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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| mp20748 wrote: | | barclay66 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | Anyone know when the tilt option on top and bottom in the geometry is addet..? its in the 5.0 and not in the 4.2. |
Hello Curt,
The menus and options are dynamic on the Marquee. They only show up if You have the required boards mounted. Main trigger is the Ultra FGM board. So, even software versions below V5.0 may be 'ultra capable' but You won't see it unless the CLM recognizes the presence of the corresponding boards...
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Well my ultra clm with 5.0 displays the options when entering geomerty, but no action come out of adjusting when a non ultra focus board is instaled. not even the normal functions, i think it might be so with 4.2, it looks like it just adapts to the hardware, but it dont look so with the 5.0
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Tim in Phoenix
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Yes
For example you will not see all of the Acon menu stuff if the Acon board is not installed.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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i just tested.. The problem is if there is a ultra focus board, but the vonvergence board is not ultra, with a ultra controle board, as soon i put the non ultra focus board everything worked normal like a non ultra with the ultra controle board.
Its getting dark now, so in 30 min ill find my probe and make a gray scale, but so far it looks good, i vdont think i would have much problems living with a 8500AC ultra.
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barclay66
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
Just as I wrote before. The main trigger is the FGM. As soon as it's there, the software thinks it can do Ultra. But without the additional wiring on the CVA, the VDM, the Deflection Processor Board and the right Upper Mother board thre is no real control...
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barclay66
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mp20748
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TV/Projector: 9500LC Ultra / Super 02 and 03 VIM
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| Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| barclay66 wrote: | Hi,
Just as I wrote before. The main trigger is the FGM. As soon as it's there, the software thinks it can do Ultra. But without the additional wiring on the CVA, the VDM, the Deflection Processor Board and the right Upper Mother board thre is no real control...
Regards,
barclay66 |
yep
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Just got back on track with my Marquee last night, had a very nice movie experience, far the sharpest brightest, most punchy dynamic picture i have seen to date.
I still miss a lot of focus work, and calibration.
Screenshot 1:1 pattern, has a bit of overshoot on the vertical lines, and even i did convergence 5 min before taking the shot it drifted off.
It had not finished heating up.
The level on vertical and horizontal box dont match perfect, but i think its the test i have done having the darkest between the lines in both directions.
Look like ill soon have all the parts needet to finish this project, and be able to service it for a lifetime.
Standard LCP tubes with HD10E lenses
Running 1080P 72hz 180Mhz.
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thewolfman
Joined: 28 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | Just got back on track with my Marquee last night, had a very nice movie experience, far the sharpest brightest, most punchy dynamic picture i have seen to date.
I still miss a lot of focus work, and calibration.
Screenshot 1:1 pattern, has a bit of overshoot on the vertical lines, and even i did convergence 5 min before taking the shot it drifted off.
It had not finished heating up.
The level on vertical and horizontal box dont match perfect, but i think its the test i have done having the darkest between the lines in both directions.
Look like ill soon have all the parts needet to finish this project, and be able to service it for a lifetime.
Standard LCP tubes with HD10E lenses
Running 1080P 72hz 180Mhz. |
Are you talking about the modded neck boards and some other stuff you been waiting for? If so, my stuff shouldn't be so far away being finished either. But then of course, that wont do me any good as long as I have this ridiculously blurry blue tube. I should get myself a second pj like you said to work things out.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| thewolfman wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Just got back on track with my Marquee last night, had a very nice movie experience, far the sharpest brightest, most punchy dynamic picture i have seen to date.
I still miss a lot of focus work, and calibration.
Screenshot 1:1 pattern, has a bit of overshoot on the vertical lines, and even i did convergence 5 min before taking the shot it drifted off.
It had not finished heating up.
The level on vertical and horizontal box dont match perfect, but i think its the test i have done having the darkest between the lines in both directions.
Look like ill soon have all the parts needet to finish this project, and be able to service it for a lifetime.
Standard LCP tubes with HD10E lenses
Running 1080P 72hz 180Mhz. |
Are you talking about the modded neck boards and some other stuff you been waiting for? If so, my stuff shouldn't be so far away being finished either. But then of course, that wont do me any good as long as I have this ridiculously blurry blue tube. I should get myself a second pj like you said to work things out. |
You can buy a set of RGB tubes NIB NOS from Curt these days.
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thewolfman
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Just got back on track with my Marquee last night, had a very nice movie experience, far the sharpest brightest, most punchy dynamic picture i have seen to date.
I still miss a lot of focus work, and calibration.
Screenshot 1:1 pattern, has a bit of overshoot on the vertical lines, and even i did convergence 5 min before taking the shot it drifted off.
It had not finished heating up.
The level on vertical and horizontal box dont match perfect, but i think its the test i have done having the darkest between the lines in both directions.
Look like ill soon have all the parts needet to finish this project, and be able to service it for a lifetime.
