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Barco ACTAS - Auto CRT calibation tool

 
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virusc



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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:11 pm    Post subject: Barco ACTAS - Auto CRT calibation tool

Has anyone used this? I bought the one on ebay today. It supposedly is new in the case. Barco literature says it is supposed to work on all 7",8",9" projectors with RS232 which is essentially all of their modern CRT projectors from bd500 - cin9 . I remember looking at one 10 years ago. I think they were either $20k or $100k for the ACTAS triple head unit. Other than color temperature, is this one of those rare devices that Barco would recommend to reset gamma curve which they say never to adjust from the factory like on the 1209 series?

I am really surprised no one from this forum bought this. Did I just buy another worthless piece of test equipment that I will never use and just will go in the large pile of ultra expensive but useless junk?



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I think I might know the issue now why no one bought it now. I think this one is for the 12" projectors as the sensor looks really large. If this is true is it still usable? Model number listed is ACTAS 12. 12 being 12"?



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barclay66



Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject:

Hi,

I don't know if the model number is related to the tube size. As it is intended to be applied like a lens cover, the tube size might not be too important. Instead, the age of the sensor and related effects could be bothering. I've read several times that aged sensors suffer form degradated signal level and/or lost linearity. I had seen the ad and initially felt tempted, but I didn't buy it because of its age and excessive shipment cost. Furthermore the sensor on the picture seems to be usable for the red tube only (see the sticker attached to it)...

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HaydnG90



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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:42 pm    Post subject:

Don't think the '12' refers to 12" tubes. since the manual also lists ACTAS/2 on the front cover. The conical shape of the sensor body suggests it was designed to accommodate lenses of differing diameters.

At least you have plenty of time to evaluate and return it for a refund if things don't work out.
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Decibel



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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Barco ACTAS - Auto CRT calibation tool

virusc wrote:
Has anyone used this? I bought the one on ebay today. It supposedly is new in the case.


Have you the software?

If not I have it.

(press key "m" to show menu)



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virusc



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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:49 pm    Post subject:

thanks Decibel. could you email it to me please at nate1981@comcast.net?


The auction says it comes with 3 sensors I think. I think they are stacked on each other and he only took the pic for the red one. (at least I hope this is the case.)


This is from 2000 I think so not that old but I get the idea. We will see. I have a sencore one I bought off of someone on curts site so I guess I can compare somewhat.




I really think this is made for the 12" crt series. I don't know if this matters other than not having the bar so I would have maybe rig something up. If you look at the size of the control box in relation to the sensor it is much larger than even a 9" HD-9 lense. The unit does say ACTAS 12. I could be wrong of course. Still I am surprised no one bought it.

I am guessing you guys rather use a single head sensor anyway as the screen has a effect on final temp anyway along with brightness making this device only really good for initial crt tracking and a 2nd single sensor will have to be done regardless after the ACTAS unit.


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Decibel



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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:00 pm    Post subject:

Ok when I get home I will send you the little file
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Hulio



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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:55 pm    Post subject:

Model 12 was made to work on 120V (US) and model 23 on 230V (Europe).
After calibration, it can make a huge difference in picture improvement. D65 in the menu is not close to reality anymore because of the phosphorus decoloration during the time.



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virusc



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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:18 pm    Post subject:

Thank you Hulio for the information. I did see this PDF before but I do not have any info on the ACTAS 12 only the 2 as others have stated. You can see in the picture that the sensor's are not the same as what is shown in the PDF. Any idea why this is? Any further info would be great and also, have you used this before? I see you are from Belgium. Have you or do you work for Barco? The Sensor Cup looks very large does it not and not the same as in the documentation.

Any further info is much appreciated. If this works out I have no problem lending it out to anyone in the area if they want.
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km987654



Joined: 25 Jul 2007
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Location: Australia

TV/Projector: Barco BG809s

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: Barco ACTAS - Auto CRT calibation tool

virusc wrote:
Has anyone used this? I bought the one on ebay today. It supposedly is new in the case. Barco literature says it is supposed to work on all 7",8",9" projectors with RS232 which is essentially all of their modern CRT projectors from bd500 - cin9 . I remember looking at one 10 years ago. I think they were either $20k or $100k for the ACTAS triple head unit. Other than color temperature, is this one of those rare devices that Barco would recommend to reset gamma curve which they say never to adjust from the factory like on the 1209 series?

