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Motobias
Joined: 08 Jul 2008
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Location: Osnabrueck, Germany
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject: I'll go 9" soon... Marquee 9500ultra |
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Scored a pretty well kept 9500ultra on ebay few hours ago.
it ended at only little over 300€
VIM HD input card
VIM, VDM, astig, focus, crt-boards Mike Parker modded
green and red c-element
r/g/b 9/8/9
i know that sometimes there are more amazing deals to find,
but do you guys think this is worth a proper "you suck!" ?
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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YOU SUCK BIG TIME...
The only decent thing to do now would be to let me have it..
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Motobias
Joined: 08 Jul 2008
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Location: Osnabrueck, Germany
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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you already have one
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barclay66
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
Posts: 1304
Location: Germany
TV/Projector: Marquee 9500 Ultra
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Hi,
Last year I bought a lot of stuff (boards, tubes etc.) from him and picked it up at his home. There I saw this PJ in action and the picture quality was excellent. At that time he asked about 1200€ for it. So:
YOU SUCK!!! 
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barclay66
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Motobias
Joined: 08 Jul 2008
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Location: Osnabrueck, Germany
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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thank you - makes me feel even better about this deal !
this is my very first 9" and marquee ever...so i am very curious and may need some advice.
my crt career so far:
sony vph1272, worked fine, sold after a week and got out triple the money i've spent
barco graphics 808, bought expensive with pretty bad green, died few days later... maybe not worth fixing
nec xg135, bought really cheap, green not that good but will still last some time, stored
barco graphics 808, bought supercheap as dead, tubes are exellent and up and working with weird controller problem
retrographics 801s, bought more or less for fun and parts - what a lemon !
so i hope i will get many happy hours out of the marquee and maybe get rid of all the rest and all the parts i have accumulated.
still trying to promise to myself, that this finally is the last crt i have bought...but they are so addictive !
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barclay66
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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Location: Germany
TV/Projector: Marquee 9500 Ultra
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Just one thing:
I saw his PJ up for auction several times. First he tried with starting bids which were too high. Later he tried with lower bids and ended up with starting at 1€ (like this time). After the auction ended (I think it was at 700-800€ but I might be wrong) he obviously didn't sell it anyway. I just hope You'll get it for Your final bid...
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barclay66
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Motobias
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yeah...i guess this time he was pushing it from a different account with 0 feedback, but other bidders also kicked in at around 300€...
i am alright with that, i just report people to ebay who are constantly pushing even when there are no other bidders involved !
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draganm
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| Motobias wrote: | yeah...i guess this time he was pushing it from a different account with 0 feedback, but other bidders also kicked in at around 300€...
i am alright with that, i just report people to ebay who are constantly pushing even when there are no other bidders involved
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i think what Barclay is saying is the seller might not honor the auction, happens all the time.
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Phoenixed
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Specially if he hops on here and sees these shenanigans.
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CIR Engineering
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That's a good score  It looks like the projector was well setup based on the phosphor pattern. Seems that the tubes will be totally usable if the projector was not plugged in for too many hours...
craigr
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Nashou66
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:57 am Post subject: |
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| CIR Engineering wrote: | That's a good score It looks like the projector was well setup based on the phosphor pattern. Seems that the tubes will be totally usable if the projector was not plugged in for too many hours...
craigr |
I keep hearing this argument. Does leaving a PJ plugged in really hurt the emissions of tubes?
Nashou
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barclay66
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| Nashou66 wrote: | | I keep hearing this argument. Does leaving a PJ plugged in really hurt the emissions of tubes? |
Hi,
I think that this depends on the PJ model. If the power supply will always feed power to the filaments (maybe at a reduced voltage during standby/shutoff) it surely will cause wear on the cathode of each tube. Worn cathodes will result in less contrast, poor focus and earlier blooming.
Keeping the filaments under power was often used as a method to allow for short startup sequences.
This article explains it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_cathode
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barclay66
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Nashou66
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gjaky
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Keeping the filaments under power was often used as a method to allow for short startup sequences.
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The funny thing is when I had my Marquee 7500 I measured the startup time from switching on to throwing a picture and found that the Marquee isn't quickier than the NEC. This preheating stuff was the only thing what I really hated in the Marquee.
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macgyver655
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| Nashou66 wrote: | Yeah the Marquees give it about 3 volts. I leave mine on all the time. I need to re think that then.
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You can't be serious you don't remember that entire, long thread we had on this a while back. Must be old age setting in, LOL. 
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Nashou66
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| macgyver655 wrote: | | Nashou66 wrote: | Yeah the Marquees give it about 3 volts. I leave mine on all the time. I need to re think that then.
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You can't be serious you don't remember that entire, long thread we had on this a while back. Must be old age setting in, LOL. |
Yeah musty be
Aiyy yia yia...
Well one good thing, when doing my Calibrations the past week i had to lower Drive a lot for Blue and G2's are in 50-60 range
for all tubes. I'll make sure I unplug them from now on. I need to use the extra Wall switch for that.
Nashou!!!!
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Curt Palme
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3.89 volts in standby. I always check new Marquees in the door before even powering up. If it's over 3.9 volts, it almost always means the trimpot is bad.
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Motobias
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so that would be the first thing to check !
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draganm
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| barclay66 wrote: | | Nashou66 wrote: | | I keep hearing this argument. Does leaving a PJ plugged in really hurt the emissions of tubes? |
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I think that this depends on the PJ model. If the power supply will always feed power to the filaments (maybe at a reduced voltage during standby/shutoff) it surely will cause wear on the cathode of each tube.
barclay66 |
the marquee sends ZERO volts to the filament both plugged in and fully powered up The marquee uses a seperate filament heater,which at 3.9 volts does not produce enough heat to cause the filament to to shed electrons.
Of coiurse at 6.5 volts it's shedding too many, it's a delicate circuit
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macgyver655
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well that post is surely not even worth responding to.
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