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NEC XG110LC error code EF

 
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JuzWerkz



Joined: 14 Dec 2007
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Location: Battle Creek, MI USA

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:37 am    Post subject: NEC XG110LC error code EF

I have an XG110LC with the moome HDMI card in it, which has worked fairly well for the last couple years. I've posted before about my red tube randomly flickering convergence, but it has tended to go away as the box warms up, so I just turn the set on early & don't worry about it.

Monday night I was watching the set just fine and it was operating as it has for the last year or so.

Tuesday morning I woke up late because we'd had a power outage and my alarm didn't go off. I did not go near the set Tuesday night. This evening I tried to turn it on, and it would not respond. The input source LED is lit and the window is flashing 00 and EF alternating. The error code sheet Curt has posted says EEROM read error (SYSTEM PWB error). Anyone know what that means, and more imporantly, what I can do to fix it? I'm assuming this had something to do with the power outage, though the box is double surge protected...

I get company maybe once or twice a year. Every time I have a projector issue, it's just before company is coming. I've got to get this fixed in a hurry!!

Edit - Okay so I finally found the service manual and saw this is a memory reset issue. I followed the procedures there and the EEPROM reset. Which means I have to do a complete setup on the projector. Not a ton of fun, but it's okay, because I don't have to wait for parts. Unfortunately, when I did the reset, the image is upside down, and says Warning! Incorrect H Plug Polarity! I haven't been able to find that anywhere in the manual just yet...

thanks,

cj


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MikeEby



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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:45 am    Post subject:

About a month ago I had a similar thing on my 1351; it was the 1st time it acted up in 11 years. I reseated all the boards in the card cage and all well. I then noticed some unstable convergence after doing this. I cleaned the jumper that changes the projector from desktop mount to sealing mount. So far so good.

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Curt Palme
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:28 am    Post subject:

you need to go into the menu area where you flip the V position, and select the correct entry. You're fine.
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JuzWerkz



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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:42 am    Post subject:

Thanks Mike. I found the setting to fix the H Polarity, and now I'm at the basic start of the setup process, which I never got perfect before and haven't done from scratch in ages. I'll take that connector off and hit it with some contact cleaner to see if it helps the stability issues, and do a fresh setup, probably early next week.

thanks again,

cj
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CasetheCorvetteman



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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:27 am    Post subject:

Take all 3 off and clean them all, that is why youre getting the red shake. My XG did this a few weeks ago.
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JuzWerkz



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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:15 am    Post subject:

Okay so I'm trying to go through the setup process carefully, step-by-step, but I've discovered a problem for which I cannot find a solution in all the setup instructions I have:

Now that I've refreshed the EEPROM, the VERTICAL convergence error between the three tubes is MUCH greater than I have adjustment for. The R & B tubes are about 100% of the range out of adjustment with each other, and they are both about 600% away from the Green one, which seems much higher than it was with the pre-error setup. I've adjusted mechanical toe-in so that the horizontal is pretty close, but I'm not aware of a way that I can move the tubes vertically relative to each other, which is what looks like needs to happen...


Anybody know how to fix this?

thanks,

cj
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:19 am    Post subject:

Yes, the coarse adjustment is in the hidden service menu. PM me and I'll tell you how to get into it. DO NOT post it here once I tell you. Smile
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:09 am    Post subject:

Otherwise Curt will have to beat you with a sock full of lenses.
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AnalogRocks
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:12 am    Post subject:

Phoenixed wrote:
Otherwise Curt will have to beat you with a sock full of lenses.


No a sock full of dead digital projector parts

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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:52 am    Post subject:

AnalogRocks wrote:
Phoenixed wrote:
Otherwise Curt will have to beat you with a sock full of lenses.


No a sock full of dead digital projector parts


and THAT will leave a mark! Thumbs Up
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JuzWerkz



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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:28 pm    Post subject:

This discussion reminds me of a sign I saw the other day:

"If I had a nickel for every time you said something stupid, I'd have a sock full of nickels to beat you with!"


cj

BTW, the super-secret code that I'm not telling about worked, and I already think I'm headed toward a better picture than last time. Getting all the lines straight, evenly spaced and converged can certainly be challenging. Right now, there are about 5 lines (cross-coarse) in the red tube that have "bubbles" about four squares wide that are not converged with the straighter green & blue lines, but the rest of the lines seem fairly straight. I know that point convergence can correct this, but considering the smoothness of the distortion, I wondered if there is another adjustment I should make first. I kinda figured point convergence should be the last resort after everything else is as smooth & straight as possible.

I know that I should probably post a picture of this so you can better see what I'm talking about, but I'm at work right now and unable to do so...

cj
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