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:58 pm    Post subject:

I do have a Vim with no Mod and I get the line when gamma is below 2.3. That is one reason i use 2.35 and I feel the colors are less washed out at that setting. I used to use 2.4 and set from 20 IRE down to 2.3. But now I find that 2.33 or 2.35 the best all the way from 10-100. But i do that for different reasons. I can get the blend zone more invisible with that Gamma.

But I never liked any gamma below 2.3 for CRT, colors looked washed out on my AC machine, LC might be different.

Athanasios

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stridsvognen
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:12 pm    Post subject:

Like i say.. Its all about taste, but for sure you get less visible Black details with a higher gamma. The line is anoying, but i see it as living with the lesser of 2 evils.. And the high gamma is just not for me. And a 2.23-2.25 gamma is a bit more like walking a line, if you step a bit to the side, its all a visible mess.. I think you will go for a lower gama with LC.. Im sure you will let us know when time comes.. Wink
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject:

I think it makes sense to run a high gamma with the mod instaled. its then possible to keep a lower G2 value, WHO helps hiding the elevated Black.

If you plug a moddet vim in a machine setup for a non moddet vim you will se how much light there is on your tubes with a 0 IRE test image. Its a lot. So u need to lower the G2 some to get the tubes dark again.
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stridsvognen
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:25 pm    Post subject:

Now i have change all boards in the Ultra to older non ultra boards, and tonight ill try see if i can get some usable calibration results with more light output, and decent gray scale run.

I just finished playing with the 2 different VIM. Found out that when i removed sync on green the unstable shaking image disapeer from the vim with trimpots.

But.. Im stuck with max contrast on 50, and when changing to my other 02VIM where i changed a few caps, i can put contrast up to 70-75 with nice result.. The trimpot VIM makes the green line Bloom like crazy, 2-3x wide or more. around 60

Exiting day .. Very Happy
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:40 am    Post subject:

Anyone want to make a offer that i cant resist.?

Set of late ULTRA boards and PS.
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 1:48 pm    Post subject:

KURT!!! WTF are you doing!!!!!????

Put those all back in now!!!!!!

OMG!!!!

If you can not be responsible with a Marquee you should not have bought one!! Wink

But honestly, its not any boards or sh*t like that. Youll get better results once you get rid of the yellow Glycol.

Nashou

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stridsvognen
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 2:09 pm    Post subject:

Damn that was a slow response.. Sure ill never sell any of those boards.. just teasing.

I dont know if the glycol is yellow, it looks fine and clean true the lenses, and i dont have any glycol, so ill be stuck for some time with what i got.

Maybe when i get my new green tube from Curt ill put that one in ans see what happens.
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject:

If you want to sell the focus board, I'll take that in partial trade towards the tube....
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stridsvognen
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 2:47 pm    Post subject:

Curt Palme wrote:
If you want to sell the focus board, I'll take that in partial trade towards the tube....


Sorry was just joking with you guys.. Im going to put all the boards back now one by one.

My dream is to have 2X 9500LC Ultra mounted side by side in my new HT, and play with both.. if it dont hurt the Picture pushing them off center.

Then i would have the option to play with stacking, but most important i could have one always calibrated and ready to go..

Now it can take weeks with the projector all messed up when changing something, or modding boards..

Just a dream so far.. first i would have to push the one here off center and see what happens.
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 1:54 am    Post subject: "Set of late ULTRA boards and PS."

i am new to here, but I am interested in buying the set, what is the asking price? Thanks.
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 5:36 am    Post subject: Re: "Set of late ULTRA boards and PS."

osdag01 wrote:
i am new to here, but I am interested in buying the set, what is the asking price? Thanks.


There is no Price.. !!
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stridsvognen
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:33 am    Post subject:

I see i never explained the reason of why this projector was resolving 1080P 60hz so bad.

I had to change the green tube, it was born with a PT22 tube, that made some problems getting light output, and a crazy gamma run. ( P43 phosphor for 3D )

Also after a short period the blue tube shorted, and i had to replace that with another blue LCP tube.

So the problems were mostly tube related.

Now it behaves like my other 9500LC, but after installing the MP VNB and VIM its just all wild and smoking.. Super sharp corner focus, fully resolve 1080P 72hz with a light output around 10-11 fl on a 2m wide gain 1.0 screen. Can be beaten to output around 16fl, but i hurt me to turn up the contrast that high.


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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:55 am    Post subject:

stridsvognen wrote:
Also after a short period the blue tube shorted, and i had to replace that with another blue LCP tube.


It's a shame for the blue tube, have you tried to remove the short with a tube regenerator, sometimes it's working...

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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:00 am    Post subject:

gjaky wrote:
stridsvognen wrote:
Also after a short period the blue tube shorted, and i had to replace that with another blue LCP tube.


It's a shame for the blue tube, have you tried to remove the short with a tube regenerator, sometimes it's working...


No, i dont have one, but its on my need to buy list, i also have a set of dead LCP tubes i can train on. no idea whats wrong with those.
Also i have a 8" CRT in my 8500AC machine who behaves like the blue 9" tube before it shorted, its like a flare inside the tube when its surposed to be black.. Not visible on screen, but clear to see looking true the lenses.
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:46 am    Post subject:

I don't have one either, but once had an oscilloscope tube that also was shorted between two grid, I could see a tiny wire piece (much thinner than a hair) that was stuck between the grids, and I managed to burn that out with a simple bench powersupply. If your short isn't between the filament and cathode you might be able to do this too, if the problem origin is similar, if not the regenerator won't help either.
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:01 am    Post subject:

No idea what kind of short my blue tube got, it looks like new, no dirt to see inside the tube, it just activated the spot kill.
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:11 am    Post subject:

With a siple multimeter you can find out where is the short, assuming you know the pinout of the tube. Normally you shouldn't measure resistance between K-G1-G2-H.
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:14 am    Post subject:

gjaky wrote:
With a siple multimeter you can find out where is the short, assuming you know the pinout of the tube. Normally you shouldn't measure resistance between K-G1-G2-H.


I was not able to measure anything out of the normal, compared to a new tube.
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:23 pm    Post subject:

A shorted tube would not cause Spotkill circuit to activate. The Spot kill is on the VNB and VIM. There are some measurement points on the vim to see if it being activated.

Athanasios

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