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adamjnnn



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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:01 am    Post subject: barco cine 7 please help

ok im new to the crt projector i picked up
for free a barco cine 7 projector with 7200 hrs on it is that good.
ok here is my questions hope they makes sense
what type of cable do i need
i want to hook my xbox 360,vcr and dvd player to it. do i need to get a video scaler like the lumagen hdq
how do i control the screen size i have a 92 inch i believe 16:9 screen
how do i calibrate aswell ie what are these cross hairs i need to alighn
lol
sorry about all the dumb questions
as i said im new to this ive always wanted one of these projectors
and i need to buy things for i dont mind just rather
have entry level iteams as i dont want to mess anything up
and the plugs on the back are nothing ive ever seen before
i was expecting rca not odd looking plugs with knockes on them
thank you in advance for the help in advance
and is there anyone close to chilliwack bc
who can teach me about these machines
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Curt Palme
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:35 pm    Post subject:

Ummm, yes, I'm in Langley!

Read this first, page 17 has all the info you need on the connection cables:

http://curtpalme.com/CRTPrimer.shtm

I'll post more later. These machines are professional machines, thus the twist lock BNC connectors. In the pro world, RCA connectors are considered consumer garbage. Wink (which really, they are!)
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adamjnnn



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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: thanks

thanks curt do i need a video scaler to hook all my equipment to it
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:37 pm    Post subject:

No, the Cine 7 is one of the few that will take an analog component input via the R G and B inputs. Select '5' in the input menu or on the remote to enable it. I've got about a dozen 708/Cine 7s here. THe manual is available on the site if you don't have it. It's easy to follow, but you can always call me to come over and I'll spend a few minutes with one going over the functions.

Cheers!
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:53 pm    Post subject:

cool thanx man sorry for all the dumb questions ive just always wanted one of these since i was a kid
so to i get rgb to rca so i can connect all my stuff up to it like xbox vcr blu ray and
cable box
once again sorry for all the dumb questions and for calibration do lighning up the cross hairs
means all colors have to be on top of each other
and do you have the camera for the iris
as i believe it has it installed
but gives error messages
and i looked on the front there is no camera
just the spot where the camera is supposed to be
once again i am sorry for all the questions
i know you probibly a busy guy
but also i hear the best in the business
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adamjnnn



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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:59 pm    Post subject:

also i have a unversal remote someone programed with it do you have an original i think that would be easier to use
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:06 pm    Post subject:

THis set may have come from me originally. Barco had two remote styles and IR codes. THe later ones are pretty hard to find, which is why I always programmed universals. I know some people used to sell preprogrammed remotes on eBay, so it may not have come from me.

Anyway, I only have a couple of later model Barco remotes, and I'm keeping those, sorry! The universal one should work fine, or use the keypad on the projector... if it still works. They gum up, as do the remotes themselves. That's another reason to switch to the universals.

Sorry, didn't see your other post before I answered.

Get three BNC to RCA adapters so you can plug the RCAs right in. The fact that you have errors (I2R errors?) means there's a fault in the unit. Can you post what I2R errors you're getting? if you're getting a bunch on the screen, but you're getting the message displayed on the screen itself, then it's most likely a bad convergence board. Very common problem on these units. If it's one or two error messges, post what they are, and I can look them up. Some function(s) in the set won't work with I2R errors.

Before you spend any money, pull the lenses off the front of the set, and post a pix of the tube faces. They could be in great shape, or could be toast. 1 more post by you, and you can post pix here. No sense in spending money on the set to fix it if the tubes are toast. I want a pix that looks something like the tubes on this chart:

http://curtpalme.com/TubeCondition_RatingChart.shtm

Fire away with any questions, that's what we're here for! Smile

BTW, tubes aren't cheap new ($650 each!), but I did just strip down a 708 that has near perfect tubes in it, which I might sell at a bargain price. ...
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adamjnnn



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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:22 pm    Post subject:

ok will do are the lenses easy to pull off ill post a pic tonight
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adamjnnn



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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:48 am    Post subject:

oh i forgot to mention this projector
is out of a theature in coquitlam that shut down
some small mom and pop theature
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:52 am    Post subject:

Yup, long straightblade screwdriver to undo those long plastic screw thingies that hold the lenses on.

Doesn't ring a bell, probably not my projector then. It is indeed amazing how many CRTs were and are still out there. My best estimation is that I've gone through about 4000-5000 in the last 15 years personally, not to mention the countless board I've repaired of sets I've never seen. I'm sure there's 100 or so just in the lower mainland that I don't know about that are still running.
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adamjnnn



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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:57 am    Post subject:

i know its amazing i got a laserdisc player i want to hook up to it to
now to find some where that sells laser discs lol
once again thank you so so much for all your answers ill
post pics tonight i dont get off work till ten tonight i looked inside yesterday
and for warm up it displays a pure white picture
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:05 am    Post subject:

You're in good shape if everything is pure white. But you'd be surprised how non white it actually is if your tubes are worn.

If you can find one of the rare laserdisc players that puts out a component signal (Pioneer?), then get a line doubler or scaler (I might still have something kicking around for cheap) to upscale the 480i of the laserdisc. I think a rare one or two did 480p. Analogrocks here might know, or Tinman might know as well. They are both big analog freaks. Smile
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:15 am    Post subject:

i got a pioneer ld player thats flips sides by itself to
il post the pics to be sure also the error messages i get with the auto convergence and iris
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:19 am    Post subject:

Frankly I've never used the IRIS on any Barco I've had here. Wink Ignore that, I don't think it's throwing the errors anyway. You need a perfectly dark room for it to work (same with the E'home projectors), any stray light will throw them off.
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adamjnnn



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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:21 am    Post subject:

really huh never knew that ill post everthing
curt ur awsome bro thanx for all the help
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adamjnnn



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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:10 am    Post subject:

ok here is the pics of the tube
hope fully they will last a little while cant really afford
new ones at the moment if they wont last
i may have to save awhile till i can afford to buy some

the guy who gave me the projector said the picture still looked good it was free for me lol
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:16 am    Post subject:

i was was wrong it is a data 708 not to sure if that still a cine 7
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 8:43 pm    Post subject:

hopefully the tubes will last i little bit longer
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