I am really surprised no one from this forum bought this. Did I just buy another worthless piece of test equipment that I will never use and just will go in the large pile of ultra expensive but useless junk?



:edit:
I think I might know the issue now why no one bought it now. I think this one is for the 12" projectors as the sensor looks really large. If this is true is it still usable? Model number listed is ACTAS 12. 12 being 12"?


I was interested in that but shipping killed it.
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virusc



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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject:

how much was shipping? I know Australia is expensive but for a briefcase package?

Decibel sent me the software. Thanks again. How did you like using it?


Any further comments or info greatly appreciated. When I receive it I will try and test and put comments on the forum just in case it comes up again cheap for someone else as their is so little info on it. Should I scan the manual and upload and give it to curt to put on the site? (no one has this right? seems like the right thing to do since I have used the other manuals myself many times)
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Decibel



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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject:

virusc wrote:
Decibel sent me the software. Thanks again. How did you like using it?


Absolutely unused because I never had ACTAS interface.
I found that file in my Barco's documents.

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Hulio



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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:28 pm    Post subject:

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Virusc wrote:
I see you are from Belgium. Have you or do you work for Barco?

No, i don't but thanks for the compliment.
I just remember seeing a while back in a document that 12 was related to 120 volt.
You are right, the one you have ( or almost have ) is different than that from Barco PDF doc.
and is for one size of lens only. I never saw that. I suppose, after calibrating one colour
it has to be removed and fixed to the next colour. Sensor type 4 must be newer ( beter ) than
early versions.
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km987654



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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject:

virusc wrote:
how much was shipping? I know Australia is expensive but for a briefcase package?

Decibel sent me the software. Thanks again. How did you like using it?


Any further comments or info greatly appreciated. When I receive it I will try and test and put comments on the forum just in case it comes up again cheap for someone else as their is so little info on it. Should I scan the manual and upload and give it to curt to put on the site? (no one has this right? seems like the right thing to do since I have used the other manuals myself many times)


Shipping was $196usd.
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virusc



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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:37 pm    Post subject:

$200 for shipping? No wonder why you didn't get it

Is this the real cost or what the seller was trying to charge? I remember shipping entire pallets to Australia for around $600-800 t 6-7 years ago. This thing is only 20-30 pound max so that should really high unless things have changed.
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km987654



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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:18 pm    Post subject:

virusc wrote:
$200 for shipping? No wonder why you didn't get it

Is this the real cost or what the seller was trying to charge? I remember shipping entire pallets to Australia for around $600-800 t 6-7 years ago. This thing is only 20-30 pound max so that should really high unless things have changed.



I think a lot of eBay sellers make money off postage and/or handling charges at the same time I also believe that postage and freight companies are cashing in on online purchasing. Its a real problem.
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macgyver655



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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:47 pm    Post subject:

It's the price of fuel. Everything shipped is subject to fuel costs. So as fuel costs go up, so does everything else....
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virusc



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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:30 pm    Post subject:

It came today. The jerk did not box it. They shipped the case as is. It arrived safe thankfully. The unit is new. All of the cables were sealed so I assume it was never used. the sensors were stacked together so all three are there. The manual stats that the ACTAS 12 uses the lense cups verses the bar type for ACTAS 2. It still looks like for the 12" to me. Worst case I use 3 lense covers to modify the originals.

The manual I will try and scan as I am not aware of any site that has it available.
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km987654



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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject:

virusc wrote:
It came today. The jerk did not box it. They shipped the case as is. It arrived safe thankfully. The unit is new. All of the cables were sealed so I assume it was never used. the sensors were stacked together so all three are there. The manual stats that the ACTAS 12 uses the lense cups verses the bar type for ACTAS 2. It still looks like for the 12" to me. Worst case I use 3 lense covers to modify the originals.

The manual I will try and scan as I am not aware of any site that has it available.


Did you manage to get this working??
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virusc



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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:07 pm    Post subject:

I temp moved due to work out of state so it has to wait until I get back.
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