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jeffslife
Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4190 Location: ohio usa
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:26 am Post subject: I need a reasonably priced 5 channel passive crossover |
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I have no idea if there is such a thing. I have a very nice one but its 12V for car audio. I could probably make it work if I had to. Any other ideas ? Thanks in advance
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ecrabb Forum Moderator
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 15909 Location: Utah
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:32 am Post subject: |
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If it's 12v, then it's probably not passive, Jeff... Unless it goes between amp and speaker.
There's almost certainly a pro-sound piece (or three) that will do what you want. Why don't you tell us what we're trying to accomplish so we can nail down the best hardware.
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Nashou66
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jeffslife
Joined: 17 Apr 2010 Posts: 4190 Location: ohio usa
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What I want to do is to regulate the sound to 2 pair of front speakers individually. The centers and subs also. The surrounds I can do through the integra. I just want a little more control like I am used to having in car audio.The increments just arent small enough.
EDIT, The crossover I have goes between the head unit and the amps.
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Nashou66
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CxTurbo
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 425 Location: Ontario, Canada
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You are looking for an active crossover I think Jeff. Passive is what is in your speakers after the amplifier. Active is before
Nash nailed it with the Mini DSP. Many pro options as well. Behringer Ultra-Drive Pro DCX2496 comes to mind. I think you would need to by-pass your speakers crossovers in either case if you wanted to go fully active 2-way or 3-way. The mini would be a better option I do believe though.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| jeffslife wrote: | | What I want to do is to regulate the sound to 2 pair of front speakers individually. The centers and subs also. |
2 pair of fronts? Centers plural?
Why so many speakers?
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jeffslife
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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I am running 2 centers because I am trying to use what I have already without buying new(cheapskate) and still get the sound I want at the volume levels I want.(extremely loud) I am using a polk rti a9 and a pinnacle gold series as centers. Separately they both are decent centers but together I get the best of both. The polk is very bright and gives up good mid level bass and the pinnacle excels with the vocal range. Together it is the perfect center in my room. The problem is I want to feed them only the range they reproduce accuratetly and I need more control to make it perfect. Also the polks starve for power they really dont shine until you throw about 250-300 watts to them,but when you do,WOW! you wouldnt believe its the same speaker. The pinnacle shines at about 120 watts,Using 2 I can play both at high and low volume levels and it still come across clear as a bell. Basically the same with the front, one set has a 15 and one set has a 12 I really like the 15s but for music the 12s "keep up" better. (for lack of the proper knowledge to use the correct terminology) such as a real fast drum solo,the 15s have to travel too much and it muddys the bass. if I only throw the lower end bass to the 15s they dont "try' to reproduce the higher bass and they dont struggle at high volume levels. The 12s pick up the slack and together they are exactly what I need in my room. I am hoping to buy some new speakers in a year or so but for now I just want what I have to sound the best it can. In my experience with car audio it isnt that hard to do. When I only had a very small room just for music I didnt have these challenges. The Adcom box Nash tipped me on is a godsend but I believe it could sound GREAT if I just had the control I am used to having. I built competition car stereos for years for many people. What I did was not the norm but it worked really well, I am trying to use what I know works in that area in my HT but it is MUCH harder.
P.S. My spell check box comes up black and doesnt work,is it offline ?
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jeffslife
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I decided to put an EQ on every channel but the subs, Problem solved. 4 amps,4 EQ's.
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| jeffslife wrote: | | I decided to put an EQ on every channel but the subs, Problem solved. 4 amps,4 EQ's. |
I bought a 5.2 channel EQ for just this use
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Nashou66
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| jeffslife wrote: | | I decided to put an EQ on every channel but the subs, Problem solved. 4 amps,4 EQ's. |
Jeff, the subs are the things that need the most help.
You need to read up on REW over at Home theater Shack. First you need to get an idea about what your room is doing
at each frequency. The lower frequencies from 10hz-200hz are the ones that most want to flatten out since they say your hearing is more sensitive to db fluctuation in that range(well not 10hz but you can sure feel it).
http://www.hometheatershack.com/roomeq/
Before you can do any equalization you need to know what your room is doing to the sound.
And physically moving the speakers and subs will change the nulls and peaks. and also it will show you
what running dual centers or LR's will do. You may think it sounds better but the results might not be
what you think.
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jeffslife
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Nash, I see what you mean but to be honest as cool as that program looks and probably works I doubt I am smart enough to grasp how to use it. I dont even know all the correct terminology less alone how to comprehend what it does or HOW to do it. My math skills arent what they used to be and my short term memory is short circuited most of the time. It looks like going back to learn trig again. I doubt I would be successful at this time in my life with the issues I have. I really appreciate the link though, I have an engineer buddy who would LOVE that software maybe he would help me out with it. I have an old stereo set up disc that I have been using for years that works reasonably well. (TDK's ultimate guide to great sound.) Unless I can get help I will probably just use that. My HT room is an acoustic nightmare and if I could comprehend it that software would be a godsend. Thank you, If I can get help we will give it a shot.
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