Standard LCP tubes with HD10E lenses
Running 1080P 72hz 180Mhz. |
Are you talking about the modded neck boards and some other stuff you been waiting for? If so, my stuff shouldn't be so far away being finished either. But then of course, that wont do me any good as long as I have this ridiculously blurry blue tube. I should get myself a second pj like you said to work things out. |
You can buy a set of RGB tubes NIB NOS from Curt these days. |
That's good indeed. Hopefully they will last a while so I can get a new red tube some day. But I don't think there's anything wrong with the one I have, but I should get one all the same to make me feel good. Use the one I have for a spare..
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| thewolfman wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Just got back on track with my Marquee last night, had a very nice movie experience, far the sharpest brightest, most punchy dynamic picture i have seen to date.
I still miss a lot of focus work, and calibration.
Screenshot 1:1 pattern, has a bit of overshoot on the vertical lines, and even i did convergence 5 min before taking the shot it drifted off.
It had not finished heating up.
The level on vertical and horizontal box dont match perfect, but i think its the test i have done having the darkest between the lines in both directions.
Look like ill soon have all the parts needet to finish this project, and be able to service it for a lifetime.
Standard LCP tubes with HD10E lenses
Running 1080P 72hz 180Mhz. |
Are you talking about the modded neck boards and some other stuff you been waiting for? If so, my stuff shouldn't be so far away being finished either. But then of course, that wont do me any good as long as I have this ridiculously blurry blue tube. I should get myself a second pj like you said to work things out. |
You can buy a set of RGB tubes NIB NOS from Curt these days. |
That's good indeed. Hopefully they will last a while so I can get a new red tube some day. But I don't think there's anything wrong with the one I have, but I should get one all the same to make me feel good. Use the one I have for a spare.. |
The only way to get a blue tube these days seems to be buying a full set of tubes, and its about the same price as if you buy a blue tube alone from someone else, and you will have a spare red and green, i have ordered 3 set. 
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thewolfman
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | thewolfman wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | Just got back on track with my Marquee last night, had a very nice movie experience, far the sharpest brightest, most punchy dynamic picture i have seen to date.
I still miss a lot of focus work, and calibration.
Screenshot 1:1 pattern, has a bit of overshoot on the vertical lines, and even i did convergence 5 min before taking the shot it drifted off.
It had not finished heating up.
The level on vertical and horizontal box dont match perfect, but i think its the test i have done having the darkest between the lines in both directions.
Look like ill soon have all the parts needet to finish this project, and be able to service it for a lifetime.
Standard LCP tubes with HD10E lenses
Running 1080P 72hz 180Mhz. |
Are you talking about the modded neck boards and some other stuff you been waiting for? If so, my stuff shouldn't be so far away being finished either. But then of course, that wont do me any good as long as I have this ridiculously blurry blue tube. I should get myself a second pj like you said to work things out. |
You can buy a set of RGB tubes NIB NOS from Curt these days. |
That's good indeed. Hopefully they will last a while so I can get a new red tube some day. But I don't think there's anything wrong with the one I have, but I should get one all the same to make me feel good. Use the one I have for a spare.. |
The only way to get a blue tube these days seems to be buying a full set of tubes, and its about the same price as if you buy a blue tube alone from someone else, and you will have a spare red and green, i have ordered 3 set. |
Jesus, 9 tubes! That should do it for a life time.. cool!  The shipping must be insane though even for someone with cash on their hands.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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playing a bit with the neck boards, and i made a good color balance to the resolution pattern.
The geometry thing you see in my shots is my new camera lens, its quite sh*tty for this kind of pictures. its a Pentax 18-270mm
Need to get a 18-55 lens.
Still running 180Mhz
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jbmeyer13
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Looking good Kurt!
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| jbmeyer13 wrote: | | Looking good Kurt! |
If i could only find out how to make a screen shot where i can display what i see when watching a movie, i feel its worth to share.
And i think i can claim that this modified Marquee, will make every SONY G90 modified or not look like its old and tired..
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thewolfman
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | jbmeyer13 wrote: | | Looking good Kurt! |
If i could only find out how to make a screen shot where i can display what i see when watching a movie, i feel its worth to share.
And i think i can claim that this modified Marquee, will make every SONY G90 modified or not look like its old and tired.. |
What boards are you using for this? Didn't you just have stock neck boards + a modded VIM03 + moome V3? That's what I use to have until I had to send all of it back because the items didn't work well with my computer for some reason. I'm waiting for my replacement VIM03 + filter-modded moome V3 and the latest neck boards. I'm very interested to see how all that will come to play with my new lenses that I have now because I didn't have them before when I had the stuff here. It should be a substantial up-grade and one that I'm looking forward to see. Up until now I only used stock neck boards and never seen what modded once can do.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| thewolfman wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | jbmeyer13 wrote: | | Looking good Kurt! |
If i could only find out how to make a screen shot where i can display what i see when watching a movie, i feel its worth to share.
