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HaydnG90
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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It was my understanding from Mikes posts here that the technical details were going to be transferred to Craig and he was going to handle the modification of owners BA boards. There may be some delay as they were working on a few additional tweaks to address streaking (if thats the correct description) in high contrast images. The screenshots I've seen on AVS appear to show these problems have been fixed.
Maybe Craig or Mike can update us on the future availability of these mods.
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mp20748
Joined: 12 Sep 2006
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Location: Maryland
TV/Projector: 9500LC Ultra / Super 02 and 03 VIM
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| HaydnG90 wrote: | It was my understanding from Mikes posts here that the technical details were going to be transferred to Craig and he was going to handle the modification of owners BA boards. There may be some delay as they were working on a few additional tweaks to address streaking (if thats the correct description) in high contrast images. The screenshots I've seen on AVS appear to show these problems have been fixed.
Maybe Craig or Mike can update us on the future availability of these mods. |
That was delayed by me, but not on purpose (I had to also prepare the G90 and get it ready to ship). I spoke to Craig last week and will be moving forward with this. I'm sending him what he needs my very next shipment going out.
I'll then be completely out of the picture on this..
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mp20748
Joined: 12 Sep 2006
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Location: Maryland
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| HaydnG90 wrote: | There may be some delay as they were working on a few additional tweaks to address streaking (if thats the correct description) in high contrast images. The screenshots I've seen on AVS appear to show these problems have been fixed.
Maybe Craig or Mike can update us on the future availability of these mods. |
This too is being sent to Craig. he also sent me the test patterns to burn for this, and as the shots show on AVS, I've not been able to duplicate the streaking on my screen. Maybe Craig will find otherwise, but I've tried everything to make it show up.
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jbmeyer13
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Mike,
With the completion of these G90 mods are you going to take down your Marquee in favor of the G90? If these mods are able to vastly improve the video chain performance and bring it on par with the Marquee then it would be a real game changer.
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CIR Engineering
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| kal wrote: | To the original poster:
Who's setting up the machine for you? If not set up correctly, your whole question of which is better is a moot point.
I've seen 7" and 8" middle of the road machines that were properly set up look considerably better than high end 9" machines where the person who set it up had no idea what they were doing.
If I were you I'd go for which ever machine the person setting it up is best at and most experienced at. That's more important.
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Exactly!
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kabuby77
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| mp20748 wrote: | | I've not been able to duplicate the streaking on my screen. ... |
I see streaking with high speed rising edges, but only with internal moome the external is ok (ifb12A is 300MHz BW)
What 's the problem with G90 BA bords?
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Spanky Ham
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I was going to stay out of this, but I will throw my two cents in as well. I set up and did a quick test of one of my 909s. It looked pretty sharp and was able to resolve 2048x1536 in the corner. I have only done a quick test on the G90, but it looked pretty sharp as well. I didn't test multiple resolutions, so I can't comment on that. Having both, if you asked me which one I would keep I couldn't say. One thing I wanted to do is get a place where I could play with them and do some good testing on them. Probably the biggest difference is price. The G90s are going for pretty good prices. The 909s are more expensive and I wouldn't let any of mine go for under $3k unless it was Curt (I know you still have your eye on them ). Honestly it comes down for which brand you are a FANBOY for.
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HaydnG90
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If I had your quandary I think I'd be in similar frame of mind. Might come down to which case I liked best. Now if it was Cine 9... no contest.
Isn't the colorimetry, especially on red really poor without the colored C-element on the 909. My 808S red was horrible, more like orange.
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Spanky Ham
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Well they are unfortunately not set up. If the 909 was set up, then I would snag the c-element from the G90. Also, if I could do some testing, then I would try to see if I could paint the c-elements.
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JayAllan
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A lot of great information here! Thanks guys  I need to digest all this still but it looks like I should go with the G90 for my setup All around that seems to be the best overall solution -unless I can get a 909 for $3000
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JayAllan
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| mp20748 wrote: | | They all have strengths and weaknesses. None is more superior than the other, though one or two may have a few extra things to admire, but if they were all equally weighted, none would be better than the other. |
Where can i get more info on MODS for the g90 ?
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JayAllan
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| ecrabb wrote: | | JayAllan wrote: | | So I think a 9 inch CRT is my best bet. I am used to Sony and I love their menu systems. But the 1292 seems like it will not really resolve 1080p well. In a perfect world I would like to watch 1080p on an 8-10 foot wide 16/9 screen from about 20 feet away. |
Wow, 20 feet from an 8-foot wide screen? If you have excellent vision, you'll barely be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, let alone see the difference between a G90 and a lesser machine.
Besides the screen size and brightness issue with a single CRT projector even on a 10-foot screen, I wouldn't want to sit 20 feet away from a screen unless it was 16-17-feet wide. I'm with Cliff when he says....
| overclkr wrote: | | As far as viewing from 20ft, I personally find one screenwidth seating distance for CRT is optimal. |
Does your viewing distance really have to be so long?
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I am actually 14 ft from the screen and I can move closer for sure! Thanks for that info.
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mp20748
Joined: 12 Sep 2006
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| JayAllan wrote: | | mp20748 wrote: | | They all have strengths and weaknesses. None is more superior than the other, though one or two may have a few extra things to admire, but if they were all equally weighted, none would be better than the other. |
Where can i get more info on MODS for the g90 ? |
I'm sending them to Craig as I wrap up getting everything G90 shipped out of here. My first shipment is going out Monday, it will contain the G90 Mods. They're already boxed and ready to go!
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contemplationaveugle
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For information, I installed on my G90 a full set of lug with a Green markee 9500 C-element. I also installed HQF 900.
I have the HDMI moome V2 with radiance XS +.
I am in 1920x817p96 and after calibration, I measured the contrast on / off at 1 280 000:1 with the 100 IRE test pattern window (at 1 meter distance I mesured 0.001 to 0 IRE and 1280 lux to 100 IRE window).
I'm pretty happy with the sharpness, I still have to work on the red tube.
Cedric
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cmjohnson
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FYI, the Marquee chassis has (had) the highest MTBF (Mean Time Between Failures) rating in the industry, among all CRT projectors that were MTBF rated. (All that would be acceptable for military or simulation customers)
While Marquee failures aren't unknown in the home theater market, remember that MOST Marquees are retired from commerical or military service and have quite a lot of hours on them. 25,000, 40,000, even 50,000 hours used units aren't exactly uncommon, yet even then they're pretty reliable.
Comparing new Marquees (back in the day) to all other new CRT projectors, I think you'd find that the Marquee does work out to be the most reliable chassis.
CJ
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mp20748
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Craig is back in town from another one of his globe-trotting adventures. So the G90 board goes out tomorrow.
I took a quick shot of it in the G90, showing how well it looks even with the projector out of convergence. It was a quick and simple test once more to make sure it's OK for sending out.
The shots do nothing for what's seen on the screen.
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HaydnG90
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Spectacular
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kabuby77
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Can you make a summary of improvements?
What tests will you do?
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mp20748
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| kabuby77 wrote: | Can you make a summary of improvements?
What tests will you do? |
You're almost guaranteed that with Craig. He almost always quantify everything he does to show what results should be expected.
But we'll have to wait and see what happens. I also have some data on the results myself.
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