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hansphx · Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 9

There is something about direct view CRT that is special. Perhaps it has to do with having grown up watching them and the sense of wonderment and nostalgia that now comes with it. Or perhaps it is just a stunning TV!

I have owned the sony for 2 years.

Anyway I bought a bluray player for discs, netflix and pandora. I went to convert / adapt HDMI > DVI-D and all I got was black screen. I tested the player thru my plasma DVI-D and all worked well. Im assuming the DVI input is kaput. So I have to go thru Y Pb Pr.

I was thinking:
Bluray > HDMI > HDFury 1 > Y Pb Pr (if it allows it - or RGB similar, I think) and coax > analog LR for audio.

What resolution will I be seeing 1080i or 720p. I think the HDFury is pass through. Any ideas - better solutions?
I look forward to your responses. Thx Hans

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:36 am Post subject:

The DVI input on that TV doesn't probably doesn't have HDCP. ( HD Copy Protection nonsense ). What year is that TV? Most all TV's made before 2005 won't have it. I've seen some as late as 2007 flat screens that didn't have HDCP and that was on an HDMI port!

HDFury1 won't work. You'll need HDFury2 for the YPbPr/Component input or a Moome Mux-HD box if you want to try the DVI input.
Set your Bluray to 1080i and the HDFury2 to YUV ( on the side switch. ) make sure you get the power supply for the HDFury2.

hansphx · Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 9

Manufactured in 2003. OK - so no handshake.

Any benefit to going the HDMI > Moome > DVI route? Does it have an audio out?

Is the power supply included or an additional purchase?

Thanks Analog

hansphx · Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 9

Here's some info on HDCP:

"I know this thread started quite some time ago. An HDMI splitter may allow and might not allow capturing of the full signal. There are different versions of HDCP but here is what I've come to know about HDMI Vs Component: The manufactures at texas Instruments (TI) built the HDCP chips for Intel. I just so happen to have in my possession the data sheets for all the HDCP chips.

The input on the HDCP Tx chips tapped off the analog component ('Y' 'Pb' 'Pr' and the SPDIF. The HDCP transmitter chip does have a slight upconvert to it but not by much of any difference to analog HD component. So how the input feeds into the HDMI HDCP chips: Analog HD Component out is the input, SPDIF out is the input.

The Component and Coax/Optical (SPDIF) output on the back of a Digital TV box from the service provider can connect to a converter adapter that has the SPDIF (either coax or Optical) input and component input to HDMI with compliance to HDCP 1.2 thus allowing viewing and recording on HDMI input devices! Enjoy!"

from - http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/334145-HDCP-strippers/page8?s=66eda235d57c681b267098705599bca0

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:15 am Post subject:

benareeno · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 1614 Location: ottawa, canada

what the hell are you guys even talking about?

There is no point or use to using digital converters with this tv...just give it a high quality analog component connection.

ecrabb · Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:43 pm Post subject:

benareeno · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 1614 Location: ottawa, canada

I still don't get it...

get a blu-ray player with component, and a media player with component...at most, you could get a hdmi-dvi converter to use the digital input...but again, what's the point?

If someone thinks their blu-ray player is so special that they need a hdmi converter box...well, I guess that's up to them. Even though it's a total waste of money and would not buy you any appreciable difference in pic quality.

ecrabb · Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:30 pm Post subject:

Nobody is saying it would buy any picture quality, though I think that's debatable. The analog output quality on a lot of gear a few years ago (before the manufacturers dropped analog altogether) was pretty dismal.

Again, it's about giving the set a modern input so you can connect almost anything to it, whether newer game machine, media player, AVR, or whatever. Most new source don't HAVE an analog output, so you're relegated to stuff that's at least a year or two old, which means finding older used gear and making sacrifices on features in many cases.

Depending on what you want to use, it may not be a waste of money at all. For instance, if you want to use a new Apple TV for iTunes rentals, it's HDMI or nothin'. There are plenty of other examples, too.

SC

benareeno · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 1614 Location: ottawa, canada

I tried the hdmi input on my 34" fine pitch trinitron...and the picture is notably worse than a component connection. Word to the wise...if you have one of these tv's, don't even bother thinking you will in any way get a better picture from the dvi/hdmi input(s), you won't.

**AnalogRocks** · Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:04 am Post subject:

winny