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CRT Still The King from Eisemann-Theater
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ElTopo



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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject:

Looks like shading on the right side?

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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:50 pm    Post subject:

It's a pic from my iPhone, hand-held, in a dark room with a projection screen the only light. The iPhone has a relatively great camera (for phones), but one thing it doesn't do so well is white balance in certain situations, often putting a pink or green cast on something in the image. I have an app now that let's my lock the white balance and it works much better in situations like this.

Long story, short: It didn't look like that in person.

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Diddern



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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:54 pm    Post subject: Re: CRT Still The King from Eisemann-Theater

geisemann wrote:
Just a quick note to CRT users.

I had a customer in Holland who had a tired worn out 808s who purchased some of my New P16LXV tubes 8 inch tubes with the high rez P19lug gun we had made up special.

I gave him some new hardware to strip out the old Sony Tubes.

A new product for this year.

He completed the new mods, upgraded the required the neck cards to accept the extra grid, purchase the internal HDMI card.


Side by Side with SONY 4k projector ( $26,000 projector)

Result Barco won !


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I agree hehe lol

Here is the correct side by side test. Up til today des 2013, new pictures with pro camera soon. I wonder who tested the side by side test you referring to back when you posted this?
Photos posted by phone camera both taken close to screen ,,,,But one error ,,,,,,,also not the Sony 4K but a sony Hw50 for less cost than your mods and tubes.
And what or where did the barco won ?
I wonder where you here'd this crap? Embarassed

Also added a photo of the New Sony HW55 SXRD with fabric convergence out of the box.. Spot on... New from Sony I heard.



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ElTopo



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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:00 pm    Post subject:

Sorry but i think a comparison BG808 vs. actual digital does not make sense.

It should be a 9 inch machine.

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Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:11 pm    Post subject:

he is trolling.

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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:03 am    Post subject:

Lol- just when you thought this $@&! was over
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:24 am    Post subject:

ElTopo wrote:
Sorry but i think a comparison BG808 vs. actual digital does not make sense.

It should be a 9 inch machine.


CRT vs digital no point +1
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Diddern



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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:26 am    Post subject:

jbmeyer13 wrote:
Lol- just when you thought this $@&! was over


I have to keep it alive, because when people try to sell based on a lie I react.
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Diddern



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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:28 am    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
he is trolling.

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No , just place and show the fact.


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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:30 am    Post subject:

I asked mr G some questions, let him answer.

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Diddern



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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:32 am    Post subject:

ElTopo wrote:
Sorry but i think a comparison BG808 vs. actual digital does not make sense.

It should be a 9 inch machine.


Take a pic of your cine9 of this nec pattern. And post
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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:45 am    Post subject:

Diddern wrote:
ElTopo wrote:
Sorry but i think a comparison BG808 vs. actual digital does not make sense.

It should be a 9 inch machine.


Take a pic of your cine9 of this nec pattern. And post

Itll look alot better than that one you posted of an out of focus 808....

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Diddern



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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
Diddern wrote:
ElTopo wrote:
Sorry but i think a comparison BG808 vs. actual digital does not make sense.

It should be a 9 inch machine.


Take a pic of your cine9 of this nec pattern. And post

Itll look alot better than that one you posted of an out of focus 808....


I see huge improvements in sharpness on it. So the moods work.
But also the tubes does a lot. But comparable to a Sony HW50 NO NO NO. far from.
Looking forward to watch a movie on it soon. So I can see if I react to something or not.
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Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:50 pm    Post subject:

Its only an 8" machine. Its not in the league of a Cine 9 or 9500LC.

What lenses were on that 808?

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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:29 am    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
Its only an 8" machine. Its not in the league of a Cine 9 or 9500LC.

What lenses were on that 808?



So you think hehe
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:42 am    Post subject:

That doesnt answer the question. And it wont change the facts.
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:02 am    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
That doesnt answer the question. And it wont change the facts.


The best lenses for a 8" Colored HD lenses. The lenses on a 9" is better I know.
But still because of new simulator tubes 9" tubes rebuilt built for 8", , and mods. ( The 808 is not a 808 no more )
I know that a 9" is better, but because of all this mods and new tubes it eats a original 9"
But again I have not seen them side by side.
Just memory form a 9" Last time I was there a 9" was sharper as I remembered but still close. And the pic is taken by a phone camera so its better I hope. We see soon.
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:21 am    Post subject:

Dodged the question again. WHICH LENSES WERE INSTALLED???
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:33 pm    Post subject:

CasetheCorvetteman wrote:
Dodged the question again. WHICH LENSES WERE INSTALLED???


Im at work i think it is HD144
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Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:00 pm    Post subject:

Before I had the 919's I used to have a BG808s and a retro 808s. I converted it into a front projector with liquid coupling, the sharper P16 tubes, colored C-elements from a sony G70 and also the lenses from G70 HD18's
Now that's not a 808 anymore. Also I had graphics S model so with 120mhz amps.
After that I got for some months a 1208s Also liquid coupled with 8' P16 tubes but with 9" LC housings colored c elements and HD10 GT17 lenses, but still the sharpness that I have now you can't get with a 8" I think. Also the bandwidth is much better, less banding or ringing on left side.

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