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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:47 am Post subject: |
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I want you guys to tell me something. I have tested this and know the answer what I saw. Just want to hear what you think...
1. If you have brilliant sharpness and everything is adjusted correct do you get better 3d debt then compared with a less sharp one?
2. If you have much punch in picture and still can hold the black level at the same level as total shutdown(everything still adjusted correct), will this picture get more clear and true also feeling of better correct color?
3. If point 2 holds what happens to colors up to rec709 d65 from 0-100 ire
4. If pixels or scan lines are visible near screen then max up to 3-4 feet do you get less (CRT word )movie feeling?
5. How important is ansicontrast ? How is on off contrast important? Or is combined the best way to get the perfect picture?
6. If the dynamics is better in projector A ,and all points from 1-5 holds. Witch picture will look closest to the source. Then with the same player.?
Just some questions I like to see what some say.
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | The 909 is better, his shot is better than yours, HQF900s are better than HD-145s, NEC is better than Barco, LC is better than AC, Coke is better than Pepsi, Mercedes is better than BMW, James Bond is tougher than John McClane, Rothmans are better than Marlboro, Glenfidich is better than Jack Daniels, and anything else i may have forgotten.
Im really amazed you brought up "punch"... Thats desperate isnt it  |
The punch is how the camera understand the light from the screen, this can look totally different in real.
And all the other you wrote excuses. Again.....
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | The 909 is better, his shot is better than yours, HQF900s are better than HD-145s, NEC is better than Barco, LC is better than AC, Coke is better than Pepsi, Mercedes is better than BMW, James Bond is tougher than John McClane, Rothmans are better than Marlboro, Glenfidich is better than Jack Daniels, and anything else i may have forgotten.
Im really amazed you brought up "punch"... Thats desperate isnt it |
And no not desperate we talk about CRT.
You clearly see form the picture that white in black is poor form the 909 pic compared to the pic form the 808.
And clearly can see that the 909 is sharper as this picture is. And also that pic of the 808 is not hold still.
You are like talking to my son. When I try to take his candy Hehe
But again so you not misunderstand. The thing we compare from is a picture not the real thing
I am socked that you can even write this you do. What are you afraid off?
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Francisco.
Try play with different peaking settings on your 909, and see what happens, you might be able to find one that will make it look like Cases 909 when you run RGBHV from Crystalio.
If you dont have one, you should try the 25$ HDCP stripper, and you see the Crystalio RGBHV out for blu ray
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | Francisco.
Try play with different peaking settings on your 909, and see what happens, you might be able to find one that will make it look like Cases 909 when you run RGBHV from Crystalio.
If you dont have one, you should try the 25$ HDCP stripper, and you see the Crystalio RGBHV out for blu ray |
Nice to have you there you ignore things when you do not like the answers 
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Francisco.
Try play with different peaking settings on your 909, and see what happens, you might be able to find one that will make it look like Cases 909 when you run RGBHV from Crystalio.
If you dont have one, you should try the 25$ HDCP stripper, and you see the Crystalio RGBHV out for blu ray |
Nice to have you there you ignore things when you do not like the answers |
Diddern.. Do you want to pick up where we left in the other thread..?
I think the most you get out of this is just to display your ignorance once more.
Im not going to let you f*ck up another thread.. But you can go back to the last one who is a mess already, and we can take it from there.
For this thread.!
You are quite good manipulating screenshots..! What software are you using.?
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Francisco.
Try play with different peaking settings on your 909, and see what happens, you might be able to find one that will make it look like Cases 909 when you run RGBHV from Crystalio.
If you dont have one, you should try the 25$ HDCP stripper, and you see the Crystalio RGBHV out for blu ray |
Nice to have you there you ignore things when you do not like the answers |
Diddern.. Do you want to pick up where we left in the other thread..?
I think the most you get out of this is just to display your ignorance once more.
Im not going to let you f*ck up another thread.. But you can go back to the last one who is a mess already, and we can take it from there.
For this thread.!
You are quite good manipulating screenshots..! What software are you using.? |
Look who's talking I wonder who f*ck*** it up, and you started everything, no doubt but do what you used to ignore hehe.
But again like more than me said you ignore stuff and can not admit the truth. Hehe
But keep on ignoring it shows again.
And now we talk CRT hehe
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Francisco.
Try play with different peaking settings on your 909, and see what happens, you might be able to find one that will make it look like Cases 909 when you run RGBHV from Crystalio.
If you dont have one, you should try the 25$ HDCP stripper, and you see the Crystalio RGBHV out for blu ray |
Nice to have you there you ignore things when you do not like the answers |
Diddern.. Do you want to pick up where we left in the other thread..?
I think the most you get out of this is just to display your ignorance once more.
