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fefrank
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:19 pm Post subject: Is it possible to... |
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Make a Barco 1208s/2 to look as good as a 1209 non s? Or just even close to it?
I want to hear your thoughts of this and also you thoughts on a 8500 Marquee Vs. Barco 1208s series.
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Ile
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: Is it possible to... |
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| fefrank wrote: | | Make a Barco 1208s/2 to look as good as a 1209 non s? Or just even close to it? |
Pretty close, but 1209 will be bit sharper, brighter and have less halo (-> better contrast) because of LC optics.
Primary colors are bit off in both as stock units.
| fefrank wrote: | | I want to hear your thoughts of this and also you thoughts on a 8500 Marquee Vs. Barco 1208s series. |
These are very close, unless Marquee is LC version.
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digitalayon
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Haloing will not be an issue since he's going to HD-145's.
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gjaky
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My HD-145 is haloing, not as much as my HD-6 but still annoying.
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Phoenixed
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I also have haloing on my marquee with 145s.
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ecrabb
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The difference in contrast (both perceived and real ANSI) between AC and LC is huge. Huge.
I couldn't believe the difference in "pop" the image had going from a Sony 12xx AC with sh*tty HD-8's to a G70. Besides the jump in sharpness, the contrast was responsible for the really big jump in image quality. Simply no comparison between the two.
In that way, no AC machine - no matter how good/big it is will ever look like a modern LC machine.
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Phoenixed
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Couldn't be anymore right.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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| digitalayon wrote: | | Haloing will not be an issue since he's going to HD-145's. |
Where do you get that idea??
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digitalayon
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I have seen a setup with 145's...did not see any haloing.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Did you look with your eyes open? There isnt much difference ( if any ) between the HD145s and other AC lenses with respect to the halo, as ultimately sharp as they are, they dont stop the halo.
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fefrank
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So basically what you are saying is that an 8'' set could look as good as a 9'' set with the proper mods and making it LC. How come LC makes such a ''big'' difference in PQ other than contrast? I thought most of the PQ improvements (Sharper image, better resolving capabilities etc.) from an 8'' to a 9'' was the larger tubes. Not even mentioning the horrible HD-8 Lenses, I mean those are just horrible. I though personally that my Runco 947 looked better in 720p with hd-145 lenses than my 1208s2 at 1080p with the HD-8's. So Lenses make a big difference as-well for what I've seen( I am a newbie anyways). I could only imagine how good the Barco will look when I am done putting those on.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Cause LC stops reflections.
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fefrank
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Okay so my next question is. Can I Make my 1208s2 LC. Maybe with LC tanks from a 1209. is the same chassis right?
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gjaky
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Yes, also there are barco retrographics LC tanks with 8" high resolution tubes, with or without scheimpflug adjustments.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Cant use 9inch chambers on 8inch tubes.
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digitalayon
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Feeling like there may be some misinformation here.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Where? Dont stop with the fore play, share this with us all so if there is a discrepency no one makes any losses.
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gjaky
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| CasetheCorvetteman wrote: | | Cant use 9inch chambers on 8inch tubes. |
I thought it's apparent that 9" chambers needs 9" tubes, an 1208 can be upgraded to 1209, I think.
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CasetheCorvetteman
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Yeah i figured youd have known that 
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