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Motobias



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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:51 pm    Post subject:

i think you are mixing something up with calculations for resistor networks !

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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:11 pm    Post subject:

I dont think so. I know to increase voltage for Capacitors they have to go in series. And if in series then the capacitance gets reduced.

Chris used 5 120uf 100volt Wet tants in series to get 24uf and 600 Volts.

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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:27 pm    Post subject:

you can put them in series and it will increase the total max voltage, but the total capacity equals the capacity of a single one !
but putting capacitors in series is never a good thing...unless you have very specific (weird) needs.

and how did chris use 5 100v caps to get 600v rating ?

maybe the capacity gets reduced, because of the negative sideeffects of putting them in series (esr?!)
switching to tanatlums is mainly done to maintain a low esr, low leakage and long lifetime, so putting them in series... pointless in my eyes !

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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:48 pm    Post subject:

Motobias wrote:
you can put them in series and it will increase the total max voltage, but the total capacity equals the capacity of a single one !
but putting capacitors in series is never a good thing...unless you have very specific (weird) needs.

and how did chris use 5 100v caps to get 600v rating ?

maybe the capacity gets reduced, because of the negative sideeffects of putting them in series (esr?!)
switching to tanatlums is mainly done to maintain a low esr, low leakage and long lifetime, so putting them in series... pointless in my eyes !


Opps I meant 120VOLTS, 120UF.

Here is some formulas for capacitance

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/capacitors-parallel-series-d_1388.html

in parallel

C = (10 μF) + (20 μF)

= 30 (μF)

in series

1/C = 1/(10 μF) + 1/(20 μF)

= 0.15 (1/μF)

or

C = 1 / 0.15 (1/μF)

= 6.7 (μF)

So capacitance gets reduced in series according to this.

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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:52 pm    Post subject:

Correct. 2 of the same value caps in parallel stay at the same voltage rating, but double in capacitance. 2 of the same caps in series halve in value, but double in voltage.

It's not really a good practice to series capacitors. Nothing wrong with paralleling them.
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:58 pm    Post subject:

Man, you guys are all over the place....... Laughing
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:24 am    Post subject:

I read some where that if you do need to use caps in series that you have to make a safe resistor network or something like that with the caps. I can't find that info. Mac do you know what I'm talking about ? lol Very Happy

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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:47 am    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
I read some where that if you do need to use caps in series that you have to make a safe resistor network or something like that with the caps.


Hi,

I think this article refers to what You were thinking of: http://www.coilgun.info/theorycapacitors/capacitors2.htm
Scroll down to the section: Resistor Network for Series Capacitors


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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:10 am    Post subject:

Thumbs Up
now we are all a bit smarter Very Happy

back to topic...
do the glycol chambers need to be full to the maximum with only a tiny air bubble or can i leave a bit more air,
just in case that the glycol wants to absorb a bit more water...
i am alright with bleeding the tubes every second year Wink
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:52 pm    Post subject:

#21

http://www.curtpalme.com/Changing_C_Elements7.shtm

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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject:

Hey.. we are waiting for some amazing screen shots now.. Wink How long can it take to get a 9500LC performing its best.. Razz
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:11 pm    Post subject:

i took some, just dektop and closeup Wink
it was all just a test setup and when doing screenshots, i wanna do it properly !

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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:51 pm    Post subject:

i was looking up crt projector videos on youtube and stumbled across this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Eu4RHnle8

what do you guys think ?

is it worth a try, improving signals and signal paths with ferrite cores...?
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:15 am    Post subject:

Motobias wrote:
i was looking up crt projector videos on youtube and stumbled across this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Eu4RHnle8

what do you guys think ?

is it worth a try, improving signals and signal paths with ferrite cores...?


That's my Video. Youd have to check the noise with a scope first. In My case it worked greatly.
All the board mods done to your Stig amp board might have got the noise the hard expensive way. Wink

Athanasios

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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:22 am    Post subject:

Nashou66 wrote:
Motobias wrote:
i was looking up crt projector videos on youtube and stumbled across this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Eu4RHnle8

what do you guys think ?

is it worth a try, improving signals and signal paths with ferrite cores...?


That's my Video. Youd have to check the noise with a scope first. In My case it worked greatly.
All the board mods done to your Stig amp board might have got the noise the hard expensive way. Wink

Athanasios


You have a funny accent Very Happy

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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:29 am    Post subject:

Very Happy ok i'll get the scope out !
what else can i probe for noise ?

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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:04 pm    Post subject:

Motobias wrote:
Very Happy ok i'll get the scope out !
what else can i probe for noise ?


You can put the probe on the top leg of the big large resistor on the VNB to see the video signal. Put up a stair step pattern
from a Blu ray or the internals and you'll see the stair step. Its a good way to check how well you set up greyscale as well.

Athanasios

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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:17 pm    Post subject:

i don't have a br player...nor a test br !
do i get about the same with the internal test pattern ?

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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:48 pm    Post subject:

You could try the avs calibration disc.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject:

Motobias wrote:
i don't have a br player...nor a test br !
do i get about the same with the internal test pattern ?


Not really as the Internal patters go through mostly a different
video path.

But for doing the greyscale with internal stair step pattern then yes. But not for finding noise.

After you scope the pattern you'll know why its called the stair step pattern Wink

Athanasios

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