Im not going to let you f*ck up another thread.. But you can go back to the last one who is a mess already, and we can take it from there.
For this thread.!
You are quite good manipulating screenshots..! What software are you using.? |
Look who's talking I wonder who f*ck*** it up, and you started everything, no doubt but do what you used to ignore hehe.
But again like more than me said you ignore stuff and can not admit the truth. Hehe
But keep on ignoring it shows again.
And now we talk CRT hehe |
Go to the other thread and pick up there.. lets continue where we left.
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Francisco.
Try play with different peaking settings on your 909, and see what happens, you might be able to find one that will make it look like Cases 909 when you run RGBHV from Crystalio.
If you dont have one, you should try the 25$ HDCP stripper, and you see the Crystalio RGBHV out for blu ray |
Nice to have you there you ignore things when you do not like the answers |
Diddern.. Do you want to pick up where we left in the other thread..?
I think the most you get out of this is just to display your ignorance once more.
Im not going to let you f*ck up another thread.. But you can go back to the last one who is a mess already, and we can take it from there.
For this thread.!
You are quite good manipulating screenshots..! What software are you using.? |
Just copied and put everyone on the same sheet to more easily see and compare your point?
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Sorry forgot I used PowerPoint.
If copy past is manipulating sorry will not do again. Hehe
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| Diddern wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | The 909 is better, his shot is better than yours, HQF900s are better than HD-145s, NEC is better than Barco, LC is better than AC, Coke is better than Pepsi, Mercedes is better than BMW, James Bond is tougher than John McClane, Rothmans are better than Marlboro, Glenfidich is better than Jack Daniels, and anything else i may have forgotten.
Im really amazed you brought up "punch"... Thats desperate isnt it |
And all the other you wrote excuses. Again..... |
None of those are excuses, they are ALL true.
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:42 am Post subject: |
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I'm sorry stridsvognen I started sh*t talk now against you.
I won't be rude you did not do anything wrong when you came on.
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Diddern wrote: | | CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | The 909 is better, his shot is better than yours, HQF900s are better than HD-145s, NEC is better than Barco, LC is better than AC, Coke is better than Pepsi, Mercedes is better than BMW, James Bond is tougher than John McClane, Rothmans are better than Marlboro, Glenfidich is better than Jack Daniels, and anything else i may have forgotten.
Im really amazed you brought up "punch"... Thats desperate isnt it |
And all the other you wrote excuses. Again..... |
None of those are excuses, they are ALL true. |
What if I like Pepsi? hehe.
But be true here, you understand that a picture is just an indication. And that the pic of the 808 and the 909 have some + and - on both. But in real I put my cards 100% on the 909. And about lenses you are right.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Not just about the lenses, all of it.
Mine isnt a 909 though, its a CineMAX. For movies, its even better than the 909, unless he put coloured C-elements in his 909.
As for the "punch", its very obvious you took the brightest part of your pic, which was clearly taken at a different angle, and is notably less sharp and more "AC like" than his. Anyone here that has seen both AC and LC on the same screen will know straight away how big the difference is.
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | Not just about the lenses, all of it.
Mine isnt a 909 though, its a CineMAX. For movies, its even better than the 909, unless he put coloured C-elements in his 909.
As for the "punch", its very obvious you took the brightest part of your pic, which was clearly taken at a different angle, and is notably less sharp and more "AC like" than his. Anyone here that has seen both AC and LC on the same screen will know straight away how big the difference is. |
True but have you seen a fully modded 808?
And I think its closer than you think..
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Nope. But i have a RUNCO DTV991, its better than an 808.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Now why dont these pictures look the same.?
Who have messed up that picture. ? It is the same picture right.?
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Diddern
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Nope. But i have a RUNCO DTV991, its better than an 808. |
Forget original 808 that cant compare at all.
Its FAAR form that. I can guaranty that. I HAVE FRIENDS WITH 909 REALITY and they say its very close to this also in sharpness and we talk about a 808. They have seen it before me.
Its like this hehe The 909 is better, his shot is better than yours, HQF900s are better than HD-145s, NEC is better than Barco, LC is better than AC, Coke is better than Pepsi, Mercedes is better than BMW, James Bond is tougher than John McClane, Rothmans are better than Marlboro, Glenfidich is better than Jack Daniels, and anything else i may have forgotten.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Diddern wrote: | I'm sorry stridsvognen I started sh*t talk now against you.
I won't be rude you did not do anything wrong when you came on. |
Next time you feel the need, just post it in the other thread, then we can have a good go at each other..
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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I like the shots Francisco made, its very nice screenshots with no sharpness addet, or other distortions, And i will take that 909 over the 808 from those shots, i would start douing something about those visible scanlines. It will to me be a dealbreaker.. It will make it look more artificial than needet.
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