And i think i can claim that this modified Marquee, will make every SONY G90 modified or not look like its old and tired.. |
What boards are you using for this? Didn't you just have stock neck boards + a modded VIM03 + moome V3? That's what I use to have until I had to send all of it back because the items didn't work well with my computer for some reason. I'm waiting for my replacement VIM03 + filter-modded moome V3 and the latest neck boards. I'm very interested to see how all that will come to play with my new lenses that I have now because I didn't have them before when I had the stuff here. It should be a substantial up-grade and one that I'm looking forward to see. |
Im using my moddet 03VIM, still waiting to get my 03VIM with mini boards.
And a set of moddet neckboards and a moddet moome card.
Other than that its a quite standard machine with LCP tubes and the HD10E lenses its born with.
I did a very fast test on my G90 with the GT17 VS. HD10F lenses, and was not able to detect any difference, a more serious test will have to come later, but im quite sure that the lenses dont hold much of the improvement.
One of the very important parts is the source, and i dont want to live without my Radiance and OPPO player.
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jbmeyer13
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: |
One of the very important parts is the source, and i dont want to live without my Radiance and OPPO player. |
I'm thinking that your Radiance is a big part of this equation and why you see such good results with horizontal resolving. I've reached the limit of my set up until I score a Radiance +
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| jbmeyer13 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: |
One of the very important parts is the source, and i dont want to live without my Radiance and OPPO player. |
I'm thinking that your Radiance is a big part of this equation and why you see such good results with horizontal resolving. I've reached the limit of my set up until I score a Radiance + |
I think most digital source should be able to do the resolution pattern right, but 72hz and how blu ray movies quality is, ill blame my source forthat.
If you cant do the 1:1 pattern right, a radiance and oppo wont help you, its much about understanding the mods and play with it and get the focus and setup done right.
One thing is sure, its not a plug and play setup.
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jbmeyer13
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| stridsvognen wrote: | | jbmeyer13 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: |
One of the very important parts is the source, and i dont want to live without my Radiance and OPPO player. |
I'm thinking that your Radiance is a big part of this equation and why you see such good results with horizontal resolving. I've reached the limit of my set up until I score a Radiance + |
I think any digital source should be able to do the resolution pattern right, but 72hz and how blu ray movies quality is, ill blame my source forthat.
If you cant do the 1:1 pattern right, a radiance and oppo wont help you, its much about understanding the mods and play with it and get the focus and setup done right.
One thing is sure, its not a plug and play setup. |
The 1:1 is a digital domain issue. I have razor sharp focus and astig but do not have a perfectly uniform horizontal box. This is evident looking on the tube face (so this is not driven by optics). Having said that, I have yet to identify the bottleneck in the chain. In theory one would think that if the display can resolve higher BW resolutions then there should be no issue with lower BW ones. In my case, dropping from 1080p/60 down to 800p/72 yielded even less uniformity when the BW is actually lower.
I have played with the mods and unfortunately swapping neck cards from one tube to the other made absolutely no difference in the end result. Hopefully, Mike will send me the filters and then we can see if that makes any difference.
By any chance did you try the Moome card that exhibited the blooming on the G90 in your Marquee? I think Nash told me they are compatible. Would be interesting to see if that has any effect.
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stridsvognen
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| jbmeyer13 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: | | jbmeyer13 wrote: | | stridsvognen wrote: |
One of the very important parts is the source, and i dont want to live without my Radiance and OPPO player. |
I'm thinking that your Radiance is a big part of this equation and why you see such good results with horizontal resolving. I've reached the limit of my set up until I score a Radiance + |
I think any digital source should be able to do the resolution pattern right, but 72hz and how blu ray movies quality is, ill blame my source forthat.
If you cant do the 1:1 pattern right, a radiance and oppo wont help you, its much about understanding the mods and play with it and get the focus and setup done right.
One thing is sure, its not a plug and play setup. |
The 1:1 is a digital domain issue. I have razor sharp focus and astig but do not have a perfectly uniform horizontal box. This is evident looking on the tube face (so this is not driven by optics). Having said that, I have yet to identify the bottleneck in the chain. In theory one would think that if the display can resolve higher BW resolutions then there should be no issue with lower BW ones. In my case, dropping from 1080p/60 down to 800p/72 yielded even less uniformity when the BW is actually lower.
I have played with the mods and unfortunately swapping neck cards from one tube to the other made absolutely no difference in the end result. Hopefully, Mike will send me the filters and then we can see if that makes any difference.
By any chance did you try the Moome card that exhibited the blooming on the G90 in your Marquee? I think Nash told me they are compatible. Would be interesting to see if that has any effect. |
Interesting about the moome cards, can anyone confirm that a sony card will work in the marquee.?
If so ill be happy to try it out, both of them.
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