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mx83toy
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:21 am Post subject: Ultra NooB needs help Cine7 - screen shots added :) |
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Hi every one first id like to say, i stumbled across crt by fluke a few months ago and have been obsessed with it since.... after looking real hard i managed to get my hands on a Cine 7 in the box with manuals and 2500H on it... Crt's looked fine too....So to my problems  Be kind guys
First off im doing a basic just getting it going against the wall to see what crt fuss is about as i cant wait to new house to be built with new theater room setup
ok so as a tester i have just plugged my playstation3 (rgb conecter) to the cine and it recognized it as rgb3s good start i think
weird thing is that im only getting a strong green tube picture and hardly anything on the blue and red... menus and internal pattern come up fine for R G B though... (Mind you as a sneak peak im already loving what im seeing these crt things are smooth as!!!!) I played with the co lour settings but got nothing much also G2 was no help as it just put a red or blue tinge over the green pic...
now the more concerning thing is that when i look into the lens im getting a weird bright line across the bottom of the crt (all colors) and looks like its happening way below the proper raster area gives some lines at the top of the pic that i can get rid of using blanking but im scared of potentially damaging it as crt's are scarce here in Sydney Australia...
Last thing is that when i remove the cover then flip up the top board (ie to access the scan direction plugs ect) with the tubes facing away from me.... on the right hand side there are some cables that come through the chasis that looks like are meant to connect to a card but its missing??? seems to work with out it i think its for the optional doubler but im unsure at this stage i'll attach some pics
Ohh and last thing i noticed was (pic included too) on the blue and red tubes it looks like there is a earth that is zip tied to the (i think it called the neck...long silver part behind the tube) and green does not have one is this correct???
All help will be greatly appreciated!!!!! And promised to keep my fingers out of it till i et some responses!!!!
Was going to run everything through my harmon cardon amp and really only going to use the ps3 on it for movies (not a gamer) using scaler in the amp to 1080i (has fadjulia chip "i think that how its pronounced).....
CRT's Rock!!!!!!!!!
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mx83toy
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Ohh and tested the ps3 with same cable on my plasma and worked fine.....
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Ile
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PS3 doesn't output rgb, it's component video. That look green in rgb input.
You should try input 5 (press 5 from remote) or input 6 (tri-level sync) with component video.
I guess that those neck boards grounding cables should be connected to tubes bell grounding comb, like in other Barcos.
Connect those before using projector, those prevent static HV build up to tubes or something.
Check these out for starters...
http://www.curtpalme.com/Barco701_Layout1.shtm
http://www.curtpalme.com/Barco701_Downloads.shtm
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mx83toy
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Thankyou already a massive help!!! Looks like the doubler is missing ( don't mind I'm more into 576 and up plus my Harmon amp has some tricks for that)
The ps3 error was a real Noob fault oops but I'm learning I always had it using hdmi to my plasma , one thing is I had tried other input numbers on the remote last night and got nothing? Ill try again Hmm I'll look into that more.....
Any input on those lines kinda freaked out over them I'd hate to break this thing after trying to get one for so long!
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mx83toy
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Ohhhh Oops... The ps3 has a rgb option in the display settings should I maybe try that instead to get things going while I gear up?.. I'll need to read more. LoL believe me I've read and read and read on crts my head is going to explode but not giving up.... And thanks once again ....Im a bit of a guru on some car forums and I know what it's like answering these questions over and over.... Problem is I've read a lot of this stuff but doesn't sink in till I need to apply It and sometimes can't put the 2 together
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Curt Palme
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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Leave the component output connected, as the Cine 7 has a built in transcoder to convert the component input to RGB. You'll find that by selecting inputs 5 or 6 on the projector.
That missing board is indeed a scaler or line doubler, and will work with PAL or NTSC signals. I've actually got a spare if you want one. It does a decent job upscaling.
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mx83toy
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Ok so input 5/6 worked I played ans played panicked a bit as I pushed the raster to big by accident then took a few minutes to correct it.... Got the hang of the settings and convancing and cracked out some 1080i that I felt I could grab wow how smooth no where near what it can do by a long shot but wow!!!!! Curt pm about the board please with a price shipped to 2148 Pc Australia ohh need a plastic hinge piece that you warn break easy and to remove with the screws....... ( found that after I broke one  but still smiling so freakn excited btw it's 3 am here that's how keen I was to get it going!!!!! Thought the scaler might be wasted on my machine though as my Harmon kardon amp scales using fadjulia chipset so should I bothe with one?
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draganm
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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the line doubler turns 480i into 480P, (or 576i into 480P?) IT doesn't scale any other resolutions. Line doublers were popular back in the 1980's  , before progressive scan DVD came out
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Curt Palme
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know, but the scalers accept interlaced inputs (not sure if they accept 480p component as well), and upscale at various resolutions up to 1080p. That's what I have is the scaler verision
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mx83toy
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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ahh ok.... poping up some screen shots taken off my iphone be kind as its on a creamish wall quick setup learning at the same time ps3 direct the the cine7 not even close to being worthy of the screen shot thread....
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| mx83toy wrote: | | ahh ok.... poping up some screen shots taken off my iphone be kind as its on a creamish wall quick setup learning at the same time ps3 direct the the cine7 not even close to being worthy of the screen shot thread.... |
This is a far superior picture than my first rodeo with CRT Projectors! Not bad. If you stick with it, listen to the advice you are given, and dont electrocute yourself at the same time, you'll do fine 
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mx83toy
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Thankyou for the confidence boost I happend to pick it up the night before a 10 night trip to Fiji with my wife 1 year old girl and inlaws so I downloaded the manuals and studied em over and over and read as much as I could off the forums so when I got stuck into it things started making sense .... Can't wait to go play with it again! Btw I done the set up at 2am in 35degree Celsius heat with no glasses a wiked astigmatism and haven't adjusted the scheimpflug yet
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Curt Palme
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Maybe it's your camera, but it looks like your green focus is off.
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mx83toy
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doubt any of em are focused correctly its its all out of whack atm might do a more semi permanent setup this week and hopefully if i get it correct beem a movie out, i seriously have a new love in my life!!!! Camera used was iphone 4 used on the setting "press the take photo button" wondering if there are mods for the cine7 to push it further anyone know of any??? id love to to 1080P out of it!!!
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mx83toy
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im sure i read that the cine7 shoulb be able to handle it but something to do with pushing the bandwith to far???? thats for later though just dying to watch a movie on it
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Curt Palme
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It can do 1080p, but I have a feeling that 720p will look better. Try it and see. No mods to be done on these sets.
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mx83toy
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:09 am Post subject: |
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Just like everyone on this forum has typed at least once... thankyou i'll do some searching and reading on 720P vs 1080i and 1080P and see what other peoples thoughts are on it and as you suggested i'll give it a try also at the end of the day its what i like that matter's see i do pay attention!!!
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